Did man land on the moon?

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Did man land on the moon?


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Lunar Lasers:

"... The first successful lunar ranging tests were carried out in 1962 when Louis Smullin and Giorgio Fiocco from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from the Moon's surface using a laser with a 50J 0.5 millisecond pulse length.[5] Similar measurements were obtained later the same year by a Soviet team at the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory using a Q-switched ruby laser.[6] ..." -​

Statistically speaking:

"... Just under half of Russians think the U.S. moon landing in 1969 was a government hoax, a poll has found. In a survey of 1,600 adults in Russia, researchers also found only 31 percent believe American astronauts landed on the moon in the last century. ..." - U.S. moon landing was a hoax, half of Russians believe

The Russians got their own 'thing' (fakery) going besides the US.

"... 1 in 10 Americans Don't Believe the Moon Landing Really Happened ..." - 1 in 10 Americans Don't Believe the Moon Landing Really Happened

"... The United States had an official resident population of 331,449,281 on April 1, 2020, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. ..." - Demographics of the United States - Wikipedia

"Aug 01, 2021 08:44 UTC (+7) ... 332,579,330 (as of this citation) ..." - Population Clock

Thus 1 out of 10 = 33,257,933 people just in the United States alone.
 
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GaryA

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What would be the point of faking a noon landing?
To convince people that some astronauts had a mid-day picnic and ate lunch together on the moon surface shortly after landing? :unsure:
 

MessengerofTruth

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That 'interview' is not real. It's an actor, reading a script.
I wondered about that. Thanks for letting me know.

As I see things shaping up and so much deception and ability to deceive so pervasive, I am learning to be wary of everything and careful to only be dogmatic about what GOD reveals to me to be the Truth.
 
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Man tried to the moon, but they failed. It’s way too complicated. You can’t just fly there and land like it’s any regular flight. Outer spacer is extremely harsh; extreme radiation, extreme temperatures, no breathable atmosphere, &c.

So there’s no way they could have did that in the late 1960’s. They still can’t do it today.
 
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And think about it. God designed it this way. I don’t think He wants humans wandering too far from earth.
 
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Gojira

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You need to do some research that proves we were on the moon.
The things cited in the visual evidence is terribly ignorant about physics and other natural phenomena. Every argument against, based on the film and photo record, shows a great unfamiliarity with photography and light.

Those who question are not up much on science.

The moon rocks and how NASA prosecutes and confiscates them---and moon dust, is also good evidence.

I think nothing much happened that is very great in next generations so they are unaccustomed to accomplishment. Sorry you couldn't be there.

There has been enlarged photographs of the moon that show the tire marks of the astronauts. There are the signals from the moon being sent to earth from equipment left there. Every single "What about THAT" from doubters has been embarrassingly dumb.

A friend of mine worked for NASA since Apollo 11 and made a career of examining and micro-photographing the rocks.
This can't be. If we landed on the moon, that means that the earth is spherical. And, we all know it's not :D
 
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Gojira

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Ya know, the Body of Christ scares me. 13 yes, SIXTEEN NO??!!??
 
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I wondered about that. Thanks for letting me know.

As I see things shaping up and so much deception and ability to deceive so pervasive, I am learning to be wary of everything and careful to only be dogmatic about what GOD reveals to me to be the Truth.
Sure, no worries. I just don't want those who are advocating for truth to be drawn into deception by others, so that truth is mocked. Keep alert of incorrect claims, etc, and always test everything, before posting, keep a humble heart in case a mistake is made, and it will help keep you and others safe. :)
 

MessengerofTruth

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Sure, no worries. I just don't want those who are advocating for truth to be drawn into deception by others, so that truth is mocked. Keep alert of incorrect claims, etc, and always test everything, before posting, keep a humble heart in case a mistake is made, and it will help keep you and others safe. :)
Thanks for your exhortation. I receive it. :)
 
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This can't be. If we landed on the moon, that means that the earth is spherical. And, we all know it's not :D
The two things are separate and distinct claims, and unrelated. Anyone which is unable to address the evidence of the one (lunar), always tries to make the association with the other (terrestrial), which is a logical fallacy, called "poisoning the well". The OP is about, "Did we land on the moon", and that topic is not addressing the other 'shape of the earth'. Please consider the evidence under present discussion, which deals with the lunar body, not the terrestrial body.

There is plenty of material to discuss about the lunar.

[01] Photographs and their numerous anomolies
[02] Video and it's numerous anomolies
[03] Radiation (earthly, cis-lunar and lunar and solar), Van Allen, etc
[04] Distance
[05] Time
[06] Technology
[07] Human body
[08] The Suits and their various make-ups.
[09] The craft and their various make-ups
[10] Fuel
[11] Audio travel, distortion, time
[12] Sound in 'space'
[13] Claims of material brought on board and back from 'mission' by the various flights
[14] Location of landing
[15] Witnesses
[16] Whistleblowers, insiders, cover-ups, deletions, technicians
[17] Missing data (telemetry, etc), or items
[18] Contradictory claims
[19] Why we never went back after a certain period, and the claims being made now in the last several decades
[20] Air suppy (suit, craft, etc)
[21] Temperature, earthly, in craft, on lunar surface, in direct light, in direct shade
[22] Persons themselves and their actions, statements, reactions
[23] Stanley Kubrick, Walt Disney, CIA, German War Criminals (Von Braun, et al)
[24] Scriptural testimony itself, to be preferred above all the rest ...
[&c] ...
 
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Gojira

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The two things are separate and distinct claims, and unrelated. Anyone which is unable to address the evidence of the one (lunar), always tries to make the association with the other (terrestrial), which is a logical fallacy, called "poisoning the well". The OP is about, "Did we land on the moon", and that topic is not addressing the other 'shape of the earth'. Please consider the evidence under present discussion, which deals with the lunar body, not the terrestrial body.

There is plenty of material to discuss about the lunar.

[01] Photographs and their numerous anomolies
[02] Video and it's numerous anomolies
[03] Radiation (earthly, cis-lunar and lunar and solar), Van Allen, etc
[04] Distance
[05] Time
[06] Technology
[07] Human body
[08] The Suits and their various make-ups.
[09] The craft and their various make-ups
[10] Fuel
[11] Audio travel, distortion, time
[12] Sound in 'space'
[13] Claims of material brought on board and back from 'mission' by the various flights
[14] Location of landing
[15] Witnesses
[16] Whistleblowers, insiders, cover-ups, deletions, technicians
[17] Missing data (telemetry, etc), or items
[18] Contradictory claims
[19] Why we never went back after a certain period, and the claims being made now in the last several decades
[20] Air suppy (suit, craft, etc)
[21] Temperature, earthly, in craft, on lunar surface, in direct light, in direct shade
[22] Persons themselves and their actions, statements, reactions
[23] Stanley Kubrick, Walt Disney, CIA, German War Criminals (Von Braun, et al)
[24] Scriptural testimony itself, to be preferred above all the rest ...
[&c] ...
:rolleyes:
 
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Let's look at practical things.

Can you tell me what the boots, along with the spacesuits were made of, and what radiation protection was built into the boots, and suit, and their thermal tolerances?

Here is some information that you might consider:






"... This boot is part of the pair that was made for and worn by Eugene Cernan, commander of the Apollo 17 mission that landed on the moon on December 10, 1972.​
The International Latex Corporation made the boots which were part of Cernan's extra-vehicular (EV) equipment. The EV boots were worn over the boots that were integrated into the spacesuit and which included the pressure bladder and thermal coverings. The boots were made with a silicone sole, woven stainless steel uppers (Chromel-R), and included additional layers of thermal protection and beta felt in the soles as protection against extreme temperatures and sharp rocks on the lunar surface.​
Transferred to the National Air and Space Museum from NASA in 1974 ..." - Boot, Left, Lunar Overshoe, Cernan, Apollo 17, Flown | National Air and Space Museum

"Chromel-R" is a metal woven fabric. Beta felt is a Teflon coated Beta cloth (glass fiber).
"Chromel R, a nickel chromium alloy fiber developed by Hoskins Mfg. Co. in the mid-1960s, was used in the form of a woven-metal fabric to protect the astronauts’ legs from hot gases produced by the astronauts’ maneuvering unit. These materials would also be used in the subsequent Apollo program."- Textiles in space – Advanced Textiles Source

"... The outer layer of a lunar boot, except for the sole, was fabricated from Chromel-R and the tongue area was made of Teflon-coated Beta cloth. ..." - https://www.history.nasa.gov/SP-368/s6ch6.htm
"... The 1967 tragedy in the Apollo program led to major breakthroughs in textile science and engineering. The cabin fire that killed Gus Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee during a launch pad test directly led to the development of the Beta glass fiber by Owens Corning Fiberglas Corp.​
The company had been experimenting with an ultrafine glass fiber when NASA’s Johnson Space Center contracted it to further the development of ultrafine fibers. The result of this work was the development of a glass fiber with a 4.8 micron diameter that became known as Beta fiber in the aerospace community. Both NASA and Owens Corning invested in this development.​
Owens Corning built a full-scale production plant after the successful development of the finest glass fiber ever made. Beta glass fiber was used extensively in the Apollo spacesuit and many other applications through the Apollo and space shuttle programs. The production plant operated until the mid-1990s when it was dismantled. Aerospace agencies had been the only customers for Beta glass fiber over the decades, and the consumption of the fiber was insufficient for the company to sustain the operation of the plant. ..." - Textiles in space – Advanced Textiles Source
"... The inner layers consisted of two layers of Kapton followed by five layers of aluminized, perforated Mylar. The Mylar layers were separated by four layers of nonwoven Dacron followed by an inner liner of Teflon-coated Beta cloth. Two layers of Nomex felt in the sole ..." - https://www.history.nasa.gov/SP-368/s6ch6.htm
I did not see any radiation shielding mentioned in the making of those boots - at all. Silicone, glass fiber and 'stainless steel' are not radiation shielding materials. Galvanized Steel can block some EMF radiation.

"... One concern about gamma radiation is the possibility of too much crosslinking. Additional crosslinking may deform the product and decrease its flexibility and tensile strength as well as increase the durometer of the silicone. Bond rupturing also occurs in extreme cases. ..." - 3 Sterilization Methods for Silicone Devices

Additionally, When those boots (and the compositional materials, especially the outer most external material) were in direct contact with the lunar surface on excursions (EVA's) for several hours at a time - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacewalks_and_moonwalks_1965–1999 while in direct sunlight, and in shadow, what radiated the heat (sunlight and surface temperature - Lunar Temperature - Lunarpedia ) and cold (shade and surface temperature) away from the soles of the astronauts feet?
"... Over the course of a full lunar day and night, the temperature on the Moon can vary wildly, from around +200 to -200 degrees Celsius (+392 to -328 degrees Fahrenheit) ..." - This is our planet: Awesome ISS time-lapse will blow your mind | Space Facts – Astronomy, the Solar System & Outer Space | All About Space Magazine

Would that boot material, under standard earth conditions crack, warp or deviate in form (shrink or expand, and to what extent) under similar temperatures and durations?

Can we see a demonstration of such a boot test from NASA of those historical footware that are on display, showing that they are capable of withstanding such temperatures and their extreme ranges.
"... Museum conservators try to extend the life and integrity of objects that have become fragile over time. The fragile interior rubber bladder layer and woven Link-Net restraint layer of this suit mean that it needs to be displayed with as little weight as possible pulling on it. Because the boots are sewn onto the legs of the suit, a reclined display removes that additional pressure. ..." - Floating | Outside the Spacecraft
If those boots really worked so well as claimed on a lunar surface, then why wouldn't they work on Martian ones or future lunar surface EVA'S, and why the need to redesign them? The only 'boots' utilized now are for non-walking EVA's - NASA - These Boots are Made for Walking

What do you know about Radiation levels on earth, as opposed to levels of radiation at high altitudes (LEO, UEA), and Cis-Lunar, or Cis-Solar, or Cis-Planetary?
 

PennEd

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Ya know, the Body of Christ scares me. 13 yes, SIXTEEN NO??!!??
I mean you only making statements like this because you believe what they told you.

Have you actually ever given an honest hearing of the evidence against not stepping foot on the moon?

Up until several yrs ago, I thought it ridiculous as well, but after hearing all the evidence against, I’d bet my life we didn’t walk on the moon.
 

MrE

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I mean you only making statements like this because you believe what they told you.

Have you actually ever given an honest hearing of the evidence against not stepping foot on the moon?

Up until several yrs ago, I thought it ridiculous as well, but after hearing all the evidence against, I’d bet my life we didn’t walk on the moon.
It's the typical response and I'm always surprised when I see something "other" than the expected knee-jerk reactions from the spoon-fed masses. It used to be worse. I used to think I was the only one who could see through it, and that's a lonely, scary place-- to think you are so far from mainstream. Now, it's liberating and wonderful to see so many others willing to question the narratives. So many willing to ask questions and consider the evidence of fraud.

Fraud happens precisely because people go along with the show for too long. Ponzi schemes, financial fraud, medical fraud, political fraud, religious fraud--- it's all the same. It occurs because people let it. They turn blind eyes away from those things that are 'not right' and convince themselves that they must be right, because why would anyone want to deceive them. Liars are going to lie. Cheaters are going to cheat. Deceivers are going to deceive.

But now it's no longer one little boy pointing out the obvious that everyone else was too afraid, or too stupid to say--


 

MrE

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This can't be. If we landed on the moon, that means that the earth is spherical. And, we all know it's not :D
You don't know all the things you don't know.

 

Dude653

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Asked once but I'll ask again. What would be the point of faking a moon landing?