"2000 Mules" movie

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SomeDisciple

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#21
https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/mo-brooks-clashes-with-fox-news-sandra-smith-over-election/
At least 2000 Mules actually got some coverage on FOX, even if it was forced. Y'know the way that they joined the chorus on "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE..." it's so tragic.

"it's been debunked on Reuters"

HERE IS WHAT REUTERS SAYS
"Reuters Fact Check examined the main claims presented in the film and did not find any concrete evidence definitively showing proof of fraud."
LYING WITH THE TRUTH "it is written, it is written!!!" Says Satan. You could say there is "no concrete evidence definitively showing proof" OF VIRTUALLY ANYTHING.

People should at least be aware of what evidence exists and evaluate it's merits with their own scrutiny, instead of being told "NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG."
 

ZNP

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https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/mo-brooks-clashes-with-fox-news-sandra-smith-over-election/
At least 2000 Mules actually got some coverage on FOX, even if it was forced. Y'know the way that they joined the chorus on "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE..." it's so tragic.

"it's been debunked on Reuters"

HERE IS WHAT REUTERS SAYS
"Reuters Fact Check examined the main claims presented in the film and did not find any concrete evidence definitively showing proof of fraud."
LYING WITH THE TRUTH "it is written, it is written!!!" Says Satan. You could say there is "no concrete evidence definitively showing proof" OF VIRTUALLY ANYTHING.

People should at least be aware of what evidence exists and evaluate it's merits with their own scrutiny, instead of being told "NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG."
I watched the movie and I didn't see any concrete evidence of fraud either, I saw videotape evidence, and geotracking evidence, but no concrete was presented as evidence. (why does Reuters think that someone used concrete to steal the election?)
 

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What makes me not believe the election was rigged is:

1. The number of Trump sychophants, judges, and audits telling him he has no case

2. If the dems were salting the votes, you would have seen more dem congressmen win.
 

ZNP

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What makes me not believe the election was rigged is:

1. The number of Trump sychophants, judges, and audits telling him he has no case
Cowards will always be cowards.

2. If the dems were salting the votes, you would have seen more dem congressmen win.
I thought about that then it occurred to me, if they had stolen the election from more people then more people would have joined the call that it was stolen. They don't care Democrat or Republican, they are just concerned "bought or not bought" and it is quite clear that they have plenty of Republicans that are fully bought that it doesn't matter if more didn't win. However, it is a huge red flag that Biden won with a whole bunch of ballots that were only for Biden and not for any other democrats. It is a huge red flag that the 20+ locations that usually predict the winner all went for Trump (except for 1). It is a huge red flag that places like Detroit had 100% turnout.

You have 133 million registered voters, 74 million voted for Trump. So how does Biden get 81 million?

Ask yourself this, why is Trump 100-6 on endorsements? Do people really see him as a poor loser whining about losing, or do they see him as someone they can trust to stand against this corrupt government?

If Biden got 81 million votes then why wouldn't every democrat in the country want his endorsement? Obama only got 69 million and everyone wanted his endorsement.
 

SomeDisciple

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https://www.johnlocke.org/2000-mules-the-north-carolina-connection/

What I don't understand is why these people would point out the usefulness of 2000 Mules and then say this...

(Part of an article written by "director of public integrity" of this John Locke foundation)

Absentee ballot fraud is difficult for election officials to detect. When they manage to detect it and report it to law enforcement, the fraud is rarely investigated much less prosecuted. So, people expecting what is shown in “2000 Mules” to result in criminal convictions will likely be disappointed.
The geolocation data by itself does not prove that the alleged mules used those drop boxes. At least some of those suspected mules could have just stopped near them as part of their regular routines. The sheer volume and variety of those stops near ballot drop boxes stretch credulity and raise suspicion, but suspicion alone is insufficient for prosecutions.
The ties between the timing of geolocated visits to ballot drop boxes and the video footage of people placing ballots in those drop boxes are not strong enough to establish firmly that the people in the videos were definitively the mules detected through geolocation. A smoking gun would have been the videos conclusively synched with geolocation data showing the same people depositing ballots in multiple drop boxes. The film does not have that.

The film also does not provide any information on the other half of the ballot trafficking system: getting the ballots from voters.

SERIOUSLY? DID THEY EVEN WATCH THE MOVIE?

There are a lot of stupid articles against 2000 Mules, but here it looks like people SUPPORTING ELECTION REVIEW are just repeating the stupid things that are said in those stupid articles instead of actually WATCHING THE MOVIE. WHY?

Point 1 in RED: TRUE THE VOTE, the investigative organization in 2000 Mules has already done this thing with RESULTS.

Point 2 in RED: ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! MULTIPLE BALLOT BOXES ACROSS MULTIPLE COUNTIES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT! GET OUT!
PLUS, THEY IDENTIFIED CHANGES IN PATTERN OF LIFE. IT WAS NOT THEIR "REGULAR ROUTINE".

Point 3 in RED: Wrong. Yes, they did, explain several ways how ballots were gotten from voters. No there was not a lot of evidence presented- but there was plenty of information, and some minor evidence.

Why someone in an non-partisan election integrity organization would repeat the nonsensical ramblings of liberal media- I just don't get it.
 

JTB

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Cowards will always be cowards..
Or maybe despite the pressure to buy into a deception, there will always be some with the testicular fortitude to say the emperor has no clothes

I thought about that then it occurred to me, if they had stolen the election from more people then more people would have joined the call that it was stolen. They don't care Democrat or Republican, they are just concerned "bought or not bought" and it is quite clear that they have plenty of Republicans that are fully bought that it doesn't matter if more didn't win. However, it is a huge red flag that Biden won with a whole bunch of ballots that were only for Biden and not for any other democrats. It is a huge red flag that the 20+ locations that usually predict the winner all went for Trump (except for 1). It is a huge red flag that places like Detroit had 100% turnout.
To put a president in place without giving him the support he needs in congress to get his agenda thru seems a bit useless to me. Why go thru all the trouble just to see him stonewalled there?
 

ZNP

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Or maybe despite the pressure to buy into a deception, there will always be some with the testicular fortitude to say the emperor has no clothes
Exactly. This is what my thread on Biden being the most humble president is all about. Nothing more humble than standing up their naked for the whole world to see.


To put a president in place without giving him the support he needs in congress to get his agenda thru seems a bit useless to me. Why go thru all the trouble just to see him stonewalled there?
Yep that is what they told Mike Tyson, but he didn't listen. Told that to Michael Jordan but he didn't listen. Told it to Tom Brady but he didn't listen. They told that to Patton in WWII and he didn't listen. Hence the saying if you want to be the king you have to defeat the king. Jesus is the king and we are His people and He will lead us in victory over these sad sacks and pathetic excuses for leaders.
 

ZNP

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...cd131a-e2a5-11ec-ae64-6b23e5155b62_story.html

Of course this was an isolated incident. There's still absolutely NO EVIDENCE of voter fraud in the 2020 Election!
No one says that there was no evidence of voter fraud, what they say and what everyone for the most part agrees is that there was no "widespread" voter fraud.

Has anyone come out with evidence that the election was stolen in 26 states? No, they only have evidence in about 8-10 states. That isn't "widespread".

Also is anyone asserting that 51% of the votes were fraudulent? No, at most they are claiming that 5-6% are fraudulent. Again that is not what they mean by "widespread".
 

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Exactly. This is what my thread on Biden being the most humble president is all about. Nothing more humble than standing up their naked for the whole world to see.
Biden is a real winner.
He just Gave Zelenskyy "medium range missiles" that can Hit Russian Cities.

If that happens, then Putin will not blame Zelenskyy, nor should he.
He will retaliate against the USA or Nato Countries, and then you have a real world war and not this propaganda world war that you've been led to believe by the ever lying Media.

Bidens "reason" for giving Zelensky's army rockets and a launcher that can HIT RUSSIAN CITIES>' ??

Ready to hear it ?????

"" he told us he wont use them to try to destroy a Russian city".

So, yeah., that a case of brilliance that Biden has up there between his ears.
No doubt about it.
 

ZNP

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Biden is a real winner.
He just Gave Zelenskyy "medium range missiles" that can Hit Russian Cities.

If that happens, then Putin will not blame Zelenskyy, nor should he.
He will retaliate against the USA or Nato Countries, and then you have a real world war and not this propaganda world war that you've been led to believe by the ever lying Media.

Bidens "reason" for giving Zelensky's army rockets and a launcher that can HIT RUSSIAN CITIES>' ??

Ready to hear it ?????

"" he told us he wont use them to try to destroy a Russian city".

So, yeah., that a case of brilliance that Biden has up there between his ears.
No doubt about it.
What would Zelensky have to gain in hitting a Russian city. (I mean other than the obvious, if Russia strikes the US and brings the US into the war maybe the US destroys Russia and Zelensky can stay in power in Ukraine and not get arrested and killed by the Russians.)

I wouldn't be surprised if all this plays out in the next few days. But I wouldn't worry, Biden has left Washington DC so if they do hit the capitol he won't be there and they have underground tunnels and bunkers for the president so he'll be fine. Also I heard a rumor that one of the reasons for the food shortages is that they have been stocking up in these tunnels and that includes baby formula.
 

SomeDisciple

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Also is anyone asserting that 51% of the votes were fraudulent? No, at most they are claiming that 5-6% are fraudulent. Again that is not what they mean by "widespread"
Oops, my bad! Even if it was 51%, with the electoral college that's not enough for absolute control over the election. We have to wait until there is 2/3 supermajority-fraud before we say it's "widespread".

When they insist, "no widespread fraud", they often qualify it by saying that there wasn't enough to affect election results. But, I suppose they could even continue to say "no evidence of widespread fraud" even if there was discovered sufficient fraud and the election was overturned. That's what they would say "There was never any evidence of widespread fraud".
 

ZNP

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Oops, my bad! Even if it was 51%, with the electoral college that's not enough for absolute control over the election. We have to wait until there is 2/3 supermajority-fraud before we say it's "widespread".

When they insist, "no widespread fraud", they often qualify it by saying that there wasn't enough to affect election results. But, I suppose they could even continue to say "no evidence of widespread fraud" even if there was discovered sufficient fraud and the election was overturned. That's what they would say "There was never any evidence of widespread fraud".
Yes, if you understand the math you realize that there might be 10 states that are "swing" states. So right off the bat, we can ignore 80% of the states. Then in these swing states the election will be decided by 1% of the vote, so we can again ignore 80% of the votes on these ten states. Do the math and 94% of votes are legit and the election can be as fraudulent as it gets.

So then they say that the election is overwhelmingly legit, and only a very small fraction of the votes are fraudulent, that is true. 80% of the states and 96% of the total votes.

But then what was really special about this 2020 election, they only switched the votes for Biden. If there are 10 candidates for various posts and you are only changing the votes for 1 of them then even the fraudulent ballots are 90% legit. Therefore you can argue that 99.6% of the votes were legit. Since 0.4% of the votes is really irrelevant there you go. This is how you lie with numbers.

One thing they did quite well was to realize that Americans have a sense of fairness. So if Trump gets 75 million votes they could probably have Biden get the majority of electoral votes with 69 million votes. But then even though technically Biden won everyone in the country would know the majority voted for Trump. So the machines were used to to change that so even if Biden lost a state and hence those fraudulent votes were meaningless for electoral votes, yet they were important for appearance.

The problem with all this was that Trump got 75 million votes, so to compensate they gave Biden 81 million even though we don't have 150 million registered voters in this country. But don't worry, Americans are terrible at math.
 

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Facts Matter (June 6): 2 Days After ‘2000 Mules’ Presentation, Former Mayor Pleads Guilty to Ballot Harvesting in AZ
https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts...uilty-to-ballot-harvesting-in-az_4515720.html

While the Washington Post reports that Greg Phillips has "admitted that the data in 2000 Mules is fake" and that it "can't prove" election fraud...

Don't be derailed by reports that Dinesh D'souza lied about his movie instigating this. Maybe it didn't instigate it- but they are definitely a lot more involved than the media would have you believe.
 

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https://www.tucsonsentinel.com/loca...m-follow-voters-combat-unproven-ballot-mules/

THIS! RIGHT HERE! This is kind of what I was talking about in another thread about WE THE PEOPLE- knowing the limitations of government in surveilling the election, because it's "voter suppression" when they do that... their should have been an organized civilian effort- a volunteer militia of sorts- to do surveillance of the boxes... and maybe even some recon of people that are suspected of being involved in the cheating.

Seriously... if the states and counties are going to mysteriously have their surveillance footage of boxes disappear... THEY ARE SLEEPING ON WATCH, OR WORSE. Someone HAS TO DO THIS. IT CANNOT JUST BE LEFT UNDONE.
 
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It seems like everywhere I turn, there is abuse of authority. And there is very little one can do about it. Except get censored. Whatever.
 

ZNP

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It seems like everywhere I turn, there is abuse of authority. And there is very little one can do about it. Except get censored. Whatever.
We can pray. We can praise the Lord. We can read the word and be amazed that the Lord told us all these things would take place. We can look up as we see the day approaching. We can repent and wash away our sins in the blood of Jesus. We can put our trust in the Lord. We can preach the gospel that we have a savior and His name is Jesus. We can see that the fields are white with fear and are open to confessing, repenting and becoming immersed into the triune God.
 

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It seems like everywhere I turn, there is abuse of authority. And there is very little one can do about it. Except get censored. Whatever.
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Did you vote to borrow 40 Billion dollars from the Chinese, to fund and ARM Zelenskyy's ..... "worldwar with Putin"?

Did you vote to determine that the Ukraine's issue with Putin, is a 'world war"?

Putin went into the Ukraine, because the Nazi Azov Ukraine Battalions have killed over 12,000 RUSSIANS, in "DONBAS", which is a stated independent area, inside the Ukraine, that Zelensky has for a fews years said the Ukraine will recognize
He lied, as liars do that..
He kept killing them, and Putin decided to make Him stop.
Thats one reason, for this "war".
Did you vote to not learn about this in any worldwide media that has hidden this fact and a few others, for about 4 months?

Also, starting with the Obama administration.. and continuing with Biden's, and the Ukraine and Nato, have been planning on invading The Crimea to "take it back from Russia".
This was going to happen this year, and Putin found out, and that is another reason he went into the Ukraine.
To stop THEM.
The worldwide News Media has hidden this from you......... did you vote for that?

The USA funded over 19 BIO LABS, inside the Ukraine, capable of creating chemical weapons... and perhaps VIRUSES.
This was recently discovered and debated in the US SENATE.
Putin went in to the Ukraine to destroy these Chemical labs.
The worldwide media, hid this from you.. Did you vote for that?

The USA, from the Obama period till Feb 2022, , was building MORE Nato bases inside the Ukraine that is very close to RUSSIA.
Putin is not going to let USA financed NATO BASES be built and used by NATO.... to "corner" and "trap" Russia.
He went into the Ukraine, to take over these bases and stop the USA, UKRAINE, Nato, ...plan.
The worldwide media, kept this information from you, while they convinced you that your country is "at war with Russia".

Did you vote for that?


The Media will get you killed.
 

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https://www.tucsonsentinel.com/loca...m-follow-voters-combat-unproven-ballot-mules/

THIS! RIGHT HERE! This is kind of what I was talking about in another thread about WE THE PEOPLE- knowing the limitations of government in surveilling the election, because it's "voter suppression" when they do that... their should have been an organized civilian effort- a volunteer militia of sorts- to do surveillance of the boxes... and maybe even some recon of people that are suspected of being involved in the cheating.

Seriously... if the states and counties are going to mysteriously have their surveillance footage of boxes disappear... THEY ARE SLEEPING ON WATCH, OR WORSE. Someone HAS TO DO THIS. IT CANNOT JUST BE LEFT UNDONE.
the sad thing is that it seems like nothing will be done.