Conspiracy thinker vs trust

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You know my mom got the vaccine and intends to get it again soon she wants me to be able to get it and when I told her I am not getting the vaccine she said you don't have a choice your getting it.
Now just from the capabilities of what can be done with the vaccine and how it can be used to alter dna regardless if it's the mark of the beast or not I don't want it but more than that why should I get it when God has protected me this entire time from it? When I was out and about not wearing a mask being around people and I am supposed to be more susceptible to the virus because of my diabetes my history with cancer and my lower immune system yet never once got it.

How much do we really trust God? Do we really trust in a vaccine to keep us safe? do we really trust in a vaccine to get things normal again? Do we really trust a vaccine to save us from this virus? If I end up getting from trusting in God and not a man made vaccine then so be it but Iam not taking this thing only God can truly protect and save
It can't alter your DNA. That's impossible. DNA produces mRNA. mRNA cannot go the other direction into DNA. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how mRNA works. Just google it and read credible science not antivaccine misinformation. Don't get it if you don't want to get it but don't let it be because you think it alters DNA because then your reason will be because you are believing a lie.
 

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It can't alter your DNA. That's impossible. DNA produces mRNA. mRNA cannot go the other direction into DNA. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how mRNA works. Just google it and read credible science not antivaccine misinformation. Don't get it if you don't want to get it but don't let it be because you think it alters DNA because then your reason will be because you are believing a lie.
Dna is already being altered and experimented with dna is a genetic code and like any other kind of code it can be deciphered and altered animal testing is done all the time adding and extracting combining and ciscecting all in the name of science and many scientists believe this can be done with human for the good of humanity any gentic defect can be altered or switched out like how one gets an organ transplant

You can call it a lie or conspiracy but have you ever wondered why it was changed from corona virus to covid? You are at least aware that they intend to make it where you cannot go anywhere or buy anything without showing verification of being vaccinated right? You will need to show a certificate of vaccination id as to not endanger anyone of the virus oh wait hold on you need to show a Certificate Of Vaccination ID
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Dna is already being altered and experimented with dna is a genetic code and like any other kind of code it can be deciphered and altered animal testing is done all the time adding and extracting combining and ciscecting all in the name of science and many scientists believe this can be done with human for the good of humanity any gentic defect can be altered or switched out like how one gets an organ transplant

You can call it a lie or conspiracy but have you ever wondered why it was changed from corona virus to covid? You are at least aware that they intend to make it where you cannot go anywhere or buy anything without showing verification of being vaccinated right? You will need to show a certificate of vaccination id as to not endanger anyone of the virus oh wait hold on you need to show a Certificate Of Vaccination ID
COVID
Just stick to the bible and take the vaccine dude. You don't need to risk it. There is much more risk in getting the virus.

It is impossible for mRNA to alter your DNA. Not happening. It is not even a theory. It cannot even be explained how that might happen. Anything you read that tries to is an attempt by some prankster to see if you're stupid enough to believe it. Don't.

Or you could skip the mRNA vaccines and get one like the AstraZeneca that uses the DNA of the virus to make a part of the virus that your body will make antibodies for. This is the old vaccine technology and we have long term safety data to prove that you will be ok long term.

It is really not that complicated. No one is going to make you get a mark. Vaccination records have been around for 80 years so don't be scared of vaccination records all of the sudden. No one is going to force you. Except maybe your mom. Obey your mom.
 
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You know my mom got the vaccine and intends to get it again soon she wants me to be able to get it and when I told her I am not getting the vaccine she said you don't have a choice your getting it.
Now just from the capabilities of what can be done with the vaccine and how it can be used to alter dna regardless if it's the mark of the beast or not I don't want it but more than that why should I get it when God has protected me this entire time from it? When I was out and about not wearing a mask being around people and I am supposed to be more susceptible to the virus because of my diabetes my history with cancer and my lower immune system yet never once got it.

How much do we really trust God? Do we really trust in a vaccine to keep us safe? do we really trust in a vaccine to get things normal again? Do we really trust a vaccine to save us from this virus? If I end up getting from trusting in God and not a man made vaccine then so be it but Iam not taking this thing only God can truly protect and save
You are the difference between a christian with faith and one without it... You keep trusting in God, and let the others trust in their vaccine, at the end of the day we will see which choice is better.
 
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You are the difference between a christian with faith and one without it... You keep trusting in God, and let the others trust in their vaccine, at the end of the day we will see which choice is better.
Most Christians believe that you can have faith in God and pray for a vaccine to be developed that will wipe out the virus. We did that and God answered our prayers of faith and had mercy on the world. You are welcome for our intercession and standing in the Gap. :) Thank God for his mercy in providing us with a vaccine. It could have been unsuccessful but it was successful.
 
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Hey @Scribe . Was just wondering what you do for work, your wife. The more u know about someone the better chance of understanding
Dictionary says.... (of a disease) prevalent over a whole country or the world.
Yes if that is a pandemic I guess we are.
Yes good one... Im glad u brought it up. That is certainly correct.
That is also the definition used by the WHO now since 2010. Before that deaths had to be a parameter, not anymore... Why? Hmm

Lets use that definition... So that means that we have many pandemics currently in the world, not just covid... We have several different STD pandemics, we have the annual flu pandemic, we have always had multiple pandemics at any given moment in time.

So then the question becomes this... Why is this pandemic getting all this attention?
Its not proven to be anymore dangerous than the flu or any other pandemic
It hasn't made any noticeable difference in total deaths. So why the panic?
Why the great sacrifice of 50 million Americans loosing their jobs? Countless suicides and a lifetime of poverty? What for?

And on a personal level... Why in the bloody hell have i been force driven into poverty and homelessness???
 
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I've been so deeply impacted by this scam that its really difficult to control my anger and resentment...
As i lay in the back of my van at night the evil one torments me, trying to convince me to go on a rampage...
Iv thought about storming parliament on a murderous rampage to kill all those criminals...
He is constantly trying to provoke me into sinful actions, trying to use my misfortune as justification...

Therfore im deeply invested in this situation. It has had a direct impact on my life... But i struggle to understand the motivation of people that remain unaffected by covid yet argue so strongly in favour of all this.

@Scribe whats your motivation? Why do u have such a strong view on this and what other people think?
Have u been directly affected by covid? What kind of work do u and your wife do?

Help me understand where your coming from
 

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Just stick to the bible and take the vaccine dude. You don't need to risk it. There is much more risk in getting the virus.

It is impossible for mRNA to alter your DNA. Not happening. It is not even a theory. It cannot even be explained how that might happen. Anything you read that tries to is an attempt by some prankster to see if you're stupid enough to believe it. Don't.

Or you could skip the mRNA vaccines and get one like the AstraZeneca that uses the DNA of the virus to make a part of the virus that your body will make antibodies for. This is the old vaccine technology and we have long term safety data to prove that you will be ok long term.

It is really not that complicated. No one is going to make you get a mark. Vaccination records have been around for 80 years so don't be scared of vaccination records all of the sudden. No one is going to force you. Except maybe your mom. Obey your mom.
I believe I am sticking to the bible by not taking the vaccine, even if I am wrong in not trusting it I did trust God and I still trust him to protect me the scriptures say to trust in him for all our needs O haven't seen anywhere in scripture where says to trust in mans method of protection for our protection

It's true that if I get it I am more likely to die but I am willing to risk that chance so far my trust in him has not failed me even though by all accounts I should have gotten it a long time ago, personally I do not know for sure if this vaccine is evil in intent or not I simply don't trust it and I have nothing against anyone who does take it but as for me personally I trust God not this vaccine
 

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I've been so deeply impacted by this scam that its really difficult to control my anger and resentment...
As i lay in the back of my van at night the evil one torments me, trying to convince me to go on a rampage...
Iv thought about storming parliament on a murderous rampage to kill all those criminals...
He is constantly trying to provoke me into sinful actions, trying to use my misfortune as justification...

Therfore im deeply invested in this situation. It has had a direct impact on my life... But i struggle to understand the motivation of people that remain unaffected by covid yet argue so strongly in favour of all this.

@Scribe whats your motivation? Why do u have such a strong view on this and what other people think?
Have u been directly affected by covid? What kind of work do u and your wife do?

Help me understand where your coming from
My friend the enemy has been doing the exact same thing to me exactly as you described the rage and anger inside just boils and seethes I am constantly under attack by the enemy using my misfortunes as justification and I can't trust myself in my anger no matter how justified it seems
The enemy has been dealing me one severe attack after another much more than normal and he has apparently been doing this to others in the same manner as I have spoken to many about the increase in attacks and their severity
 
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I believe I am sticking to the bible by not taking the vaccine, even if I am wrong in not trusting it I did trust God and I still trust him to protect me the scriptures say to trust in him for all our needs O haven't seen anywhere in scripture where says to trust in mans method of protection for our protection

It's true that if I get it I am more likely to die but I am willing to risk that chance so far my trust in him has not failed me even though by all accounts I should have gotten it a long time ago, personally I do not know for sure if this vaccine is evil in intent or not I simply don't trust it and I have nothing against anyone who does take it but as for me personally I trust God not this vaccine
You don't have to stop trusting God to set a broken leg. If they put metal on it to fix it, it is not "man's method" it is just medical science and it works. You don't stop trusting God if you take antibiotics to stop an infection in your mouth from going to your brain and killing you. It's called medical science and it works. It is all from God. God gave us knowledge on how to defeat the virus by getting our bodies to create the antibodies with our own immune system. It is not a chemical we inject that defeats the virus, It is our immune system. Read about it. It is still trusting God to use medicine that works. It is testing God to jump from a cliff and ask him to catch you. It is testing God to refuse medication and die. That is my view anyway.
 
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I've been so deeply impacted by this scam that its really difficult to control my anger and resentment...
As i lay in the back of my van at night the evil one torments me, trying to convince me to go on a rampage...
Iv thought about storming parliament on a murderous rampage to kill all those criminals...
He is constantly trying to provoke me into sinful actions, trying to use my misfortune as justification...

Therfore im deeply invested in this situation. It has had a direct impact on my life... But i struggle to understand the motivation of people that remain unaffected by covid yet argue so strongly in favour of all this.

@Scribe whats your motivation? Why do u have such a strong view on this and what other people think?
Have u been directly affected by covid? What kind of work do u and your wife do?

Help me understand where your coming from
I read books. I read credible resources. I can easily recognize ignorant babble.

I am not married, and I am a full time preacher of the Gospel. I cannot go to many places I am supposed to be going to win souls right now. Prisons, county jails, nursing homes, hospitals, public outreach venues. I cannot travel and visit many other churches as I should be able to. Not as many are attending church due to fear of infection. It directly affects my life. I can't get mad at anyone, it is a virus. How do I take it out on a virus? Design a vaccine that works to cause our immune system to create the antibodies to take it out if it tries to invade me and in time it dies out for lack of hosts. THAT'S HOW.

I have many friends who have gotten sick and were sick for a long time. Some are still not fully recovered and are praying for taste and smell and breath to be normal again. It is a real nasty virus and the world is trying to deal with it as best as they can. These are the facts. Yes it is only a little over 2% that die but a lot more than that who are gravely ill for two months. And 2% is a lot of people. The vaccine is a God send and will wipe it out. It is only a matter of time now.

There is always another job. If you trust God to have complete control of your life He will give you a better job than you had before.

There is no conspiracy. It is just a virus. A bad one but not as bad as it might be in the future. A really bad one could come along that kills people in a matter of days. Virologists expect it some day. It is the way nature works.

It makes no sense to get in a rage. That is just being defeated by satan who is lying to you and you are believing the lies. It's a virus not a conspiracy.
 
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I can easily recognize ignorant babble.
My life is has been destroyed by all this and im homeless yet u regard what i say as ignorant babble...

Ok im calm enough to proceed...
All the best to you and may God be by your side always
 
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My life is has been destroyed by all this and im homeless yet u regard what i say as ignorant babble...

Ok im calm enough to proceed...
All the best to you and may God be by your side always
I've been homeless and slept on park benches and the bushes of dog parks. You don't get past that by entertaining rage in your heart. You'll have to let that stuff go.
 
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I've been homeless and slept on park benches and the bushes of dog parks. You don't get past that by entertaining rage in your heart. You'll have to let that stuff go.
Did i say i was entertaining rage or that i wanted to hold onto this torment? No... How patronizing. A huge sense of self righteousness in this one... LoL:D

I comprehensively debunked your view of covid being a pandemic.
U resorted with a cheap ad hominem, labelling my life as ignorant babble.

A virtual admittance of defeat and so i let u go peacefully... Good bye
 

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You don't have to stop trusting God to set a broken leg. If they put metal on it to fix it, it is not "man's method" it is just medical science and it works. You don't stop trusting God if you take antibiotics to stop an infection in your mouth from going to your brain and killing you. It's called medical science and it works. It is all from God. God gave us knowledge on how to defeat the virus by getting our bodies to create the antibodies with our own immune system. It is not a chemical we inject that defeats the virus, It is our immune system. Read about it. It is still trusting God to use medicine that works. It is testing God to jump from a cliff and ask him to catch you. It is testing God to refuse medication and die. That is my view anyway.
I am not opposed to man made help I myself have to take so much medication just to stay alive I even have a machine implanted in my stomach for my diabetes however in this in particular I am feeling the call to trust god not the vaccine
I am very sensative to his voice and even I think it is crazy and dangerous to risk getting the virus and dying as the cost of me getting it is pretty much death but maybe that is the point I mean what is true faith if not the choice to have it when you have a lot to lose?

I have to do what my heart is telling me even if it is completely illogical
 
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Hahahaa! I'm so autistic! At first I laughed. Then I was thinking "This meme sucks because the third panel implies that NPC's actually think." Then I looked at it again and I noticed that the teeth of the gears don't engage one another, so then I was back to laughing again.:ROFL:
 
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Hahahaa! I'm so autistic! At first I laughed. Then I was thinking "This meme sucks because the third panel implies that NPC's actually think." Then I looked at it again and I noticed that the teeth of the gears don't engage one another, so then I was back to laughing again.:ROFL:
AHAHAHA i never even noticed that.
I have a template of that meme so i added the words and the gears. I put it there to try and indicate it was searching for a pre-programmed response, and when no response was found it resorts to slander which signifies its been defeated...
An attempt to insult someone in a debate is only used when they have no counter argument.

But your interpretation of the gears is even better... Hehehe...:ROFL:. Grinding gears would suit as well