Bible Corruptions

[Dino246]

And this is your "opinion" as you only continue your effort to hypocritally attack me, while you side with, and completely ignore the attacks, against me, by the false prophets.

You have a profoundly ignorant and hypocritical understanding of "attack". Because of that, I consider most of your posts on the subject nothing more than pathetic whining. Grow up, or go away.

 

[J-T]

You have a profoundly ignorant and hypocritical understanding of "attack". Because of that, I consider most of your posts on the subject nothing more than pathetic whining. Grow up, or go away.

According to your own poor standards, as it is you that have sided with the false prophets. If you hadn't noticed, I postponed publishing anymore data for the sake of leaving some room for discussion. It is obvious, after a few days, that you and your friend are unable of such, but then again, you did exclude yourself from discussion already. But, hey, why not try again with you explaining why it is that you bat for the other team by siding with the false prophets.

 

[Dino246]

According to your own poor standards, as it is you that have sided with the false prophets. If you hadn't noticed, I postponed publishing anymore data for the sake of leaving some room for discussion. It is obvious, after a few days, that you and your friend are unable of such, but then again, you did exclude yourself from discussion already. But, hey, why not try again with you explaining why it is that you bat for the other team by siding with the false prophets.

Answer my prior questions, and I'll be happy to answer yours.

 

[J-T]

Answer my prior questions, and I'll be happy to answer yours.

This is your typical copout response to avoid responding to the issue of your lukewarm position, of which ties into the topic of the thread, along with the Occult agenda against the King James Bible. That will become further established and proven as more irrefutable information is presented that not only exposes the false prophets and their heresies, along with testomonies of those that have been born again by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, and have been fully delivered from those false prophet groups, as well as evidence of how the antichrist doctrines of devils have made their way into Churches with the aid of the re-written Gnostic perverted Bibles. In the meantime, maybe you won't mind letting me know whether or not you have heard of "Buddha Juice"?

 

[Dino246]

This is your typical copout response to avoid responding to the issue of your lukewarm position, of which ties into the topic of the thread, along with the Occult agenda against the King James Bible. That will become further established and proven as more irrefutable information is presented that not only exposes the false prophets and their heresies, along with testomonies of those that have been born again by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, and have been fully delivered from those false prophet groups, as well as evidence of how the antichrist doctrines of devils have made their way into Churches with the aid of the re-written Gnostic perverted Bibles. In the meantime, maybe you won't mind letting me know whether or not you have heard of "Buddha Juice"?

Answer my prior questions, and I'll be happy to answer yours.

 

[J-T]

Answer my prior questions, and I'll be happy to answer yours.

Polly want a cracker?

 

[mustaphadrink]

What is idiotic about what I wrote there? There is nothing idiotic or hypocritical about what I wrote. Are you bright enough to do some basic research with the search links and results provided? Did you look over the scores of image results per the numbers of "mastphas" to see the various brands of drinks that were primarily wine? Are you not aware that Biblical wine is considered to be Grape Juice? Are you also aware of how Michael Jackson, who was raised a Jehovah's Witness, and later converted to Islam said about the wine that he was drinking, and gave to the underaged boys to drink that he was molesting? What did Michael Jackson call the drink? What is the name, Mustapha, a diriviation of? Did you read the previously posted definitions? Did you also read the deinition of "hypocrisy"? I'm certain that you know all of these things, but just as you turned a blind eye to what the suspected Seventh Day Adventist posted, defending Jehovah's Witnesses, Roman Catholism, Seventh Day Adventists, and so forth, even giving it a "thumbs up" in agreement, you also hypocritically ignored the many times that @mustaphadrink hypocritically, twisted the holy words of Jesus Christ, even in mockery of the KJB, to call me Satan. You may consider yourself to be Mr. Spell Check, along with being a Grammer Specialist, but when it comes to being a Public Relations Specialist for the cultists, you epically fail, as you hypocritically run interference to bat for the other team. Anyone who defends Jehovah's Witnesses or Seventh Day Adventists as being "Christian" is a deveiver and an antichrist, and this applies to any other false prophet group. And anyone that embraces the Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, and/or any other false antichrist religion has bent the knee to Baal.

P.S. Your meaningless attack on any of the words that I occasionally mis-spell, or imperfect chat grammer, as you defend the other team, is a perfect example of a blind guide, which strain a gnat and swallow a camel.

This is a small portion from the passage where The Lord Jesus Christ rebuked hypocritical Pharisees, and when you read through the full context of the Gospel accounts, it is easy to learn precisely how they would strain a gnat and swallow a camel.

Mat 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Mat 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mat 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

Hello Mr. Perfect. having a nice time telling everyone off and adjusting your halo? I guess you must have difficulty getting through doors. Maybe that is a bit too subtle for you.

 

[mustaphadrink]

@mustaphadrink, who's screen name can be legimately translated as Mohammed Juice, Can you understand how ironic it is for someone such as yourself, who has openly stated to be 66 years of age, and a professing long time member of the Charismatic Church, and has openly demonstrated to be able to articulate large posts to be acting in such an immature manner as you have on this thread? [/QUOTE].

Mohammed Juice??????? I must remember that when I do my stand up comedy.

Not once have I stated to be 66 years of age, so get your facts straight.

Not once have I claimed to be a professing long time member of the Charismatic Church, so get your facts straight.

You have the field on immaturity the way you criticize people left right and center so there is none left for me.

 

[J-T]

Not once have I stated to be 66 years of age, so get your facts straight.

Are you 66 years old or 78 years old? No matter what your age is, you have proven to be quite witty with your insults and heretical mockery in defiance of the important of the being born again. This is certainly not the behaviour of someone that is a genuine Christian, and not the behaviour of someone that has has been a Christian for any amount of years, of which is demonstrative proof that you are a fake, as it is a mockery not only against born again Christians such as the Pastor preaching the importance of being born again, but even more so, it is blasphemy against The Lord Jesus Christ that said you must be born again in John 3, and for this, you are without excuse.

Since I retired... When I was brought into the Kingdom of God, at the age of 11, I felt the Holy Spirit fill me and that is probably why I am still here 66 years later.

Not once have I claimed to be a professing long time member of the Charismatic Church, so get your facts straight.

Maybe you can help me get my facts straight?

Some good stuff here, no doubt about that. You put your thinking cap on before you put your foot in your mouth and as a result did not put your foot in your mouth.

In my 66 years as a Christian, I have been an avid devotee whatever church I have been part of. To me name was irrelevant. What they did was more important. But then, being autistic we tend to be all or nothing. I was just as happy to wash the dishes as I was to teach. If it needed doing I did it.

Today, things have changed. Since I have taken the time and trouble to be informed about the scriptures at Bible College, spending six years at uni, where I was at the forefront of debating atheists, secularists, and homosexuals, reading copious number of books about spiritual warfare, sitting in a room listening to a little homily from someone who has no idea what they are talking about doesn't have much appeal.

There is a saying I have adopted and that is I don't believe in flogging a dead horse. If it is dead it is dead and as yet I haven't prayed for one to be brought back to life. Don't know that it would happen even if I shouted myself horse.

I spent three years in a small group that met in a double garage. The meeting started at about 4pm with prayer and ended at the end. Eighty % of them were males surprise surprise. It all ended when a jezebel joined the group. I warned the leader about her but he decided not to heed my advice so she destroyed it.

Since then, try as I might, nothing gelled. Until last year whe I stumbled on a group of men who met on Friday afternoon and was invited to attend which I did. As they say, the rest is history as I have been attending ever since. We are all from different backgrounds but that doesn't matter as we get on so well together. We accept each other's quirks and foibles and everyoe can speak as they are led. We had someone join us this year for the first time and he has been appointed our unoficial chaplain. The fact he is a newcomer did not bother us one bit as he brings whatever God gives him in such a peaceful and compelling way. You cannot but listen to what he has to say and his relationship with the Lord is obvious in what he says.

So my church is on Friday with men of like mind, which we like because you can get a word in edgeways with no women present

What was that? Did I say something wrong?

I am by nature a nutcase. Being autistic means that my sense of humour is never far from the surface, so beware. By way of introduction, I am a retired teacher who received a degree in teaching from university and an anointing from God for teaching. I haven't retired from that one. I have some other degrees in theology, politics and social science. My wife is a teacher as well and we have been married for 50 years.

We have two children and 12 grandchildren. Ten girls and two boys.

I spent the first 40 years of my life living in the UK and was around for the charismatic renewal and was in a church for 10 years that was at the centre of it and birthed many churches throughout the country. Then my wife who is Australian decided she wanted to come back home so to stay married to her I decided to come as well. That was 40 years ago. So I have done half and half. That means I am half English and half Australian.

Here in Australia, I have been head of two parachurch ministries and an Elder of a home fellowship. I tend to be a bit out there and have been used by God to bring miracle healings to people.

One final note. Autistic people do not usually criticise. They usually speak as they find. To give you an example a friend of mine has an autistic boy and one day when they were at the shopping centre, the boy said to his parents "That woman over there is fat." For him, that was a statement of fact. He was not judging her in any way. That is the way I usually operate. If you know that you will not get upset about what I say.

 

[Tararose]

Welcome to Christian chat. I would like to say unity was a normal state but I guess the weeds are fun to crawl through. If I had to use any old English Version it would be the original 1560 Geneva Bible. The Bible of the reformationist. The same Bible the Pilgrims brought on their ship the Mayflower.

The Geneva Bible is one of the most historically significant translations of the Bible into English, preceding the King James Version by 51 years. It was the primary Bible of 16th-century English Protestantism and was used by William Shakespeare, Oliver Cromwell, John Knox, John Donne, and John Bunyan, author of The Pilgrim's Progress (1678). It was one of the Bibles taken to America on the Mayflower (Pilgrim Hall Museum has collected several Bibles of Mayflower passengers).

During this time period, several key English Protestant leaders fled to Geneva, Switzerland, to avoid the persecution in England. Among them were Miles Coverdale, John Foxe, Thomas Sampson, and William Whittingham. With the support of John Calvin and the Scottish Reformer John Knox, these English Reformers decided to publish an English Bible that was not dependent upon the approval of English royalty. Building upon earlier English translations such as those done by William Tyndale and Myles Coverdale, the Geneva Bible was the first English translation in which all of the Old Testament was translated directly from Hebrew manuscripts. Much of the translation work was done by William Whittingham, the brother-in-law of John Calvin.

It is quite similar to the KJV but the words are more direct. And King James VI and I didn't like the reformationist's commentary or notes so they excluded that from the KJV.

Either way I have studied and compared many translations current and old. Which is a good study practice regardless. You will obviously by your post disagree with me. But I still haven't felt the need to use a old English Version. Because technically the old English Versions are just translations of older manuscripts. And with our ability to have interlinear or Hebrew/ Greek to English versions we can further study the details of words.

In my opinion this isn't a soul salvation issue. And I read KJV posts all the time. The only thing I disagree with is always the theological interpretation and not the scripture.

I find it easier to evangelize to younger generations by using modern translations. When I write a message or study series. I use multiple translations within finding more accurate wording or easier wording for new believers.

For convenience I use the NIV as that is what I post the most often. But in study I may examine every word and multiple translations.

I respect your opinion and once you get this off your chest and carry out the search for heretics itch. I'm sure I will enjoy your topics on theology.

I confess I didn't read what you wrote, but I was skimming through the first posters series of messages to see what the whole tread came out of, and noticed your gif underneath and couldn't help but have a chuckle. It is really funny cheered me up lol