Ball Earth conundrums

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Zandar

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What if someone proved the earth wasnt round and in space? Evolution gone. Big bang gone. God is real, fact. It would change everything. It would take power away from the haves and give it to priest. Think about this.
 

Sculpt

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What if someone proved the earth wasnt round and in space? Evolution gone. Big bang gone. God is real, fact. It would change everything. It would take power away from the haves and give it to priest. Think about this.
What other "perfect-world" things can you bring about by pushing a falsehood like a flat earth? You're a "the end justifies the means" type a fellow?
 

Zandar

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I'm saying, there is a reason why the globe is pushed as fact.
 

Sculpt

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I'm saying, there is a reason why the globe is pushed as fact.
It's not "pushed" any more than things like you're breathing air, and dark clouds are filled with moisture, and it usually snows in the northern and southern americas in winter... things discovered, confirmed, tested, reconfirmed and built upon slowly over centuries... It's just the spirit of the FE cult belief that makes you see the spherical earth as being "pushed".

Zandar, you may have dug into FE explanations, observations, etc with an open mind... good! I applaud you. I did the same thing. You're halfway there. Now you just have to do the work of the other half of this issue, just like every other seeker of reality and truth. When are you going to do the other half with an open mind?
 

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It's not "pushed" any more than things like you're breathing air, and dark clouds are filled with moisture, and it usually snows in the northern and southern americas in winter... things discovered, confirmed, tested, reconfirmed and built upon slowly over centuries... It's just the spirit of the FE cult belief that makes you see the spherical earth as being "pushed".

Zandar, you may have dug into FE explanations, observations, etc with an open mind... good! I applaud you. I did the same thing. You're halfway there. Now you just have to do the work of the other half of this issue, just like every other seeker of reality and truth. When are you going to do the other half with an open mind?
It is "pushed" a whole lot more than you realize.

What you are calling the "other half" is really the "first half" - we have all been indoctrinated with the Ball Earth model since birth - he has already 'done' the "other half" - as the "first half" - after which, most people are satisfied to not go any further. It would be more accurate to say that [looking into] the Flat Earth model is the "other half" in this context.
 

Sculpt

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It is "pushed" a whole lot more than you realize.

What you are calling the "other half" is really the "first half" - we have all been indoctrinated with the Ball Earth model since birth - he has already 'done' the "other half" - as the "first half" - after which, most people are satisfied to not go any further. It would be more accurate to say that [looking into] the Flat Earth model is the "other half" in this context.
No, you're wrong. I never questioned earth being spherical. FE was my first look into looking at observations and tests such as visual observations without knowledge of refraction. The second half for me was looking into the proofs, observations and experiments for proof of earth being spherical. Both occurred over many years, and will likely continue.

This thread has demonstrated to me so far, no FE has done the work of the second half.
 

Zandar

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Gyroscopes prove the world is stationary. If you let a motor powered gyro run for hours it will not change position. This proves the world doesn't move.
 

Sculpt

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Gyroscopes prove the world is stationary. If you let a motor powered gyro run for hours it will not change position. This proves the world doesn't move.
Excellent issue to bring forward. I think one needs to dig deep into each individual component -- explore what each side has on the issue, and then put all of the best components together to see which of the two has by far the highest certainty of being correct.

On the gyroscope issue: Bob Knodel & His Ring Laser Gyroscope Experiment (youtube.com)

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Sculpt

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Are you able to provide a brief explanation of what these videos show? The first seemed to be the operation of a gyroscope.
@Zandar Agreed with Moses Young. Zander, can you give a description of any vids you post, like sum it up, what to look for, like "this vid demonstrates that ____"? Especially if it's long duration. A 2min vid it's not a big a deal, but 30 mins... ya kind want to know what the point is first.