ISIS created by Hillary and Obama

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jameen

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Do American Christians believe that ISIS was created by Hillary and Obama?

Like the Sith who is also the Republic's Chancellor in the Star War series who created the droid army to spread chaos in the galaxies and at the same created the Republic's clone army to beat the droid army so that the Chancellor in the end will be look upon as the hero.
 

I_am_Canadian

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Don't know, don't care. Truth is Judgment day is coming and every one is going to stand before Jesus and give account of their lives.

We will find out the truth on Judgment Day.
 

Musicus

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Do American Christians believe that ISIS was created by Hillary and Obama?

Like the Sith who is also the Republic's Chancellor in the Star War series who created the droid army to spread chaos in the galaxies and at the same created the Republic's clone army to beat the droid army so that the Chancellor in the end will be look upon as the hero.
Can't answer for anyone else, but why would we believe that? I would hope Christians worldwide seek truth, which doesn't support your speculation. ISIS (or ISIL) was started by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in 1999, under a different name (Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-jihad), under Bill Clinton's watch. Is there any evidence that Hillary or Obama (who was an Illinois State Senator then) had anything to do with it?
 

Osprey

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Islamic fundamentalists created ISIS, but the toppling of the Saddam regime freed them up so they could organize. So Muslims created ISIS, but if anything, Bush created ISIS by invading Iraq.
 

SpoonJuly

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Islamic fundamentalists created ISIS, but the toppling of the Saddam regime freed them up so they could organize. So Muslims created ISIS, but if anything, Bush created ISIS by invading Iraq.
I KNEW IT! It's Bush's fault;)
 

Musicus

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Islamic fundamentalists created ISIS, but the toppling of the Saddam regime freed them up so they could organize. So Muslims created ISIS, but if anything, Bush created ISIS by invading Iraq.
You're funny. Read my post above yours for when it was started. Bush didn't invade Iraq until 2003. Bush did use them, but he didn't create them.
 

SpoonJuly

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I knew somebody would reply with this. Just because something is commonly said, doesn't mean it's not true.
The thing is, many people give presidents credit for things done, good and bad, that they have very little or no control over.
The left likes to blame Bush for anything bad that happened during his term and never credit for the good.
The right does the same for Clinton or Obama.
Now it is Trump's turn.
It is the nature of our political system.:(
 

mcubed

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I would even believe more if you said Obama and Hillary help and support ISIS!.... Wait... If they help and support maybe they did support them enough for their creation. So I think I could buy into your thread EVIL PEOPLE OBAMA AND HILLARY CREATING EVIL.... WOULDN'T PUT IT PAST THEM!!!!!!!
 

Locutus

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Never listen to a Bush - It caused the Israelites to wander for 40 years in the desert..Now its the yanks turn..:p
 

SparkleEyes

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Do American Christians believe that ISIS was created by Hillary and Obama?

Like the Sith who is also the Republic's Chancellor in the Star War series who created the droid army to spread chaos in the galaxies and at the same created the Republic's clone army to beat the droid army so that the Chancellor in the end will be look upon as the hero.
This Christian doesn't. IMO, the more fundamental and conservative an American Christian is, the more they are likely to believe this and and other conspiracies. ;) This group might even contain flat earthers.
 

abcdef

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Do American Christians believe that ISIS was created by Hillary and Obama?

Like the Sith who is also the Republic's Chancellor in the Star War series who created the droid army to spread chaos in the galaxies and at the same created the Republic's clone army to beat the droid army so that the Chancellor in the end will be look upon as the hero.
The Sith lord is Trump. He will soon dissolve the USA in favor of a dictatorship. He will be supported by the Russian/republican, far right, goose stepping haters. Fear and hate is their gospel. Trump is their savior. Lies and deception are their weapons.

Trump is going to see Czar Putin to coordinate the next moves to destroy America.

The cult of Trump. The cult of fear and hate and lies.

The Trump dictatorship is coming.
 

Embankment

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You're funny. Read my post above yours for when it was started. Bush didn't invade Iraq until 2003. Bush did use them, but he didn't create them.
The First Gulf War was 1990.
 
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The Sith lord is Trump. He will soon dissolve the USA in favor of a dictatorship. He will be supported by the Russian/republican, far right, goose stepping haters. Fear and hate is their gospel. Trump is their savior. Lies and deception are their weapons.

Trump is going to see Czar Putin to coordinate the next moves to destroy America.

The cult of Trump. The cult of fear and hate and lies.

The Trump dictatorship is coming.
Funny how the godless liberals love accusing Trump of such things, yet the same groups are the ones banning free speech and burning books, just like the Nazi's. Hmm....
 

Embankment

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I have read that one factor leading to the 911 attach stemmed from us establishing an air base in Saudi Arabia. Our Air Force was composed of women as well as men. The Saudis felt that threatened their lifestyle and religion.
 

calibob

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I have read that one factor leading to the 911 attach stemmed from us establishing an air base in Saudi Arabia. Our Air Force was composed of women as well as men. The Saudis felt that threatened their lifestyle and religion.
yes but it also may have been a false flag opperation staged in order to get us involved in an opium war like viet nam
 

Musicus

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Seeds were certainly planted then.
Huh??? ISIS/ISIL was started in 1999, not 2003. Some seeds that led to it are: The Baath Party rising out of the flames if Iraqi communism in the 50's, the Iran/Iraq war in the 80's, Saddam Hussein's 'Faith Campaign' in the 90's, and there are many more.