I.C.E. vs Mark 9;42 & Matt18;6

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Musicus

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Regarding children; "If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who belong to me--to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drown in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18: 6 NIV

What's that say about Immigrations & customs enforcement??
First, yes, you took Matthew 18:6 out of context, but I think it shows a distinction that children must be protected, and I think that's sort of more what you mean, no? Take special care of orphans and widows etc.

Regarding the Central American migrant caravans, some facts seem to be in order, from more reliable sources than I'm seeing above.
The caravans are staged to begin with. https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/04/03/caravans-of-immigrants/ (please don't confuse this group Pueblo Sin Fronteras, literaly People Without Borders, with the group of the same English name based in the US)

But the reasons they are doing this are real. https://www.insightcrime.org/images/PDFs/2015/HondurasGangs.pdf and https://www.thedialogue.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FinalDraft_ChildMigrants_81314.pdf

And the reasons these countries have these gang problems is partly the US's fault. https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

I'm not picking on Obama. This is just 1 part of the cause. Also, many of the photos circulating on the web being passed off as recent are old photos from a 2014 shoot. http://bluepillsheep.com/more-photos-from-obama-warehousing-illegal-immigrants-in-2014/

I don't have a political axe to grind here, just looking to clarify some of this. It's an important issue, imho.
 

Musicus

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Actually the reports about internment camps are false and pure propaganda. Those kids are being given better care than a lot of children of actual citizens.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ving-than-13m-impoverished-american-children/

But the proper procedure would be this:

1. TOTALLY BLOCK ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS FROM ENTERING THE COUNTRY

2. IF THEY SOMEHOW VIOLATE THE BORDER, ARREST THE ADULTS AND DEPORT THEM IMMEDIATELY (WITH ALL FAMILY MEMBERS)

3. PUT THEIR GOVERNMENTS ON NOTICE THAT THEY WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND ALL AID FUNDS WILL BE CUT OFF

4. PUT MEXICO ON NOTICE THAT THE BORDER WILL BE PERMANENTLY SHUT DOWN UNLESS THEY PREVENT MIGRANT INVASION FROM THEIR SIDE

5. BUILD THAT WALL PROPERLY AND THEN MONITOR IT PROPERLY 24/7

This whole issue about babies and mothers would not even arise if the existing immigration laws were strictly applied
. Illegal immigrants are essentially law-breakers -- criminals -- whether they bring little children to garner sympathy or not. If someone can be imprisoned for a few grams of narcotics, then why should illegals be given privileges over legal immigrants?

Also, the Central American countries have billions of narco-dollars. Which means that all their citizens could be looked after if they wished to look after them. There must be ways and means to convince them to do the right thing.
You don't seem to know what's going on, tantamount to cranial silica entombment, so I won't address most of what you said. But what I bolded and underlined above is exceptionally dim viewed. These issues still exist around the world, and it is still on Christians to do something about it, no matter where around the world we find it.
 

calibob

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First, yes, you took Matthew 18:6 out of context, but I think it shows a distinction that children must be protected, and I think that's sort of more what you mean, no? Take special care of orphans and widows etc.

Regarding the Central American migrant caravans, some facts seem to be in order, from more reliable sources than I'm seeing above.
The caravans are staged to begin with. https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/04/03/caravans-of-immigrants/ (please don't confuse this group Pueblo Sin Fronteras, literaly People Without Borders, with the group of the same English name based in the US)

But the reasons they are doing this are real. https://www.insightcrime.org/images/PDFs/2015/HondurasGangs.pdf and https://www.thedialogue.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FinalDraft_ChildMigrants_81314.pdf

And the reasons these countries have these gang problems is partly the US's fault. https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

I'm not picking on Obama. This is just 1 part of the cause. Also, many of the photos circulating on the web being passed off as recent are old photos from a 2014 shoot. http://bluepillsheep.com/more-photos-from-obama-warehousing-illegal-immigrants-in-2014/

I don't have a political axe to grind here, just looking to clarify some of this. It's an important issue, imho.

Your first paragraph is correct completely, I quoted Matt 18:6 because it was fresh in my mind from another post and you did understand the point I was trying to make. I agree with everything you said except, I tried to look up cranial silica entombment in my Langenscheidt medical dictionary, I you are trying to say I have my head in the sand you may be 1/2 right because I only know what I see on You tube and I don't watch Fox.