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Magenta

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You could be at one end of the universe and God at the other end, and he would still be able to heal you.
Indeed. Saying God cannot heal because of a six foot gap is ridiculously asinine.
 

Gideon300

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I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news Gideon but whatever is in the vaccine is not good for you :(

One of my wife work colleagues died two weeks ago... suddenly... three blood clots through his heart. The third one did major damage and he was gone. He wasn't even thirty years old.

Another person also in the same industry lost their child also from a blood clot, not even 35 years old.

An elderly lady from the old age home we do some work with died two weeks after she took the vaccine. Was always healthy before that.

People at my wife's place of work are getting strange illnesses. If they had high blood pressure before it is now through the roof... medications need to be adjusted. Maybe only a coincidence or maybe not?

All of them took the vaccine so yes, I agree, it is not as if it will kill all at once but there is definitely things in the vaccine that is not good for you.
People die. They get old or they have underlying health issues. America's obesity problem is far more of a health risk than vaccines. Ask COVID sufferers how much fun it is to have the long term after effects. Vaccines prevent infection, or at least reduce the side effects.

Around 85% of Australians, around 21 million people, have been vaccinated. If they all had serious health issues, or died, post vaccination, I'd start to worry.

Everything to do with medicine has a risk factor. There is a trade off, benefit v. risk. The COVID vaccines have far less risk than the overwhelming benefits. Too many anti vaxxers have been silenced by the disease. I do not, unlike some, take pleasure in this.

For example, just one of many:

"Marcus Lamb, founder of Christian network Daystar and vaccine opponent, dies after contracting COVID-19". USA Today. Marcus Lamb had encouraged unapproved treatments for COVID-19, including ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. He called ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug that federal health officials have not approved for treating the virus, a "miracle drug." The Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health have warned Americans against using the drug to treat COVID-19. The Lamb family and Daystar have made controversial statements about the pandemic and promoted misinformation about the virus and vaccines. The network hosted prominent anti-vaccine advocate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whose Instagram account was removed for sharing debunked claims about COVID-19 vaccines. Daystar's website also peddles a host of misinformation about vaccines, urging readers to rethink getting vaccinated and raising concerns about vaccine mandates.

Marcus Lamb was vaccinated shortly before his death. Too late for him, he already had COVID. I wonder how many others were influenced not to be vaccinated because of his stand? He has to answer to God now.
 

Gideon300

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Like those who say that angels cannot fly faster than the speed limit. I'm alive to prove that they can.
 
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People die. They get old or they have underlying health issues. America's obesity problem is far more of a health risk than vaccines. Ask COVID sufferers how much fun it is to have the long term after effects. Vaccines prevent infection, or at least reduce the side effects.

Around 85% of Australians, around 21 million people, have been vaccinated. If they all had serious health issues, or died, post vaccination, I'd start to worry.

Everything to do with medicine has a risk factor. There is a trade off, benefit v. risk. The COVID vaccines have far less risk than the overwhelming benefits. Too many anti vaxxers have been silenced by the disease. I do not, unlike some, take pleasure in this.

For example, just one of many:

"Marcus Lamb, founder of Christian network Daystar and vaccine opponent, dies after contracting COVID-19". USA Today. Marcus Lamb had encouraged unapproved treatments for COVID-19, including ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. He called ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug that federal health officials have not approved for treating the virus, a "miracle drug." The Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health have warned Americans against using the drug to treat COVID-19. The Lamb family and Daystar have made controversial statements about the pandemic and promoted misinformation about the virus and vaccines. The network hosted prominent anti-vaccine advocate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., whose Instagram account was removed for sharing debunked claims about COVID-19 vaccines. Daystar's website also peddles a host of misinformation about vaccines, urging readers to rethink getting vaccinated and raising concerns about vaccine mandates.

Marcus Lamb was vaccinated shortly before his death. Too late for him, he already had COVID. I wonder how many others were influenced not to be vaccinated because of his stand? He has to answer to God now.
I am not here to say vax or don't... I won't take it but it is my personal choice not too...

"Vaccines prevent infection, or at least reduce the side effects."
this is unfortunately not proven. In my office the one lady that took the vaccine have had Covid now 4 times and she can't get over her health issues. One of my best friends had Covid and no health issues... so yes, we can argue about it but I don't think we are getting true figures to compare "facts".
 

JohnDB

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I am not here to say vax or don't... I won't take it but it is my personal choice not too...

"Vaccines prevent infection, or at least reduce the side effects." this is unfortunately not proven. In my office the one lady that took the vaccine have had Covid now 4 times and she can't get over her health issues. One of my best friends had Covid and no health issues... so yes, we can argue about it but I don't think we are getting true figures to compare "facts".
Truly it's a game of Russian roulette....
Everyone gets to play. Even though they may not want to.
You still get a turn.

The thing to do is be prepared to meet your Maker....because you never know if you are.

"Two are working in a field, one is taken and the other left behind...."
 

JohnDB

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I am not here to say vax or don't... I won't take it but it is my personal choice not too...

"Vaccines prevent infection, or at least reduce the side effects." this is unfortunately not proven. In my office the one lady that took the vaccine have had Covid now 4 times and she can't get over her health issues. One of my best friends had Covid and no health issues... so yes, we can argue about it but I don't think we are getting true figures to compare "facts".
Personally I prefer the Moderna vaccine to the Pfizer but that's because I know the gentleman who developed it from his former research which is available on pub med. (He lives and works locally here in TN)
Also...the government is giving preference to Pfizer over Moderna....and I'm not exactly sure why. Moderna has a superior product and a better set of researchers capable of more.

The original vaccine is only capable of protecting those with healthy immune systems from the original three variants we had back in 2020. It was only moderately effective against beta and Delta which appeared before the initial vaccines could be widely distributed.
(Global pandemic....8 billion people)

Now we have several omicron variants which bypass EVERY treatment that we currently have. From antivirals to antibodies and of course the vaccines.

The past cycles of increased transmission and infection rates are good indicators for what is coming. This year is likely to be the most per capita infection rates of any previous year. Quarantine and mask and vaccine fatigue are fully in effect.

The only good news is that these new variants seem to have shorter incubation cycles. The r-naught might be higher but the shorter incubation cycle helps tremendously. Fewer people will be superspreaders.

I'm not positive that the new variant boosters coming out this Fall/Winter are going to be effective against the current variants we currently have in promulgation.
(More Russian Roulette)

Of course I expect a lot more false and misleading propaganda concerning the subject. But getting past 8 different levels of safety monitors, most of which are 3rd party independent, that all get enormous paydays for whistleblowing, whatever they come out with, will have some measure of safety.
 

Gideon300

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I am not here to say vax or don't... I won't take it but it is my personal choice not too...

"Vaccines prevent infection, or at least reduce the side effects." this is unfortunately not proven. In my office the one lady that took the vaccine have had Covid now 4 times and she can't get over her health issues. One of my best friends had Covid and no health issues... so yes, we can argue about it but I don't think we are getting true figures to compare "facts".
All I know for sure is that I've been vaccinated and I'm fine, and millions of Australians are not dropping dead all over the place.
 

JohnDB

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All I know for sure is that I've been vaccinated and I'm fine, and millions of Australians are not dropping dead all over the place.
I agree completely with what you are saying....


But I also know that there is a small percentage of the population that has effects from any artificial vaccine as well. Usually things like autism and ADHD. As well as those who are super allergic to various things.

Now where this group of people is a really small percentage...it can be devastating to them. As a Christian I fully support even the least among our ranks. We can't afford to lose one. "I left the 99 to find the one...and you're the one "

And the other important aspect is that this very small group has been blown out of proportion in various media outlets lately by design.
There are nation states that are opposed to the Western World and their economic dominance over the rest. They know that these new vaccines are effective...but they have an agenda...and it's not a beneficial one. Some of this has been seen already.
 
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All I know for sure is that I've been vaccinated and I'm fine, and millions of Australians are not dropping dead all over the place.
My only question is with a recovery rate of more than 97% (and only the really ill that get effected adversely from Covid) why should I take the vaccine? My wife and I had the Omricon variant last year and was better within a day... no biggy, praise God for that.
 

wolfwint

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I don´t know if the people behind this video are genuine or not.
But what they describe is similar to how World Economic Forum want their "Great Reset". There are some out there telling you that this reset is just a "conspiracy theory" even though everything is on WEF´s website.

A spiritual contact tells me the global economy will collapse this year. Not recession. More like the end of this debt based system i suppose.
It must end because debt can not grow forever. Within this system total debt can not ever stop expanding though.

Chaos, bread lines, sky rocketing crime....
After some time people are offered a "solution".

Military in the streets, social credits, surveillance and a new financial system. In short fascism/communism.

Would the government be able to control riots?

My spiritual contact tells me the vaxx lead to AIDS so those people may not be able to fight anyway.
And they depend on the government to much. Why AIDS? Probably because there are studies showing the vaxx hurt natural immunity (Imprinting/OAS)
And chronic Covid damage your t cells. So similar to AIDS.


I dont know what you fear. God is in controle!
As child of God we dont must have more fear then today. To Die we can face through persecution, sickness, accident today as well.
In many countrys living brothers and sisters already in terrible live conditions.
We must not have fear about the future. Becsusebour liebes in Gods hand. Right? So why you add create panic and fear?
 

wolfwint

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A Complete Lock Up of The System Will Occur.

By Gregory Mannarino
https://gregorymannarino.substack.com/p/a-complete-lock-of-the-system-will

Why is the world awash in never ending and inflating debt? Moreover, why does global debt keep expanding relentlessly every day, every month, and every year, in what seems like some kind of twisted mass insanity?

What is THE REAL TRUTH behind all this?

The answer is simple, and frightening. The expansion of debt cannot ever stop! Additionally, it must constantly and ceaselessly be expanded on EXPONENTIALLY.

What this means is that the amount of debt being borrowed into existence CANNOT EVEN REMAIN STATIC! It must be expanded on VASTLY every moment, every day, every week, every month, and every year, just to allow the system itself to function day to day. If the amount of debt being borrowed into existence were to remain at its current level, without being expanded on, the entire system would FREEZE UP in an instant.

The insanity of all this actually gets even worse.

Despite the FACT that global debt is continually expanding, there is not enough of it.

As most people who follow my work are already aware, the current central bank run global financial system is debt based, and at its core what this means is every conceivable reason, including things which the average person could not even dream of, must and will be utilized to continually find reasons/create more reasons to borrow more cash into existence. As of late the two biggest machinations being forced upon the people of the world and are currently being used as mechanisms to pull EPIC sums into the now by more borrowing are:

1. Global disease processes like Covid and the various variants thereof, also

2. Expanding war(s).

It’s this crisis-to-crisis economic model which has given world leaders a blank check, spending which is not allowed to even be questioned! As they have turned this upside down on the people of the world as ANYONE who now dares question as to why all this crisis-to-crisis spending is being done is then branded as being “unpatriotic!” Or a person who does not care about “helping” people.

NOT ONE mainstream media source will EVER be allowed to explain the truth behind the crisis-to-crisis borrowing debt expansion mechanism, nor will a single world leader, OR a central banker explain it.


Will it ever end?

YES! The system, despite ever expanding debt, will eventually become illiquid.


A lack of liquidity in the system, despite finding ever more reasons to borrow, will eventually reach a saturation point. This saturation point will, and is already, manifesting itself in the form of skyrocketing inflation worldwide.

The inevitable end of the current debt-based system is rapidly approaching, and a move to yet another central bank run system is coming. A system of extreme control, a cashless system, where every single transaction is tracked down to the ten thousandth of a cent.
We know already that this system will come. Its qritten in the book of revealation.
But why you make such a panic about it?
 

wolfwint

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My only question is with a recovery rate of more than 97% (and only the really ill that get effected adversely from Covid) why should I take the vaccine? My wife and I had the Omricon variant last year and was better within a day... no biggy, praise God for that.
The thing is, how your body react to the next variants? If you belong to the 97% it is great.
But are you shure about it? You can tell me the vaccine has sideeffects, right. You can say I will get covid, although i have the vaccine. Right. Still my opinion is that to have the vaccine is better, then nothing.
 
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The thing is, how your body react to the next variants? If you belong to the 97% it is great.
But are you shure about it? You can tell me the vaccine has sideeffects, right. You can say I will get covid, although i have the vaccine. Right. Still my opinion is that to have the vaccine is better, then nothing.
And it remains your choice... I am not putting it in my body... I can see how it is busy destroying people around me and I am not interested in all this fear mongering. God gave us an immune system for a reason and it can even kill C-19
 
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And it remains your choice... I am not putting it in my body... I can see how it is busy destroying people around me and I am not interested in all this fear mongering. God gave us an immune system for a reason and it can even kill C-19
A nurse from church told me that covid was around in the seventies. In fact she said that the spray Glen 20 on the can said something about the spray killing covid so it is not a new thing.
 

wolfwint

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And it remains your choice... I am not putting it in my body... I can see how it is busy destroying people around me and I am not interested in all this fear mongering. God gave us an immune system for a reason and it can even kill C-19
Thats correct, but I saw in my hospital enough people and collegues suffering with C-19 then with the vaccine.
 
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Your spiritual contact is wrong. The vaccination does not hurt natural immunity, otherwise around 25 million Australians, including me, would be dead. There are many people who predict the global economy collapse. They could be right. Or not. AIDS is caused by a virus that requires contact with bodily fluids such as blood. It can't be transmitted through the air. the HIV virus bypasses the immune system anyway, so the vaccination makes no difference.

I suggest that people just chill and check out the facts before making statements that are obviously wrong. A friend of mine died of AIDS about 25 years ago. There was no COVID and therefore no vaccine. Therefore no effect on immunity. Far fewer die of AIDS these days as medications have improved dramatically.
There are several studies that show the injections hurt the immune system.
Covid damage T cells so chronic Covid would be the same as AIDS.

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/aids-like-chronic-covid-is-taking?s=r