Did man land on the moon?

[Gojira]

https://starwalk.space/en/news/the-full-wolf-moon-lights-up-the-winter-sky

That photo linked to is not proof of anything. In fact, it proves my point. Really, Z, you'd be laughed out of any kind of a debate or presentation trying to prove your point if you showed this ridiculous example.

It is multiple and combined exposures. I have never done astrophotography on this level, but I've watched videos on it since I've had an interest in this since I was young. It takes special techniques to get a picture like this -- especially with film cameras in 196-freakin-9.

You wanna throw up links? Fine. I don't have all day for this, but...

https://m.astronomy.com/magazine/as...can-the-stars-only-be-seen-with-an-atmosphere

https://www.planetary.org/articles/why-are-there-no-stars

https://ourplnt.com/why-there-are-no-stars-in-space-photos/

https://www.discovery.com/science/a...ren-t-there-stars-in-the-moon-landing-photos-

There is no logic in keeping the stars invisible to enhance a hoaxed landing. That's devoid of any common sense.

People claiming this embarrassing BS need to explain why our enemies didn't call us out. That's not something to dismiss -- it's an indirect historical proof.

Again, and this was not addressed also, the dust kicks could not be faked like that in 1969. It was lifted and fell back down like water. Everyone kicking soil or sand knows that the finer particles are lifted and they resemble smoke floating off. But, in the moon shots, the dust acted like water. Why? No atmosphere. Common-flippin-sense.

That anyone still argues against this today is frightening. But, some breathe conspiracies. They need them. We're all going to starve in 6 months! That was a year and a half ago. JFK's murder was a conspiracy!!! Only it was some communist nut.

Tired of ignorance in the body of Christ. Our enemy-in-chief does not need us to throw him ammunition to make the world hate us.

 

[Zandar]

The lander was 1/1,000th the weight of the Apollo rocket fully loaded. So they need 1/3,000th the fuel.

then why use all that fuel? i understand that the the more fuel the more weight but it used all those tons of fuel for what? it hadd to catchthe speed of the moon, yes, but it also had to reverse that speed to break of the moon orbit.

 

[ZNP]

then why use all that fuel? i understand that the the more fuel the more weight but it used all those tons of fuel for what? it hadd to catchthe speed of the moon, yes, but it also had to reverse that speed to break of the moon orbit.

you need a lot more fuel to break free of Earth's gravity which as you say is 6x greater, and that fuel has weight so then you need more fuel to help lift all that fuel

 

[ZNP]

One issue I have which seems very bogus to me is that the astronauts left their boots on the moon to save weight? That just seems absurd.

 

[Zandar]

i forgot, they slingshoted it from earths orbit. but where is any fuel at all

 

[Zandar]

if you ever turn a critical eye on this whole program, the whole thing will seem silly

 

[Zandar]

i love this one and who filmed this and how did they get the film back to earth?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Wow, I just saw this clip of an interview with Buzz Aldrin!

Buzz on Conan, Question from 8 Year Old

 

[resto]

i love this one and who filmed this and how did they get the film back to earth?

Its not film, its a microwave signal sent to earth. I worked with this very Equipment in College. All the Parts from this Communications program was donated to my college after Apollo was cancelled. BTW who resurrected this "Thread From The Dead"?

 

[resto]

One issue I have which seems very bogus to me is that the astronauts left their boots on the moon to save weight? That just seems absurd.

I understand how you feel about this. But I used to Fly when I was Younger. I was an F 4 Phantom Tech in The USMC. I held a Turn Up/Taxi Cert. My first Job in Civilian life was as an FAA Loadmaster for an Airline. Then worked for Bell Aerospace. Then went GS. After I retired I was bored. So I went to work for a Military Contractor(Classified till I die). I retired from that 2 months ago. Ever read about a Bomber in WWII losing an Engine or two and throwing everything out the doors to reduce weight? Weight is critical. Yes I believe it. What Blows my mind is that They survived. Ive read books that the Astronauts and their Wives wrote about their experiences. I believe God Himself was involved in the Apollo Program. Just like every War this Nation has Fought. The USA and all it has done is Impossible. No one would believe any of it, if it was just a movie. The USA is a Miracle of God. I Believe it. My Family is one of the Founding Families of this Nation. We have all the Bibles with all the Births and Marriages since 1652 when we came here. I am Humbled and very upset by what these people have done with all our work. See You in Thailand

 

[Gideon300]

operation paperclip. i think we got some folks from 731 also

Yes. The Russians also grabbed German scientists and some went to Britain.

How much Space Radiation are Astronauts Exposed to?
Beyond Low Earth Orbit, space radiation may place astronauts at significant risk for radiation sickness, and increased lifetime risk for cancer, central nervous system effects, and degenerative diseases. Research studies of exposure in various doses and strengths of radiation provide strong evidence that cancer and degenerative diseases are to be expected from exposures to galactic cosmic rays (GCR) or solar particle events (SPE).

Milli-Sievert (mSv) is a form of measurement used for radiation. Astronauts are exposed to ionizing radiation with effective doses in the range from 50 to 2,000 mSv. 1 mSv of ionizing radiation is equivalent to about three chest x-rays. So that’s like if you were to have 150 to 6,000 chest x-rays.

https://www.nasa.gov/analogs/nsrl/why-space-radiation-matters

You know when you ask reasonable questions and the response is insults that you have discovered a lie.

You asserted that only lead could shield the astronauts. This is not true. Nuclear radiation differs from cosmic radiation.

Neil Armstrong: died aged 82
Buzz Aldrin: still alive, 93
Alan Bean, died at 86
Edgar Mitchell also 86
David Scott, still alive, 91
Charles Conrad died at 69
James Irwin died at 61
Alan Shepard died at 74.

Space does not seem to have bothered these men that much.

 

[Gideon300]

Besides the deal clencher radiation issue and other serious problems with the moon landing, there is a myriad of other supporting evidence that collectively removes any doubt about the fakery.

Such as the proven fake “moon rocks”, or Aldrin and especially Kubrick confessions.

But think about this, it has been a solid half century since the last time we supposedly went.

If we deduct 50 years from the date we supposedly went, you get to the year 1919.

Flight was still in it’s infancy. We were flying bi planes with single propellers.

In that 50 years we went from biplanes to jets to rockets.

What have we to show as it pertains to flight, especially space flight, from 1969 to 2023?

We have the joke called the space shuttle. Which accomplished what exactly? Except to confirm that as we approach the end of lower earth orbit, the radiation is too intense for humans, as some of the astronauts eyes burned.

Why didn’t the space shuttle go to the moon?

50 plus years folks!!!

They’re making us out to be fools by continuing this farce and obscene cost to maintain the lie.

You have not a shred of evidence to make your allegations. You are slandering men who embarked on one of the most dangerous ventures of all time. I wonder who is the real fool here.

 

[ZNP]

Yes. The Russians also grabbed German scientists and some went to Britain.

You asserted that only lead could shield the astronauts. This is not true. Nuclear radiation differs from cosmic radiation.

Neil Armstrong: died aged 82
Buzz Aldrin: still alive, 93
Alan Bean, died at 86
Edgar Mitchell also 86
David Scott, still alive, 91
Charles Conrad died at 69
James Irwin died at 61
Alan Shepard died at 74.

Space does not seem to have bothered these men that much.

Yes, the question is why?

Also many things can protect you from radiation, concrete or water or sand for example. But lead would be the most compact and least expensive protection, which is why we use lead in many applications where we want to protect from radiation.

 

[Gideon300]

if you ever turn a critical eye on this whole program, the whole thing will seem silly

The only silliness here is the conspiracy theory that the lunar landings were faked.

 

[Gideon300]

Yes, the question is why?

Also many things can protect you from radiation, concrete or water or sand for example. But lead would be the most compact and least expensive protection, which is why we use lead in many applications where we want to protect from radiation.

Lead/concrete/water/sand are suitable for fixed structures that may be exposed for years. There are other materials that are acceptable for short term use. I never had to decontaminate for real the ship I served on, thank God. There were exercises using nuclear sources. Protective suits were provided. They were not made of of 6" of lead. There was a time limit for exposure and we had to wear a film badge. When the film went black, it was time to go. The suits we had were good for 30 minutes, assuming serious contamination from a nuclear blast. The suits given to astronauts are rather better made and designed for weeks, not days of use.

 

[ZNP]

Lead/concrete/water/sand are suitable for fixed structures that may be exposed for years. There are other materials that are acceptable for short term use. I never had to decontaminate for real the ship I served on, thank God. There were exercises using nuclear sources. Protective suits were provided. They were not made of of 6" of lead. There was a time limit for exposure and we had to wear a film badge. When the film went black, it was time to go. The suits we had were good for 30 minutes, assuming serious contamination from a nuclear blast. The suits given to astronauts are rather better made and designed for weeks, not days of use.

Was the time limit 195 hours? When you went into these places did you wear a helmet because astronauts are always portrayed as not wearing helmets in the spaceship.

 

[Gideon300]

I understand how you feel about this. But I used to Fly when I was Younger. I was an F 4 Phantom Tech in The USMC. I held a Turn Up/Taxi Cert. My first Job in Civilian life was as an FAA Loadmaster for an Airline. Then worked for Bell Aerospace. Then went GS. After I retired I was bored. So I went to work for a Military Contractor(Classified till I die). I retired from that 2 months ago. Ever read about a Bomber in WWII losing an Engine or two and throwing everything out the doors to reduce weight? Weight is critical. Yes I believe it. What Blows my mind is that They survived. Ive read books that the Astronauts and their Wives wrote about their experiences. I believe God Himself was involved in the Apollo Program. Just like every War this Nation has Fought. The USA and all it has done is Impossible. No one would believe any of it, if it was just a movie. The USA is a Miracle of God. I Believe it. My Family is one of the Founding Families of this Nation. We have all the Bibles with all the Births and Marriages since 1652 when we came here. I am Humbled and very upset by what these people have done with all our work. See You in Thailand

These people who believe that the lunar landings were faked are much like the Flat Earthers. There is nothing you can say to convince them that they are wrong. Doubt is one thing, and that is OK. But they go much further. Calling people liars with no evidence whatsoever is unspiritual.

 

[Gideon300]

Was the time limit 195 hours? When you went into these places did you wear a helmet because astronauts are always portrayed as not wearing helmets in the spaceship.

Not helmets, a kind of hood that was sealed in place. Time limit was 30 minutes. The astronauts did not wear helmets in the ship because they have air to breathe. The skin of the ship provides protection against cosmic rays. The oldest satellite in space has been there for around 65 years. Solar radiation will break it down eventually.

 

[gb9]

These people who believe that the lunar landings were faked are much like the Flat Earthers. There is nothing you can say to convince them that they are wrong. Doubt is one thing, and that is OK. But they go much further. Calling people liars with no evidence whatsoever is unspiritual.

and that is why i have limited interaction with them . it is talking to a wall.

as much as you and i disagree about many things, i do see your points.

but, they just have merry go round talking points...

 

[ZNP]

Not helmets, a kind of hood that was sealed in place. Time limit was 30 minutes. The astronauts did not wear helmets in the ship because they have air to breathe. The skin of the ship provides protection against cosmic rays. The oldest satellite in space has been there for around 65 years. Solar radiation will break it down eventually.

Dangerous Passage
Space radiation poses a concern not just on the surface, but on the round-trip journey. Around Earth, there are hazardous radiation rings, the Van Allen Belts, consisting of highly charged particles captured by the planet’s magnetic fields. The more time spent passing through these belts, the greater the risk of radiation poisoning.

There are two radiation rings. The first one starts at a height of 600 km and extends to 6,000 km. The second deadly ring stretches from between 10,000 and 65,000 kilometers above Earth. The intensity of the latter only gets worse as solar storms rage. Thankfully the Space Station remains untouched and shielded in low-Earth Orbit at 230 miles, but though our lunar spacecraft are designed to shield their crew, the flood of lethal particles can still seep inside.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scie...ation remains,particles can still seep inside.