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Yahshua

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Bear with me as I unpack this visually. The following are ancient maps created by different cartographers between 1600-1800 AD as they would plot the locations of resources and people groups during exploration. Quickly you'll see why this belongs in the Conspiracy Room, and hopefully you'll begin helping to spread this information and remove Satan's deception.

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Notice the area I've marked in red on the screenshot below:

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(Published 1747, Emanuel Bowen; London)
https://www.vintage-maps.com/en/antique-maps/africa/bowen-africa-1747::1257

This is a screenshot of West Africa. If you visit the link and click on the map, you can zoom in and read that the name of the area is "Widah". It was also known as the "Slave Coast" during the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade.

Now we can assume Emanuel Bowen - as well as other cartographers - did their best to phonetically spell what they heart others say, because this same location is also spelled "Whidah", and "Whydah". The French called this same place "Ouidah" as a translation of its name, so this is most likely what the English first heard. Meanwhile the Dutch called this area "Fida". But what's interesting is what "Ouidah" means...


Ouidah (/ˈwiːdə/) or Whydah (ˈhwɪdə, Yoruba: Xwéda; Ouidah, Juida, and Juda by the French
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouidah



Notice the area I've marked in red on the next screenshot below:

1747Africa_Emanuel_bowen2.jpg

(Published 1747, Emanuel Bowen; London)
https://www.vintage-maps.com/en/antique-maps/africa/bowen-western-africa-1747::1256

This next map is also of West Africa. It was Bowen offering further detail of "Negroland". If you visit this map you'll notice that the slave coast is called "Whidah" as mentioned above, but it's also literally known as "The Km. Of Judah". The Portuguese even called this area "Ajuda". Is this a strange coincidence? Why would the Slave Coast be called the Kingdom of Judah?

I can only speculate as to how "Ouidah" means "Judah" - maybe because "Oui" in French is "yea" or "yes" and the letter "J" was still pronounced as a "y" back then - but there's no doubting that Bowen's map says the so called slave coast was known as the Kingdom of Judah.


I've marked the next screenshot in red also:

1600s_(french)map_byG.DeL'Isle.jpg

(Published 1600s, G.DeL'Isle)
https://www.sanderusmaps.com/detail.cfm?c=6659

Again this is West Africa. And again this ancient map gives a name for the area: "Re De Juda". I don't know what "Re" means but "de Juda" means "of Juda". So maybe it means "realm" or "royal estate" (of Juda). Either way here's another nation's cartographer noting the same name for the area. Was this are THEE Kingdom of Judah??



Here's yet another ancient map of West Africa. Note the name underlined in Red:

1743HommanHeirs_map(judah).jpg

(Published 1743, Homman Heirs)
https://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/AfricaPropria-homannheirs-1743

Circled in red are the names Judah and Benin. I also circled "Benin" because it's interesting that there's a land with the name "Ben" close to a land called Judah as Biblically we know that the tribe of Benjamin went with the Kingdom of Judah and stayed within Judah even through the time of Christ. Benin is even a very close version of Benjamin, only missing the middle syllable "jam".

Why would these different map-makers have any motive to lie about the name of this land? This is a visual testimony of 3 different witnesses showing the same thing.

Is it plausible to have this land be known as "Kingdom of Judah" between 1600 and 1700 AD? Well the temple was destroyed (and the Jews were scattered) in 70AD; so could a people who fled Jerusalem have migrated 4000 miles westward into West Africa in 1500+ years? So yes, it's very possible.


In fact, please see the next map (click link and then zoom in):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rQdei8fxfVc6bNTIE_PTlnqrCpCkyCHJ/view?usp=sharing

(Published 1766, Sr. Danville under the patronage of Duke of Orleans, improved by Mr. Bolton)
https://libweb5.princeton.edu/visua...frica/african-association/bolton-1766-map.jpg


If you zoom into this ancient map of Africa you'll notice that each area circled in red shows areas where Bolton noted Jews were living. While my blue arrow what we can extrapolate was the migration pattern of those Jews if we assume their migration began in Jerusalem. Please follow the link from Princeton to show the original map unaltered.

Areas I've highlighted on my copy of the map:

- (south of Egypt) "Shankala: Wandering Tribes; Falasjam Jews exiled"

- (westward of Shankala) "Lamlem: According to Edrifsi the land hereabout was peopled by Jews"

- (south of Lamlem) "Km. of Dahomey: Trudo Audati subdued the states of Ardra and Widah (Judah)."



So, if the Jews did wander westward into Africa to found a new kingdom of Judah 1500 years after the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem, what happened to them? Well in Luke 21 Christ said the Jews would be sent away as captives/slaves into all nations. And there's only one group of people who's been sent away as slaves into every nation.

Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade
slavetrade2.jpg

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Why doesn't prophecy seem to fit the people currently in the land of Israel? Could it be because there's a plot to hide the truth? How many people know this information? Can you see why this is a conspiracy? It's probably the greatest conspiracy on earth since we know many prophecies that are to be fulfilled surround the Jews.

In the bible discussion room I posted the following reply listing why those who claim to be Jewish can't possibly be the true Jews of scripture (with all do respect to them): http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/166567-who-has-right-called-jew-3.html#post3578263. And this is the historic proof to confirm it.


Satan has deceived all of us.
 
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AuntieAnt

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Because of the never-ending conspiracy theories popping up all over the internet, this one doesn't surprise me in the least. And to be honest, as intriguing as this all sounds, what difference does it really make who is a jew by blood? This is yet another deceptive avenue for the devil to turn our eyes off of Jesus and focus us on the outward man and the cares of this life.

Romans 2:29 - But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 

Yahshua

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Because of the never-ending conspiracy theories popping up all over the internet, this one doesn't surprise me in the least. And to be honest, as intriguing as this all sounds, what difference does it really make who is a jew by blood? This is yet another deceptive avenue for the devil to turn our eyes off of Jesus and focus us on the outward man and the cares of this life.

Romans 2:29 - But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter, whose praise is not of men, but of God.
The rest of Romans makes it important I think.

Romans 11

25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”

28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
 
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Ok, but what does any of Romans 11 have to do with a conspiracy theory? :confused:
 

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I have no idea what the point of your OP is. Way too much information to absorb and analyze.
 
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it's 'never' to be confused with 'skin-color', it's ALWAYS about the HEART...
 

Yahshua

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I have no idea what the point of your OP is. Way too much information to absorb and analyze.
Just take your time. I promise you it'll be worth absorbing.
 

Yahshua

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it's 'never' to be confused with 'skin-color', it's ALWAYS about the HEART...
Amen. I believe this is why there will only be 144000. Only a remnant is needed for the Most High to keep his promises to Israel.
 

Yahshua

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Ok, but what does any of Romans 11 have to do with a conspiracy theory? :confused:
The blindness Israel is experiencing (which Paul explains is beneficial to gentiles in Romans 11:25) has very much to do with the following conspiracy prophesied in Psalm 83:


1 {A Song or Psalm of Asaph.} Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:



It's literally the conspiracy Yah prophesied to happen; the conspiracy to cause the people to forget who they are.
 

maxwel

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I have no idea what the point of your OP is. Way too much information to absorb and analyze.
I think he's trying to say, in a very roundabout way, that black West Africans are the lost tribes of Israel, who eventually wound up on slave ships coming to the U.S., and which now compromise all the blacks in the U.S.... meaning that all blacks in the U.S. are the "real" jews, and thus they are God's special chosen people awaiting all the prophecies given to Israel.

This isn't new.

I think just about every ethnic group, including many caucasians, have claimed to be the lost tribes of Israel.
 
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Yahshua

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The reason why this is important is because Paul suggests that it's the Most High receiving Israel again which will result in the resurrection of the dead, which we all hope for right? So that necessitates (true) Israel's blindness being reversed and them returning to the Lord.

Romans 11:15
For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?


Deuteronomy 30:1-6
1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee,

2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.

4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.


6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.


The first step is to show (through the historical maps in the OP) that the so call "slave coast" was originally known as the "Kingdom of Judah"; that the real Jews migrated to West Africa before fulfilling Luke 21:24 with their slavery into all the nations of the world.
 

Yahshua

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I think he's trying to say, in a very roundabout way, that black West Africans are the lost tribes of Israel, who eventually wound up on slave ships coming to the U.S., and which now compromise all the blacks in the U.S.... meaning that all blacks in the U.S. are the "real" jews, and thus they are God's special chosen people awaiting all the prophecies given to Israel.

This isn't new.

I think just about every ethnic group, including many caucasians, have claimed to be the lost tribes of Israel.
Except, there are very old maps made by English, French and Dutch who didn't have a dog in the fight so to say that testify to the same thing. Unless it's all a coincidence?

Anyone can claim it but isn't it about how man historical facts line up with the prophecies written in scripture? Objectively no other group lines up scripturally & historically.
 
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Yahshua

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I mean it's amazing just how many prophecies line up when you insert the people of West Africa as the children of Judah. For instance, Zephaniah was a prophet in the Kingdom of Judah during the reign of Josiah. While they were in Judah, he prophesied against Judah's idol worship and foretold of this...

Zephaniah 3:10
From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my worshipers, my dispersed (or scattered) ones, will bring my offerings.


Now I know personally I've read right over this text many times, but notice where the rivers of Ethiopia are:

rivers_of_ethipia.jpg

...If there's someone in Judea while Zephaniah was prophesying against them, they'd consider the land beyond the rivers of Ethiopia to mean to the west of those rivers, which is West Africa (since those rivers are to the west of Judea). So Zephaniah literally prophesied Judah would worship Yah in West Africa the future.

Does that make sense or am I reaching?
 

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Amen. I believe this is why there will only be 144000. Only a remnant is needed for the Most High to keep his promises to Israel.
Salvation is through Jesus. There have been thousands of Jews that have believed in him starting with the twelve apostles
I believe the 144000 is a symbolic number. Those who talk of all Israel being saved never clarify who they think Israel is.
There are millions of Jews living outside modern Israel are they all going to suddenly convert and be saved or is it only those who physically live in modern Israel? As I understand it Christ is the embodiment of Israel so all who are in him are part of Israel.
 

Yahshua

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Salvation is through Jesus. There have been thousands of Jews that have believed in him starting with the twelve apostles
I believe the 144000 is a symbolic number. Those who talk of all Israel being saved never clarify who they think Israel is.
There are millions of Jews living outside modern Israel are they all going to suddenly convert and be saved or is it only those who physically live in modern Israel? As I understand it Christ is the embodiment of Israel so all who are in him are part of Israel.
But what I'm referring to in my reply isn't "salvation" (i.e. belief in Christ) but "remembering who they are" as a people. The issue I'm addressing in this conspiracy thread is the "blindness in part", which I no longer believe is an issue of "accepting or rejecting of Christ as the Jewish people's savior".

"What is Israel partly blind to", is the question I think I've discovered the true answer to...and I think that answer is: "Israel is partly blind to their true identity of actually being Israel proper - the true people of the book - who are currently living lives as gentile believers in Christ, while those who believe themselves to be descendants Jews or Jewish or Israel - currently living lives as such either in Israel or outside of it - are actually gentiles."

I think the big conspiracy is that there's been a big swap of Identities.

So yes you're right that there have been thousands of people - who call themselves "Jews" - who have believed in Christ. Prophecy surrounding the ushering in of peace should've been fulfilled once they returned to the land (Isaiah 11), but there's been nothing but bloodshed. Consider for a moment; how could the prophecy of peace ever be fulfilled if the people currently in the land aren't actually the people that prophecy refers to?

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The premise we've followed for so long as believers is the ideas that those who are currently in the land - and those who identify as Jewish or descendant Jews - are actually the true people of the book; that 1948 was fulfillment of prophecy, and that partial blindness spoken of by Paul in Romans 11 means the Jewish people deny Christ.

...But what if this premise isn't true? I've recently found strong evidence (like some I've shared in the OP) to believe that these things ideas may not be accurate.

I'm now led to believe that those who descend from West African slavery - still spread all over the world - are the true people of the book...and they've lost their identity.
 

Yahshua

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Here's some more interesting information I've found...

It's common knowledge to biblical students that it was Hebrew tradition to name a child based on that child's purpose or his/her strong features or characteristics. We also know that many people in the scriptures were given names containing the name of the living God, which we know to be "Yah" (at least in its short poetic form).

Many of the following biblical names are purposely spelled to expose the name of Yah which was added:

Eliyah
Isayah
Jeremyah
Zephanyah
Yahushua
Yahuchanan
Michayah
Hannanyah
Azaryah
Obadyah
Zecharyah
Abiyah
Haggyah
Hezekyah
Nehemyah
Uzzyah
Uryah
...etc, etc.

Well what are the odds that hundreds upon hundreds of slaves would have similar names recorded in manifests when they were loaded into their slave ships? Names that contain the name of Yah.

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African Names
Use the filter feature to the left to search for names containing "Yah".