Leftist Thinking Is The Most Destructive Element In Existence

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Billyd

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Vaccines are not just to prevent death, they are also there to prevent people from becoming infected. One of my close friends caught covid19 in May of 2020. He was a healthy male in his late sixties. Today he still suffers respiratory problems that sometimes requires oxygen. If the covid19 vaccine had been available, and he had taken the shot, he would be healthy today.
 

Billyd

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yep, that is the virus that we must get the vax for, it is the only way to survive ( they say).
No. It's the only proven successful way to prevent you from getting covid19.
 
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yep, that is the virus that we must get the vax for, it is the only way to survive ( they say).
Someone said if the shot actually worked, they would be fighting against it as fiercely as the fight against HydroxyChloroquine, Zinc, and any other effective measures.
 

Nehemiah6

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Someone said if the shot actually worked, they would be fighting against it as fiercely as the fight against HydroxyChloroquine, Zinc, and any other effective measures.
FLASHBACK: New Zealand PM told public ‘we are your single source of truth’
The words were uttered by New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in what appears to be resurfaced footage from March 19, 2020, when she was commenting on the “conspiracy theories” found on social media with regard to COVID-19 lockdowns.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...uth?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=standard

Since January 2020 every Western country has set up "THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH" as predicted in 1984 by George Orwell. The fundamental principles is "LIES ARE TRUTH, AND TRUTH IS LIES". We thought this happens only in the Soviet Union and China. But it is a fact in every Western nation now. The truth tellers are being fired, "cancelled", "disappeared", or killed.
 

Nehemiah6

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If the covid19 vaccine had been available, and he had taken the shot, he would be healthy today.
Do you see how well you have been thoroughly brainwashed? You did not even talk about the HCQ combo pack, ivermectin, Vitamin D, zinc. etc. all of which together or singly would have been sufficient (when used early).

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko had tremendous success with a combination of HCQ, azithromycin, and zinc (and so did other doctors). And he asked Donald Trump in March 2020 to promote it and ensure that it was freely available. He also informed all doctors in the medical profession about this fantastic remedy. Well guess what? He was ignored and HCQ and ivermectin were reviled, sabotaged and banned. So why don't you inquire about this before talking about "vaccines" which are not even vaccines? Do you know how many have been killed with them just in the USA and the EU?
 

Gideon300

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Someone said if the shot actually worked, they would be fighting against it as fiercely as the fight against HydroxyChloroquine, Zinc, and any other effective measures.
"Someone said" and you believe them? Why? Other "someones" have said that some vaccines are effective for a wide range of people, not 100% but enough to be helpful. The world has no interest in self destructing. Businesses need workers and people alive to spend money. Self interest is a powerful motivation and that's what drives companies to make effective vaccines.
 
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It's not the other way around.

Corporations DO NOT have arms with which to shove in our face to impose their will...but GOVERNMENT not only has seemingly unlimited arms at their disposal, but they are in bed with their willing corporate accomplices for the continuous development of new weaponry for use by government via the Military Industrial Complex.
Corporations don't have arms? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

WHO DO YOU THINK PROVIDES ARMS TO THE MILITARY?

The phrase "military-industrial complex" refers to the supply and demand principle of arming the American military. Mostly the Industrial side of the military-industrial complex supplies ALL THE WEAPONRY the military could possibly need or want (and in many cases neither wants nor needs).

Corporations "shove policy in our faces" by means of government support. It's called the law and it usually comes down on the side of mega-corporations. There is little or no current regulation of these large corporations. The issue of privacy is paramount in society today. Corporations squeeze citizens at every point using the legal means at their disposal. There is little or no regulation of the acquisition retention or use of private data by corporations. There is NO regulation of some of these corporations with regard to their practice of propagandizing the nation.

The word "USER" is commonly employed to refer to customers of two large industries; the drug trade and software vendors.

How bad does it have to get before Americans realize they're in a trap? I don't think they ever will. Americans are too stupid to understand the danger and too apathetic to do anything about it if they did. We deserve the corrupt government we've got.

"Americans don't understand what's happening to them." - Pravda

If you think corporations DON'T have arms, try to break into the property of one of them at night and see what happens. I don't recommend it because it's not only illegal but you'll probably get shot by one of their guards (who will not face the consequences of his act).

Americans are in love with blood and violence and war. Watch the TV news and see if it doesn't provide evidence of this. Certainly the talking heads on the TV will bemoan the circumstances of violence, but they will just as readily switch to a human interest story with the same amount of vigor. They simply don't care about accuracy in their stories. I know because I was once one of them. It's policy.

Bottom line here is to repeat that the US government is ruled by three branches of an unelected cadre; the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and the financial cartel. The elected government is subservient to their desires. I know the danger because I worked for two of them when I was young and stupid.

Next time the reader raises his/her hand to recite the pledge of allegiance try to ask who is your god. Is it the US government you are pledging your allegiance to or is it God who demands 100% of our allegiance. Its not a 50/50 proposition. You cannot pledge your allegiance to both.

Choose sides.

Bear in mind God wishes to bless while the US government removes our liberties.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
 
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You are correct - provisionally.

It's true political leftists accuse Republicans of fascism at every turn of a discussion, but its also true that political conservatives accuse Democrats of Communist tendencies. Neither is completely accurate. Both disregard the true nature of American politics, which has nothing at all to do with the will of the people.

In truth, rule of the American society is determined by three non-elected groups; the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and our financial cartel.

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke

"The CIA has every imaginable media outlet covered." - William Casey former director of the CIA

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." -Thomas Jefferson

"No nation ..can.. preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." - James Madison (4th President of the united States)

Neither Democrats nor Republicans are interested in the will or the benefit of the American people. Read their own words;

"The role of government is to rein in the rights of the people." - Bill Clinton (D)

'There ought to be limits to freedom.' - George W. Bush (R)

Anybody who believes that one Democratic leader or a Republican leader can willingly and independently lead America into a prosperous and free future is denying the truth of history and the flow of events. There can be NO liberty or prosperity apart from surrender to Christ Jesus and His will for our lives and for our country.

But America has turned its back upon Jesus - choosing instead to follow religious or political celebrities instead. As a result the gospel has been diluted and God's LAW has been denied.

IF GOD DOESN'T JUDGE AMERICA HE WILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

Indeed, that judgment may already be upon us.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

Exactly
 
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"Someone said" and you believe them? Why? Other "someones" have said that some vaccines are effective for a wide range of people, not 100% but enough to be helpful. The world has no interest in self destructing. Businesses need workers and people alive to spend money. Self interest is a powerful motivation and that's what drives companies to make effective vaccines.
Businesses don't care about their employees.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CORPORATE LOYALTY.

You write as though you are very young and have had NO experience working for a large or medium sized corporation. Even retail establishments have little or no loyalty for their employees.

YET THE EMPLOYEE IS EXPECTED TO HAVE 100% LOYALTY TOWARD THEIR EMPLOYER.

Has a light come on yet? Do you not understand what's going on here? No employer really cares about their employees, except perhaps for those who are bringing in profit by the bucketful.

God expects honesty to be shown by His people to everyone they have commerce with. The Almighty rewards those who follow His precepts with protection and love.

What can you expect from the average American corporation? You'll get a boot into the street for the slightest perceived infraction. Walmart once fired a friend of mine who dared to ask for and take a couple days off to be with his wife during and after child birth. Is this a crime? The big package store manager thought so and the poor guy found himself unemployed without unemployment benefits.

All this argument about Covid vaccine is pointless. It isn't a Communist scheme to defraud one of money or health. The vaccine is based on good science and bad-mouthed by ignorant fools. Get the shot and stay at work even if your employer is a harsh beast. Be loyal to God and God will be loyal to you.

Again, there is no such thing as corporate loyalty. The only things that will assure their compliance is God and a good lawyer.

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FLASHBACK: New Zealand PM told public ‘we are your single source of truth’
The words were uttered by New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in what appears to be resurfaced footage from March 19, 2020, when she was commenting on the “conspiracy theories” found on social media with regard to COVID-19 lockdowns.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/f...uth?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=standard

Since January 2020 every Western country has set up "THE MINISTRY OF TRUTH" as predicted in 1984 by George Orwell. The fundamental principles is "LIES ARE TRUTH, AND TRUTH IS LIES". We thought this happens only in the Soviet Union and China. But it is a fact in every Western nation now. The truth tellers are being fired, "cancelled", "disappeared", or killed.
So, how much more does the church have to endure before the "Rapture" takes place? The China virus, climate hoax, white supremacy, etc., are all being used directly and indirectly against the church.

We see persecution breaking out all over in the West along with the more severe kind that has been the reality for our brethren in the East. If the torture and murder of the brethren breaks out in the West, will that be a sign the Rapture is not going to happen and that Protestant Historicism has been right all along?

How, if at all, does Jesuit Futurism incorporate end times persecution which is raging all over now into its school of thought? Is there a certain number of Christians that will be tortured and killed before Jesus comes secretly? Or, does Jesuit Futurism not recognize the persecution taking place now as such, perhaps characterizing it as something much less problematic than the kind of horror that is considered will happen during the "7 years of tribulation"?

I think many Christians who await the secret return of Jesus will be shocked to realize they are still here with no hope of deliverance (except the Second Coming) during the worst time in Earth's history that is to directly precede the coming of Jesus.
 
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"Someone said" and you believe them? Why? Other "someones" have said that some vaccines are effective for a wide range of people, not 100% but enough to be helpful. The world has no interest in self destructing. Businesses need workers and people alive to spend money. Self interest is a powerful motivation and that's what drives companies to make effective vaccines.
Who cares who the "someone" was? What matters is WHAT WAS SAID and the truthfulness of it.

Let's get something straight...these are NOT "vaccines"...they are chemical concoctions that have nothing to do with what is historically a "vaccine". They are "shots" and nothing more...shots designed to harm the populace. The Satanic communists in control of the media and politics are suppressing the truth of how many are being harmed by them, and the absolute USELESSNESS of the shot against the China virus.

I would like you to answer a very simple question and I'm only giving you one chance to answer it before I block you because I've no time for people who refuse to be confronted with simple facts and think through them for themselves instead of regurgitating what the commie media reports:

If the U.S. government really thought that Covid and its "variants" were as deadly a threat as they and their communist accomplices in the commie Fake News media claim it is...WHY IS THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF MEXICO STILL WIDE OPEN INSTEAD OF TOTALLY SHUT DOWN AND WHY IS THE BIDEN/HARRIS ILLEGITIMATE ADMIN ALLOWING THE TRANSPORT IN OF UNTESTED, UN"VACCINATED", AND MEDICALLY UNSCREENED ILLEGAL ALIENS INTO THE U.S. BY THE MULTIPLIED THOUSANDS EVERY MONTH? LARGE BUSLOADS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS ROUNDED UP AUTHORITIES WERE GRANTED PASSAGE LAST WEEK TO FOUR LOUISIANA TOWNS: SHREIVPORT, NATCHEZ, MONROE, AND BATON ROUGE WITH NO WARNING TO STATE OR MUNICIPAL AUTHORITIES, LEAVING BOTH CITIZENS AND LEADERS VERY ANGRY AT THE BIDEN/HARRIS ILLEGITIMATE ADMINISTRATION.

The only answer to the question is that there is no threat, and this plannedemic is being used to bring about exactly the kind of police state Revelation depicts will arise with the enforcement of the Mark of the Beast.
 
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Corporations don't have arms? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
As a heart attack. It is YOU who needs a reality check.

There isn't a single corporate entity that will bang down your door and force you at gunpoint to comply with their demands...that is what the jackbooted thugs in GOVERNMENT do, including the IRS which is essentially a deputized GOVERNMENT agency.

The fact that the MIC supplies weapons to GOVERNMENT is irrelevant - it is who WIELDS the weapons against us that matters, namely GOVERNMENT.
 
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As a heart attack. It is YOU who needs a reality check.

There isn't a single corporate entity that will bang down your door and force you at gunpoint to comply with their demands...that is what the jackbooted thugs in GOVERNMENT do, including the IRS which is essentially a deputized GOVERNMENT agency.

The fact that the MIC supplies weapons to GOVERNMENT is irrelevant - it is who WIELDS the weapons against us that matters, namely GOVERNMENT.
Unbelievably off the rails...... Incredibly uninformed....

Corporations don't need to "bang down your door" when they can TAKE door house and all away from you. Think, man.

They don't need to use guns when they hire police (who use the guns they manufacture) to do their dirty work for them. Hello?

IRS doesn't have jackbooted thugs working for them. They employ lawyers. Lawyers can do a lot more damage than gunmen. If you arrive at cross purposes with the IRS you will likely come into contact with their assistants. They don't usually bother to point their lawyers at the little guy when legal assistants can do it for them.

Paperwork. It's all about paperwork.

You've been watching too many WWII documentaries. That's not how things are done in the twenty-first century.

I'll write it again because someone has missed the point.

The United States is a fascist police state.

Power rests firmly in the hands of the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and the financial cartel (banks - for people who don't understand big words). The one that holds the gun is puppet of the ones who make the rules - and those people aren't the general population.

Please do some reading on this subject. The opinions expressed here are not my own.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
 
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Someone said if the shot actually worked, they would be fighting against it as fiercely as the fight against HydroxyChloroquine, Zinc, and any other effective measures.
COVID vaccines WORK.

They keep a lot of folks out of the hospital and they stall a lot of business for the mortician.

Ill informed stubborn folk seem to think COVID works like a Hollywood disease - sick one day and dead the next.

THAT'S NOT HOW COVID WORKS.

Those that are infected with the pandemic disease SUFFER FOR MONTHS - often terribly. Ever spent a few nights in the hospital? It's boring and painful and you wish every minute to be out of there and at home. NOT WITH COVID. With COVID you spend weeks and months in the hospital struggling for every breath and suffering terrible pain both physically and mentally. In the end you die. If you are lucky enough to survive you get to go home, but with persistent difficulty for weeks and months thereafter.

COVID is not the common cold - sick a few days and then better. COVID kills, but it takes a gruesome toll of those who are infected as it slowly REPEAT SLOWLY drains its victims of life.

Is it worth the risk?

Consider the hospital bills.

Do you have an insurance policy that will cover months of treatment and rehab that follows - OR WILL YOU LOSE EVERY PENNEY YOU EVER PUT ASIDE?

The vaccine is free.

COVID robs of health life and family resources.

In the end your family gets to weep over your grave - which will cost them at least another ten grand.

Is it worth the risk to continue to be stubborn and stupid about this plague upon mankind?

I don't think so, but then I've spent some time in a hospital recently and I don't want to go back again any time soon.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
 
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COVID vaccines WORK.

They keep a lot of folks out of the hospital and they stall a lot of business for the mortician.

Ill informed stubborn folk seem to think COVID works like a Hollywood disease - sick one day and dead the next.

THAT'S NOT HOW COVID WORKS.

Those that are infected with the pandemic disease SUFFER FOR MONTHS - often terribly. Ever spent a few nights in the hospital? It's boring and painful and you wish every minute to be out of there and at home. NOT WITH COVID. With COVID you spend weeks and months in the hospital struggling for every breath and suffering terrible pain both physically and mentally. In the end you die. If you are lucky enough to survive you get to go home, but with persistent difficulty for weeks and months thereafter.

COVID is not the common cold - sick a few days and then better. COVID kills, but it takes a gruesome toll of those who are infected as it slowly REPEAT SLOWLY drains its victims of life.

Is it worth the risk?

Consider the hospital bills.

Do you have an insurance policy that will cover months of treatment and rehab that follows - OR WILL YOU LOSE EVERY PENNEY YOU EVER PUT ASIDE?

The vaccine is free.

COVID robs of health life and family resources.

In the end your family gets to weep over your grave - which will cost them at least another ten grand.

Is it worth the risk to continue to be stubborn and stupid about this plague upon mankind?

I don't think so, but then I've spent some time in a hospital recently and I don't want to go back again any time soon.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST - Jesus as quoted in Luke 4:12

If you do, you may be standing before Him sooner than you expected - and for all the wrong reasons.

Get the COVID vaccine now.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft.
 
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COVID vaccines WORK.

They keep a lot of folks out of the hospital and they stall a lot of business for the mortician.

Ill informed stubborn folk seem to think COVID works like a Hollywood disease - sick one day and dead the next.

THAT'S NOT HOW COVID WORKS.

Those that are infected with the pandemic disease SUFFER FOR MONTHS - often terribly. Ever spent a few nights in the hospital? It's boring and painful and you wish every minute to be out of there and at home. NOT WITH COVID. With COVID you spend weeks and months in the hospital struggling for every breath and suffering terrible pain both physically and mentally. In the end you die. If you are lucky enough to survive you get to go home, but with persistent difficulty for weeks and months thereafter.

COVID is not the common cold - sick a few days and then better. COVID kills, but it takes a gruesome toll of those who are infected as it slowly REPEAT SLOWLY drains its victims of life.

Is it worth the risk?

Consider the hospital bills.

Do you have an insurance policy that will cover months of treatment and rehab that follows - OR WILL YOU LOSE EVERY PENNEY YOU EVER PUT ASIDE?

The vaccine is free.

COVID robs of health life and family resources.

In the end your family gets to weep over your grave - which will cost them at least another ten grand.

Is it worth the risk to continue to be stubborn and stupid about this plague upon mankind?

I don't think so, but then I've spent some time in a hospital recently and I don't want to go back again any time soon.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
All of your faux vaccine advocacy is of the devil. God is not pleased. 👎