IF YOU TOOK THE SHOT YOU HAVE GENETICALLY CHANGED YOU BODY FOREVER

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ZNP

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Okay I see that you didn’t answer any of my questions and went straight into the Bible.
So let’s talk about the Bible or more importantly, YOUR interpretation of the Bible.

How do you reconcile all of the above with this:

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”
That verse is directly in line with the Galilean wedding. The groom proposes and if the bride accepts he has two years to build a place for them to live at his father's house. It is up to the father to determine when it is done so no one knows when the day will be but the father. This aligns with the Lord's word that you would not see Him again until you say "Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord" -- the week before the wedding the groom will be asked to read from the Bible during the sabbath meeting and when he comes to speak the congregation says "Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord". This also aligns with the Lord's word that he would not drink of the vine again with us until we drink it anew in the kingdom. During the engagement if the bride accepts they drink wine on it and they don't drink again until the wedding.

However, a bride can still visit her betrothed while he builds the place, she can see that "the day is approaching". While he is working she can bring him a sandwich and some lemonade. She might just notice the carpet is being put in or some other sign that they are almost done.

Also, Jesus said it would be like the days of Noah and Noah was given a 7 day warning, entering the ark 7 days before the flood began. It was when Methuselah died, and that was a prophesy concerning the flood. So there were prophesies being fulfilled which indicated the flood was about to take place.

Jesus also said it would be like Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot was also given a warning a few hours before fire fell to flee the city.

The NT likens the Lord's return to three different things where "we don't know the day or the hour".

1. The birth of a child. Even though you don't know the day or the hour you can see the day approaching, there are signs, and you have "birth pains" which will be a warning. The NT tells us very specifically what to look for concerning the "birth pains". The fact that you don't know the day or hour is why you must pay careful attention to these signs and watch even closer.

2. The harvesting of a crop. The farmer does not know the day or the hour that would be best to harvest, that is why he must be watching the crop every day, watching the weather report, watching the sale price of grain, etc. Not knowing the day or hour is not an excuse to not watch, on the contrary it is why we must watch.

3. A thief coming in the night. Again, this is why we have night watchmen. The Lord's word means we must watch, not an excuse to not watch.
 

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i personnaly believe the shot is maybe, intentionally harmful, untested, unapproved & deliberately devised to eliminate people. the top & bottom line of this whole thing is even if it changes dna forever, there's no job to big or to small for Jesus. just ask Him to completely remove, forever, all harmful effects of the shot & covid & you're all set!!!!
 

Eli1

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That verse is directly in line with the Galilean wedding. The groom proposes and if the bride accepts he has two years to build a place for them to live at his father's house. It is up to the father to determine when it is done so no one knows when the day will be but the father. This aligns with the Lord's word that you would not see Him again until you say "Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord" -- the week before the wedding the groom will be asked to read from the Bible during the sabbath meeting and when he comes to speak the congregation says "Blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord". This also aligns with the Lord's word that he would not drink of the vine again with us until we drink it anew in the kingdom. During the engagement if the bride accepts they drink wine on it and they don't drink again until the wedding.

However, a bride can still visit her betrothed while he builds the place, she can see that "the day is approaching". While he is working she can bring him a sandwich and some lemonade. She might just notice the carpet is being put in or some other sign that they are almost done.

Also, Jesus said it would be like the days of Noah and Noah was given a 7 day warning, entering the ark 7 days before the flood began. It was when Methuselah died, and that was a prophesy concerning the flood. So there were prophesies being fulfilled which indicated the flood was about to take place.

Jesus also said it would be like Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot was also given a warning a few hours before fire fell to flee the city.

The NT likens the Lord's return to three different things where "we don't know the day or the hour".

1. The birth of a child. Even though you don't know the day or the hour you can see the day approaching, there are signs, and you have "birth pains" which will be a warning. The NT tells us very specifically what to look for concerning the "birth pains". The fact that you don't know the day or hour is why you must pay careful attention to these signs and watch even closer.

2. The harvesting of a crop. The farmer does not know the day or the hour that would be best to harvest, that is why he must be watching the crop every day, watching the weather report, watching the sale price of grain, etc. Not knowing the day or hour is not an excuse to not watch, on the contrary it is why we must watch.

3. A thief coming in the night. Again, this is why we have night watchmen. The Lord's word means we must watch, not an excuse to not watch.
Okay, I am going to say that I generally agree with most of your interpretation here and I’m not going to pick them apart to show where I disagree because it’s a waste of time for you and me at this point in our lives.
So, in general I agree with your message And I’m being very generous here.

Now the question is : What do you get trying to link everything to a doomsday scenario when also according to your interpretation you won’t know the exact date?
What do you personally get out of this?
Also when you make false predications like a few others here have pointed out (Lynx) included, then what do you say to yourself?
Do you learn from that or do you say “oh darn it let me try again with new mental gymnastics“. Would you objectively see this as more of an obsession as opposed to spiritual edification or joy and hope in the Lord?

Because EndTimes for me would be sort of a relief. Finally, God is here among us.
So, what do you get out of this?
 

Eli1

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i personnaly believe the shot is maybe, intentionally harmful, untested, unapproved & deliberately devised to eliminate people. the top & bottom line of this whole thing is even if it changes dna forever, there's no job to big or to small for Jesus. just ask Him to completely remove, forever, all harmful effects of the shot & covid & you're all set!!!!
Karlton, why do you think “they” want to eliminate people with a vaccine?
How do you reason this in your mind? What’s the reason and goal?

Thanks.
 

ZNP

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Okay, I am going to say that I generally agree with most of your interpretation here and I’m not going to pick them apart to show where I disagree because it’s a waste of time for you and me at this point in our lives.
So, in general I agree with your message And I’m being very generous here.

Now the question is : What do you get trying to link everything to a doomsday scenario when also according to your interpretation you won’t know the exact date?
What do you personally get out of this?
Also when you make false predications like a few others here have pointed out (Lynx) included, then what do you say to yourself?
Do you learn from that or do you say “oh darn it let me try again with new mental gymnastics“. Would you objectively see this as more of an obsession as opposed to spiritual edification or joy and hope in the Lord?

Because EndTimes for me would be sort of a relief. Finally, God is here among us.
So, what do you get out of this?
I have made it so that I have 0 financial interest. I don't use Youtube or anything that is "monetized". I post here on my blog free and I don't advertise. I do not want anyone to think there is a financial interest in my posts or my blog.

I believe that I post in response to the Lord's burden.

I do not have all the answers. I do eliminate 65-80% of what I read or see and do not repost or reshare.

However, I do reshare some posts and these are not my posts. I share the links because I feel everyone needs to know what is being said in them. For example, predictive programming. This is something I had no idea about, learned about it on various youtube videos and I felt it was important to share. I don't think that predictive programming is "prophetic" in the way the Bible is prophetic. Instead I believe after considering this for over a year, that the FreeMasons and those in power tell you ahead of time what they are planning on doing to make it appear they are prophetic. This is why they use shows like the Simpsons because they can make it appear absurd and a joke only for the most moronic portion of our population to start thinking they can discern the future by watching the Simpsons. I have said this in my blog.

I do not think that Dana Coverstone's dreams are prophetic, I think they are warnings advising us what to pray about. Time will tell. I understand that people are so eager to find a date that when they see him refer to "November" they jump on that as though that must refer to a specific year. That said it doesn't matter to me what someone thinks about Dana Coverstone's dreams or the guy who goes deep on predictive programming. I share links from people who are doing things that I am not.

My focus and all of my posts are on the word of God. They are interpretative, just as every other preacher on the word of God speaks. I was not interested in "when", I was interested in everything else. I felt that this topic focused on the when while ignoring everything else. Like Peter said, I wanted to know everything about those days that would be the signs telling us the day of the Lord approaches. I don't pretend to have all the answers and regularly post links to various messages that I may not agree with but realize it is one possible interpretation of the word of God.

There are other topics that I did not research, only reshared links: concerning the Antichrist, concerning the worship of Moloch, concerning FreeMasons, concerning the Biblical calendar, etc.
 

ZNP

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Now the question is : What do you get trying to link everything to a doomsday scenario when also according to your interpretation you won’t know the exact date?
I used to be a stock broker and I had a great track record of being right. I discovered it is not that hard to pick winners and losers. I think I was 100%, I can think of many, many winners I picked, many losers I rejected and cannot think of a single time I picked a loser.

That said it is very hard to time stocks.

Now I was told by the Lord I would see his return fifty years ago. I learned many years ago to stop worrying about when and to focus on what I need to know to pass the test.

Luke 21 is the chapter where the disciples ask the Lord what signs they need to see concerning his coming, what they should look for. However, Luke begins the chapter by telling us what the Lord will be looking for. That is one example of the things I am looking for, what I need to know and do to pass this test.

This test will only be a "doomsday" for those who fail it. If you pass the test it will be glory hallelujah day.
 

Eli1

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I have made it so that I have 0 financial interest. I don't use Youtube or anything that is "monetized". I post here on my blog free and I don't advertise. I do not want anyone to think there is a financial interest in my posts or my blog.

I believe that I post in response to the Lord's burden.

I do not have all the answers. I do eliminate 65-80% of what I read or see and do not repost or reshare.

However, I do reshare some posts and these are not my posts. I share the links because I feel everyone needs to know what is being said in them. For example, predictive programming. This is something I had no idea about, learned about it on various youtube videos and I felt it was important to share. I don't think that predictive programming is "prophetic" in the way the Bible is prophetic. Instead I believe after considering this for over a year, that the FreeMasons and those in power tell you ahead of time what they are planning on doing to make it appear they are prophetic. This is why they use shows like the Simpsons because they can make it appear absurd and a joke only for the most moronic portion of our population to start thinking they can discern the future by watching the Simpsons. I have said this in my blog.

I do not think that Dana Coverstone's dreams are prophetic, I think they are warnings advising us what to pray about. Time will tell. I understand that people are so eager to find a date that when they see him refer to "November" they jump on that as though that must refer to a specific year. That said it doesn't matter to me what someone thinks about Dana Coverstone's dreams or the guy who goes deep on predictive programming. I share links from people who are doing things that I am not.

My focus and all of my posts are on the word of God. They are interpretative, just as every other preacher on the word of God speaks. I was not interested in "when", I was interested in everything else. I felt that this topic focused on the when while ignoring everything else. Like Peter said, I wanted to know everything about those days that would be the signs telling us the day of the Lord approaches. I don't pretend to have all the answers and regularly post links to various messages that I may not agree with but realize it is one possible interpretation of the word of God.

There are other topics that I did not research, only reshared links: concerning the Antichrist, concerning the worship of Moloch, concerning FreeMasons, concerning the Biblical calendar, etc.
All right, this generally sounds like a sincere thought even tho you didn’t address how do you handle the fact when your predictions don’t match reality and went over several topics which I also consider conspiracy theories.
‘But in general your message has a sincerity which I appreciate. I know somewhere deep down in you there is a reasonable person because you also help children in Africa but you also don’t seem to realize how the internet has affected you who also claim to be a school teacher. I hope you weren’t like this to those kids in schools. Lol . Cos this is why some people live Christianity , when they encounter people with your type of mentality.
With this being said, you interjected yourself into the topic of WHEN, after I made my comment to the OP that “nobody knows when”.
So since we both agree now that “nobody knows when” we’re all good and continue our internet journey. :coffee:
 

Eli1

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I used to be a stock broker and I had a great track record of being right. I discovered it is not that hard to pick winners and losers. I think I was 100%, I can think of many, many winners I picked, many losers I rejected and cannot think of a single time I picked a loser.

That said it is very hard to time stocks.

Now I was told by the Lord I would see his return fifty years ago. I learned many years ago to stop worrying about when and to focus on what I need to know to pass the test.

Luke 21 is the chapter where the disciples ask the Lord what signs they need to see concerning his coming, what they should look for. However, Luke begins the chapter by telling us what the Lord will be looking for. That is one example of the things I am looking for, what I need to know and do to pass this test.
Aha so now you told me something I didn’t know about you. Stock broker eh? Lol
So, stock broker, school teacher, internet enthusiast?

I understand you a bit more now.
 

ZNP

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All right, this generally sounds like a sincere thought even tho you didn’t address how do you handle the fact when your predictions don’t match reality and went over several topics which I also consider conspiracy theories.
‘But in general your message has a sincerity which I appreciate. I know somewhere deep down in you there is a reasonable person because you also help children in Africa but you also don’t seem to realize how the internet has affected you who also claim to be a school teacher. I hope you weren’t like this to those kids in schools. Lol . Cos this is why some people live Christianity , when they encounter people with your type of mentality.
With this being said, you interjected yourself into the topic of WHEN, after I made my comment to the OP that “nobody knows when”.
So since we both agree now that “nobody knows when” we’re all good and continue our internet journey. :coffee:
The difference is that some Christians take "nobody knows when" as an excuse to not watch, others, like myself, take it as a charge that we must therefore watch (which is what the Lord said and for some reason everyone neglects to quote that part).

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
 

Eli1

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The difference is that some Christians take "nobody knows when" as an excuse to not watch, others, like myself, take it as a charge that we must therefore watch (which is what the Lord said and for some reason everyone neglects to quote that part).

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Okay but going back to discernment here.
Watch, can be interpreted as an obsession where you’re on a castle tower all day waiting for someone to arrive and you do this your whole life. So you sort of cut yourself off from participating in society and if you do that you might as well be a monk.
Others on the other hand see EndTimes as a relief and a moment of joy beyond the culmination of existence that God is here and among us finally.

So this whole concept has a few interpretations in itself because it depends how you approach God and I know you being a Protestant are already pre-programmed (to use your language) in certain theological aspects on how you approach God.
 

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Karlton, why do you think “they” want to eliminate people with a vaccine?
How do you reason this in your mind? What’s the reason and goal?

Thanks.
listen to some of bill gates remarks concerning present & future economy. find resources to who is up to what. this may be difficult. blessedly, i had a few connections here & there & received info on some evil people. the chem trails, remember those (soros).
 

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Eli1

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listen to some of bill gates remarks concerning present & future economy. find resources to who is up to what. this may be difficult. blessedly, i had a few connections here & there & received info on some evil people. the chem trails, remember those (soros).
Karlton, do you think the answer “do some research “ is a good answer when someone asks you a question?
Usually when someone asks me a direct question i give them a direct answer which then can go into the following categories:
1. I don’t know
2. I do know, but I’m not 100% sure
3. Or, Yes I am an expert on the topic.

Tell me your reasoning and your finds basically, and if intersting then we can dive into the details of internet YouTube experts.
 

Karlon

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Karlton, do you think the answer “do some research “ is a good answer when someone asks you a question?
Usually when someone asks me a direct question i give them a direct answer which then can go into the following categories:
1. I don’t know
2. I do know, but I’m not 100% sure
3. Or, Yes I am an expert on the topic.

Tell me your reasoning and your finds basically, and if intersting then we can dive into the details of internet YouTube experts.
some sources are understood & reserved with the highest intent of security & preservation. i can not say anymore on this particular subject. it's nearly a "sworn to secrecy" issue. if you are on your way, blessings to you. hope you find all answers for your guarding, protection & security.
 

ZNP

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Okay but going back to discernment here.
Watch, can be interpreted as an obsession where you’re on a castle tower all day waiting for someone to arrive and you do this your whole life. So you sort of cut yourself off from participating in society and if you do that you might as well be a monk.
Others on the other hand see EndTimes as a relief and a moment of joy beyond the culmination of existence that God is here and among us finally.

So this whole concept has a few interpretations in itself because it depends how you approach God and I know you being a Protestant are already pre-programmed (to use your language) in certain theological aspects on how you approach God.
I have not suggested or encouraged anyone to "cut yourself off from participating in society"

Like I said I have had this view for fifty years, I still went to college, got my degrees, worked as a Stock broker and later as a teacher, and now I am writing a blog. I am active in church and part of the Gideon's ministry.

But there is a crown for those who love the Lord's appearing, and it is quite clear to me when I talk to many people they do not love the Lord's appearing, they refer to it as "doomsday".

2Timothy 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
 

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To @PennEd and @ThyKingdomComeSoon :

My son found the research fascinating. Humans were not thought to have any enzymes that were reverse transcriptase. Evidently, the mRNA activated a response in vitro where some liver cells reverted the mRNA back into DNA.
This doesn't mean the same result actually happens within the human body but definitely signals that research should be done to see if what was found in the laboratory happens in the body or not. This wouldn't be hard to do. The research could be done on cadavers. The technology already exists to test.

My son also added that even if this is so, most mutations of DNA aren't harmful or impactful. Rarely are they lethal or helpful. But further research is certainly necessary.

As far as this being done purposefully, it couldn't have been. The enzymes that causes the reverse transcriptase was only discovered last year. It must have already been present but only activated by the mRNA. But it does necessitate more and better protocols for future testing.

I put into a few paragraphs all he said. Alot of the technical stuff I didn't understand. He doesn't think it will end up being detrimental as far as altering DNA but is well aware of other adverse medical concerns. Also, he has an inquisitive mind and will no doubt investigate further. I'll update you as he fills me in.
 

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Also I remember that when these mRNA vaccines came out, many people said they no longer felt the presence of the lord! I thought it was silly when i first read about it but now i wonder....

Just to warn people that is all.
If it really was what you are claiming, no vaccinated person would feel the presence of the Lord. I don't know any vaccinated person who says that. I include myself and I can speak for my wife also. Jesus said that it is not what goes into the body that defiles us. He spoke of food, but I believe it includes medications and such. The Holy Spirit dwells in my mortal body and gives life to me continually. My God has promised never to leave me or forsake me. I see no statement, "unless you are vaccinated".

You were right first time. There is so much misinformation and so much gullibility that I am now convinced we are in the last days. Flat earthers, people who fear cell phone emissions, and whatever the latest fearmongering "expert" has to say. Jesus said, "Don't worry about what you eat". Some Christians are obsessed with diet.

There are enough real problems without making some up. Don't fall for the tinfoil hat brigade's hysteria.