Is The Earth Spinning?

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CaptainGoat

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I looked at the flat earth theory in a post that is recently posted or answered, and while I personally can't quite see it flat, I have heard another theory which to me seems far more plausible then the scientific belief we are all accustomed to believe. Bear me out on this...

A couple of years ago I was sidetracked by the Still Earth Theory. The basic theory fits well with the Biblical account of things. The earth is still (Or almost still) and everything else move around it.
Two things before I go further here I need to point out. Science pushing evolution would be dead against this theory on the bases that it explains creation and not evolution, and the second point is that the difference at the equator between the time it takes for a single revolution and the distance round the equator circumference gives an estimated speed of just a tad above or below 1000 mph. Some say 1006. Others have said 996. We shall call it 1000 to round it up.

The easiest way to see if the theory fits or not is put it to the test by what we actually see and what seems to fit what we see.
First gravity. If gravity is working because the earth spins we have strong gravity at the equator and no gravity directly at the two poles. Yet gravity actually does the opposite in the way we would expect a spinning earth would do. We know centrifugal force on a roundabout actually throws us off rather then keeps us on as the speed increases. Now trying to explain a spinning earth that keeps our feet on the ground just does not add up to me.
Now a still earth and things make sense as the universe turning around the earth is more likely to push us onto the earth then throw us off the earth.
Another interesting point to consider that works with the still earth theory but not the spinning earth theory is regarding the 1000mph speed difference between the earth and all else outside the earth. Now the point that the greatest speed difference between the part that moves at speed and the part that is still is the point where the greatest friction is likely to be. Let us have an example. A lump of rock heads for the earth. It burns up in the outer point of our earths atmosphere, not right next to the earth. We send a rocket into space and back. It needs protection due to the friction at the most outer part of the earths atmosphere. We send a weather balloon up. They burst when they touch the outer atmosphere right up high.
If the earth spins at speed then near the earths surface there would be constant high winds and friction in one single direction that the ear this spinning in. We would not expect to see changes in wind direction at all.

Now as for the other post about a flat earth? Well. We know for sure it is round as in either flat and round or ball shaped due to shadows. While I can't see it being flat myself, something strange is happening here as the aircraft routes go from either east to west or give versa. There are none going north up over the top or south round the bottom as a shorter route. Is this just due to the cold air or is it because the earth is not how it seems? Just a thought there may be more to it then it seems.

While I conclude that even if we keep to the most popular theory of the earth spins, it can be fun to stretch our minds a bit now and then can't it? After all, we won't really know for sure until the Lord returns, and does it really matter anyway? All that matters is God knows what He is doing. :)
 
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You're not a pilot, are you?
 
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Well men say a lot of things.

What does the Bible say?
 

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I believe that the Earth is spinning is 1004 miles per hour. Of course, I don't think anyone ever aimed a radar gun at it to measure the speed.
 
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I looked at the flat earth theory in a post that is recently posted or answered, and while I personally can't quite see it flat, I have heard another theory which to me seems far more plausible then the scientific belief we are all accustomed to believe. Bear me out on this...

A couple of years ago I was sidetracked by the Still Earth Theory. The basic theory fits well with the Biblical account of things. The earth is still (Or almost still) and everything else move around it.
Two things before I go further here I need to point out. Science pushing evolution would be dead against this theory on the bases that it explains creation and not evolution, and the second point is that the difference at the equator between the time it takes for a single revolution and the distance round the equator circumference gives an estimated speed of just a tad above or below 1000 mph. Some say 1006. Others have said 996. We shall call it 1000 to round it up.

The easiest way to see if the theory fits or not is put it to the test by what we actually see and what seems to fit what we see.
First gravity. If gravity is working because the earth spins we have strong gravity at the equator and no gravity directly at the two poles. Yet gravity actually does the opposite in the way we would expect a spinning earth would do. We know centrifugal force on a roundabout actually throws us off rather then keeps us on as the speed increases. Now trying to explain a spinning earth that keeps our feet on the ground just does not add up to me.
Now a still earth and things make sense as the universe turning around the earth is more likely to push us onto the earth then throw us off the earth.
Another interesting point to consider that works with the still earth theory but not the spinning earth theory is regarding the 1000mph speed difference between the earth and all else outside the earth. Now the point that the greatest speed difference between the part that moves at speed and the part that is still is the point where the greatest friction is likely to be. Let us have an example. A lump of rock heads for the earth. It burns up in the outer point of our earths atmosphere, not right next to the earth. We send a rocket into space and back. It needs protection due to the friction at the most outer part of the earths atmosphere. We send a weather balloon up. They burst when they touch the outer atmosphere right up high.
If the earth spins at speed then near the earths surface there would be constant high winds and friction in one single direction that the ear this spinning in. We would not expect to see changes in wind direction at all.

Now as for the other post about a flat earth? Well. We know for sure it is round as in either flat and round or ball shaped due to shadows. While I can't see it being flat myself, something strange is happening here as the aircraft routes go from either east to west or give versa. There are none going north up over the top or south round the bottom as a shorter route. Is this just due to the cold air or is it because the earth is not how it seems? Just a thought there may be more to it then it seems.

While I conclude that even if we keep to the most popular theory of the earth spins, it can be fun to stretch our minds a bit now and then can't it? After all, we won't really know for sure until the Lord returns, and does it really matter anyway? All that matters is God knows what He is doing. :)
Actually, both planes and ships traverse what is known as an indirect "Rhumb Line" route, or "loxodrome", somewhat to either the North or the South of a direct line of sight path across the oceans. This facilitates shorter travel distances and shorter enroute times.
 
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CaptainGoat

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No. Not a pilot but have flown in the odd car and bicycle etc... :D I do know one ex airline pilot but unfortunately he caught altzimers. Another man I know was a helicopter pilot so I could ask him when I see him what his views are, though I don't think he flew long distances at a time. He may have done though as he was in our forces. He may know why they don't go up and over...
To scriptures... God made the Earth (And the Heavens) and later made the sun, moon and stars. The Earth was the primary creation and all the rest was to compliment it. It was all made for us in mind from the beginning.
Genesis 1:1. The Earth. The first day.
Genesis 1:14. The sun, moon and stars. The forth day. (Notice how God made light also on the first day as without light how would the sun, moon and stars work?)
 
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CaptainGoat

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Thanks for clearing up about up and over the earth Willie. :)
 
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Thanks for clearing up about up and over the earth Willie. :)
Well, I didn't really clear it up. The main reason it is faster is because a properly setup Rhumb Course eliminates the need for almost constant course heading change resetting when compared to the direct route (Great Circle Course) In truth, the actual mileage is longer in a RL as opposed to a GC but the travel time is faster.
 
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So lots of stuff about what men say, not much about what the Bible says. Let every man be liar and let God be true.

If the earth is established that it does not move you should be able to find that in scripture. If the earth is spinning however fast it is spinning, that should be in scripture too.

What does the Bible say on this matter? Let that be the answer.
 
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No. Not a pilot but have flown in the odd car and bicycle etc... :D I do know one ex airline pilot but unfortunately he caught altzimers. Another man I know was a helicopter pilot so I could ask him when I see him what his views are, though I don't think he flew long distances at a time. He may have done though as he was in our forces. He may know why they don't go up and over...
To scriptures... God made the Earth (And the Heavens) and later made the sun, moon and stars. The Earth was the primary creation and all the rest was to compliment it. It was all made for us in mind from the beginning.
Genesis 1:1. The Earth. The first day.
Genesis 1:14. The sun, moon and stars. The forth day. (Notice how God made light also on the first day as without light how would the sun, moon and stars work?)
Well, your helo jockey will also know about not flying direct magnetic headings due to the shifting magnetic fields across the world, and even the country........ and the Coriolis effect (I'm sure I spelled that wrong. LOL)
 
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You may find this of interest....
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[video=youtube;0jHsq36_NTU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU[/video]
 
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Some pretty CGI images, some almost convincing sounding doctrines of men.

What does the Holy Bible say though?
 
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Some pretty CGI images, some almost convincing sounding doctrines of men.

What does the Holy Bible say though?
Don't let yourself get too carried away with trying to make a Science Textbook out of the Bible. If you took off, flying toward one of the Biblical "four corners of the Earth", you would soon find yourself pretty disappointed............. Sort of like trying to dig down to find Hell.
 
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Don't let yourself get too carried away with trying to make a Science Textbook out of the Bible. If you took off, flying toward one of the Biblical "four corners of the Earth", you would soon find yourself pretty disappointed............. Sort of like trying to dig down to find Hell.
You let the science textbook carry you away from The Bible.
 
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You let the science textbook carry you away from The Bible.
You would not possess that computer you are typing on if someone only depended upon a Bible. (Only one of thousands of manmade inventions you rely on each day.)
 
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Don't let yourself get too carried away with trying to make a Science Textbook out of the Bible. If you took off, flying toward one of the Biblical "four corners of the Earth", you would soon find yourself pretty disappointed............. Sort of like trying to dig down to find Hell.
So what is better; to believe men, or to believe the Bible?
 
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pckts

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You would not possess that computer you are typing on if someone only depended upon a Bible. (Only one of thousands of manmade inventions you rely on each day.)
I am telling you that in cases when "science" conflicts with The Bible, you need to place your whole trust in The Bible and reevaluate why you believe other sources in place of it.

Your point is that because there are books that go into more detail on electrical circuits and other things, that it's ok to dismiss The Bible. Is this really your point? That has nothing to do with what I said, and is a very poor outlook to have.
 
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You two probably still have years to learn of Jesus, and I do hope you don't let yourselves get so mired in literalism that you cannot find your ways out.
 
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You two probably still have years to learn of Jesus, and I do hope you don't let yourselves get so mired in literalism that you cannot find your ways out.
Well first of all you make a large assumption about the two of us based on nothing we spoke about here, and it's very very insulting to say such a thing to another Christian.

Anyway, your poor attitude and tactics aside, we still have years to learn Christ and The Bible because we take Their Words literally and second guess ALL outside sources? What are you saying?
 
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You two probably still have years to learn of Jesus, and I do hope you don't let yourselves get so mired in literalism that you cannot find your ways out.
For him I cannot speak, but only for myself.

What does the Bible say on this matter? That's a question not a statement.