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ZNP

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That's the red herring. I know this is bad but look over here and what's happening and it's bad too
I agree, I thought a thread on the KKK was a red herring, just like saying the biggest threat to the US is white supremacists was a red herring.

But without a doubt there is a link to Abortion and no one can deny that the abortion laws they are pushing will cause a swift outpouring of God's wrath.
 

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I agree, I thought a thread on the KKK was a red herring, just like saying the biggest threat to the US is white supremacists was a red herring.

But without a doubt there is a link to Abortion and no one can deny that the abortion laws they are pushing will cause a swift outpouring of God's wrath.
Well in the Old testament they didn't have any problem going to an enemy City and murdering their babies
Trying to find it somewhere in the Old testament they mentioned mixing up some type of toxic potion and making a pregnant woman drink it to abort her baby
 

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That's the red herring. I know this is bad but look over here and what's happening and it's bad too
LOL it's a red herring but " I know this is bad " lol
 

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LOL it's a red herring but " I know this is bad " lol
Yeah that's the definition of the red herring fallacy. I know this thing we're talking about right now is bad but let me mention something else that's going on over here that really doesn't have anything to do with the topic in the first place
 

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Yeah that's the definition of the red herring fallacy. I know this thing we're talking about right now is bad but let me mention something else that's going on over here that really doesn't have anything to do with the topic in the first place
The topic is "what is the KKK and how are they associated with Christianity"

This link to abortion is a direct response to that.

If you think the KKK are people in white sheets who lynch people and burn crosses that doesn't explain why we are being told today that they are a bigger threat to us than ISIS.
 

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Yeah that's the definition of the red herring fallacy. I know this thing we're talking about right now is bad but let me mention something else that's going on over here that really doesn't have anything to do with the topic in the first place
only to you.
 

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You see large numbers of abortions in African-American communities largely because of adverse conditions like extreme poverty
But I already mentioned that earlier
If we could start alleviating some of this poverty then you might see those abortion numbers start coming down
But you don't get to discount what the KKK has done to black people over the years because black people are having abortions. It's just a silly argument
 
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Well in the Old testament they didn't have any problem going to an enemy City and murdering their babies
Trying to find it somewhere in the Old testament they mentioned mixing up some type of toxic potion and making a pregnant woman drink it to abort her baby
No you won't anything like that.But what you find it Israel taking the woman and the children for them self's, and killing the rest.
 
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You see large numbers of abortions in African-American communities largely because of adverse conditions like extreme poverty
But I already mentioned that earlier
If we could start alleviating some of this poverty then you might see those abortion numbers start coming down
But you don't get to discount what the KKK has done to black people over the years because black people are having abortions. It's just a silly argument
Money is never the root of the problem, sin is.
 

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You see large numbers of abortions in African-American communities largely because of adverse conditions like extreme poverty
But I already mentioned that earlier
If we could start alleviating some of this poverty then you might see those abortion numbers start coming down
But you don't get to discount what the KKK has done to black people over the years because black people are having abortions. It's just a silly argument

Well, what is it? You say red herring then you oh my it's true but then say but Not true. I feel like I'm talking to the villain two-faced from Batman.
 

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No you won't anything like that.But what you find it Israel taking the woman and the children for them self's, and killing the rest.
Actually yeah that did happen. The Israelites had just defeated the midianites and they came back and told Moses that they had left a non-convictions alive.
Moses was angry because they had not been genocidal enough and told them to go back and slaughter all the women and children except for the young adolescent girls who had never been touched by a man. So basically they were taking adolescent girls as sex slaves
 

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Well, what is it? You say red herring then you oh my it's true but then say but Not true. I feel like I'm talking to the villain two-faced from Batman.
Ohhh! That's who he is!
 

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Well, what is it? You say red herring then you oh my it's true but then say but Not true. I feel like I'm talking to the villain two-faced from Batman.
I said the KKK has a long history of terrorizing black people which is a true statement. You're not really good at debating you should probably try something else
 

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I said the KKK has a long history of terrorizing black people which is a true statement. You're not really good at debating you should probably try something else
No one is disputing that! You would have to be a complete idiot to dispute that!

No, this whole red herring debate is about whether or not the "long history" of the KKK stretches to the present (as the Biden administration is stating) and if so are we talking about the Democratic party and Abortion?

Look at the evidence -- who is responsible for arming the terrorists and making them one of the best equipped militaries in the world? That would be the Democrats.

who is responsible for throwing open our border in violation of the constitutional duties of the federal government to defend and protect our borders? That would be the Democrats.

who is responsible, at least in part, for creating a bioweapon to destroy the US and World's economy? That would be Fauci, who is clearly aligned with the globalists. The globalists are not exclusively democrats, true, they also include RINO's.

Who is responsible for election fraud -- that would in most cases be the Democrats allied with globalists and the CCP and paid by Soros and Zuckerberg.

These are the things that are the greatest threat to the US, now either Biden's administration is lying or they are telling us the truth when they say that "white supremacists" are behind this.
 

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No one is disputing that! You would have to be a complete idiot to dispute that!

No, this whole red herring debate is about whether or not the "long history" of the KKK stretches to the present (as the Biden administration is stating) and if so are we talking about the Democratic party and Abortion?

Look at the evidence -- who is responsible for arming the terrorists and making them one of the best equipped militaries in the world? That would be the Democrats.

who is responsible for throwing open our border in violation of the constitutional duties of the federal government to defend and protect our borders? That would be the Democrats.

who is responsible, at least in part, for creating a bioweapon to destroy the US and World's economy? That would be Fauci, who is clearly aligned with the globalists. The globalists are not exclusively democrats, true, they also include RINO's.

Who is responsible for election fraud -- that would in most cases be the Democrats allied with globalists and the CCP and paid by Soros and Zuckerberg.

These are the things that are the greatest threat to the US, now either Biden's administration is lying or they are telling us the truth when they say that "white supremacists" are behind this.
1. The doctor fauci thing is pure speculation
2. The border isn't open nor has it ever been. Obama was a Democrat and a deported in by the thousands,
3. No evidence for election fraud.
63 courts said there wasn't enough evidence for it to even go to trial
4. Donald Trump's made arms deals with Saudi arabia, the country who did 9/11
5 leaving weapons behind when evacuating a country has always been a thing because it's cheaper and they can't be bothered to destroy them
6... None of this ask what to do with the KKK or abortion
 

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I said the KKK has a long history of terrorizing black people which is a true statement. You're not really good at debating you should probably try something else
Please debating you? lol, it is like trying to nail jello to the wall, completely unproductive. As I said the NEW KKK is CRT, BLM, and the DNC which created systems to kill black as I proved with PP that has murdered 61 million babies of which 18 Million were Black. The United States only has about 4000, lynchings over 2000 of them were done on blacks. That pales to the murder of the unborn.


You are a liberal, and most likely hold to the right of abortion. Therefore you have a racist mid-set by default.
 

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1. The doctor fauci thing is pure speculation
2. The border isn't open nor has it ever been. Obama was a Democrat and a deported in by the thousands,
3. No evidence for election fraud.
63 courts said there wasn't enough evidence for it to even go to trial
4. Donald Trump's made arms deals with Saudi arabia, the country who did 9/11
5 leaving weapons behind when evacuating a country has always been a thing because it's cheaper and they can't be bothered to destroy them
6... None of this ask what to do with the KKK or abortion
You are a snowflake. and suffering from delusion LOL. THS Trump Hate syndrome
 

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Please debating you? lol, it is like trying to nail jello to the wall, completely unproductive. As I said the NEW KKK is CRT, BLM, and the DNC which created systems to kill black as I proved with PP that has murdered 61 million babies of which 18 Million were Black. The United States only has about 4000, lynchings over 2000 of them were done on blacks. That pales to the murder of the unborn.


You are a liberal, and most likely hold to the right of abortion. Therefore you have a racist mid-set by default.
Congratulations on committing two logical fallacies in one argument. The false equivalency and the ad hominem...
How does telling an African-American woman if she does not want to carry her child to term she doesn't have to equate to kicking down their doors and dragging them out of their houses and hanging them?
You are completely disconnected from reality
 

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1. The doctor fauci thing is pure speculation
:LOL::ROFL::LOL:Thanks for that laugh.

2. The border isn't open nor has it ever been. Obama was a Democrat and a deported in by the thousands,
You are aware that Obama has not been president for five years?

3. No evidence for election fraud.
63 courts said there wasn't enough evidence for it to even go to trial
That is it. You can argue that it hasn't been conclusively proven from the evidence that the outcome of the election was flipped from Trump to Biden, but to say "there is no evidence" is just a blatant falsehood. Either you are a liar or are completely clueless, either way a waste of my time.
 

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:LOL::ROFL::LOL:Thanks for that laugh.



You are aware that Obama has not been president for five years?



That is it. You can argue that it hasn't been conclusively proven from the evidence that the outcome of the election was flipped from Trump to Biden, but to say "there is no evidence" is just a blatant falsehood. Either you are a liar or are completely clueless, either way a waste of my time.
You said open borders is a democratic policy Obama was Democrat and deported a poop load of people. Your argument fails
 
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