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cv5

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sounds more like a quantum infinite improbability drive, tbh.
however tuned to avoid the random appearance of whales in stratospheres.


but if you believe He was subject to natural law and these things were clever manipulations of matter, not sovereign power over all that exists, haven't you stripped Him of His deity and called Him a magician rather than a miracle worker?
BTW, I have always thought that the miracle of the calming of the storm was the most remarkable other than resurrections or healings. All for the benefit of the disciples. Its good to be a disciple, a real one.
 

posthuman

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If people choose not to believe the FLAT HORIZONTAL HORIZON THEY CAN SEE, how can we expect these same people to choose to believe in God they can not see?
mhmm we are supposed to ignore the sunrise and sunset??
 

posthuman

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BTW, I have always thought that the miracle of the calming of the storm was the most remarkable other than resurrections or healings. All for the benefit of the disciples. Its good to be a disciple, a real one.
do you think it's because He has great command of physics, as though subject to nature and unable to break natural law or because He is the one whose word is law, demonstrating authority over creation itself?
 

posthuman

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You have a consistent habit of putting words in my mouth. Very consistent. No, Jesus was and is Lord of creation without restrictions or limitations other than those Self imposed.
all i did was ask a question
 

posthuman

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Jesus was and is Lord of creation without restrictions or limitations other than those Self imposed.
demonstrating subservience to nature or authority over it?
 

cv5

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do you think it's because He has great command of physics, as though subject to nature and unable to break natural law or because He is the one whose word is law, demonstrating authority over creation itself?
Ineffable inscrutable mastery over all creation. And law as well.
Oh yes, Lordship and mastery over the spiritual realm as well. The domain of hell also.
 

posthuman

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How in the world did you ever come up with that? Lol.
you were saying His miracles sounded like whatever unconventional physics it is you believe in.
which sounds to me as though you thought the things He did somehow corroborate your view of nature. if His powerful works in some way provide evidence of a certain physics, the implication is that He was working under a law greater than His own authority - i.e. subservient to natural law - such that He wasn't actually performing miracles, which by definition defy natural explanation, being instead supernatural. if supernatural then He demonstrates authority over the creation. if limited by natural law ((as suggested by the idea that the works corroborate some deterministic physics)) then He is demonstrating by the works that He is beneath such principles, not greater than them.
 

Dino246

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The snow in this picture gives away the truth of it... it was taken from a polar location in high summer, when the sun doesn't actually go down for a couple of weeks. The previous photos are captured the same way.

Really... this is so disingenuous as to be fairly called LYING.
 

cv5

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The snow in this picture gives away the truth of it... it was taken from a polar location in high summer, when the sun doesn't actually go down for a couple of weeks. The previous photos are captured the same way.

Really... this is so disingenuous as to be fairly called LYING.
Trolling and hoaxing.
 
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posthuman

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if you are wondering why the sun doesn't have any more than a negligible change of diameter in the other memes the same person just posted, it's because this meme has a picture with big lens flare it's measuring instead of actually measuring the disc of the sun.