Secession is the only hope for peace in USA.

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Quantrill

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"Identity politics" exactly the same as those on the left, now wonder your country is such a mess. :(
What do you mean? Again, why is what I said a major problem? Don't give trite general statements. Explane what you mean.

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OK. Which post?

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Where you outlined how the individual states would function without a federal supreme court.

To me it is not workable, that which you have written, perhaps a two, or three state solution each with its own Supreme Court.

I totally get the secede, try living in Canada it is ten times worse and most people are mostly on the far left, there are very few true libertarians and conservatives.

Christians live in far more oppressive situations than we do, not sure that we can stem the tide anymore, but I wholeheartedly refute your identity politics.
 
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What do you mean? Again, why is what I said a major problem? Don't give trite general statements. Explane what you mean.

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I really cannot believe that you can categorize people by the colour of their skin, and then use that as a way to identify a person's beliefs/motives/actions.

If you do not know, I really do not think there is anything I can tell you.

I am really finished with this thread.
Goodbye.
 

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Where you outlined how the individual states would function without a federal supreme court.

To me it is not workable, that which you have written, perhaps a two, or three state solution each with its own Supreme Court.

I totally get the secede, try living in Canada it is ten times worse and most people are mostly on the far left, there are very few true libertarians and conservatives.

Christians live in far more oppressive situations than we do, not sure that we can stem the tide anymore, but I wholeheartedly refute your identity politics.
Where did I say it would be easy? Which post? Why don't you just give the post?

Whether it is workable to you or not is immaterial. Where did I say it would be easy?

Oh, are you from Canada? Then why are you advising me in America? You don't get nothing. Your history is not linked to our history.

And you haven't explained what you mean by "my identity politics" .

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I really cannot believe that you can categorize people by the colour of their skin, and then use that as a way to identify a person's beliefs/motives/actions.

If you do not know, I really do not think there is anything I can tell you.

I am really finished with this thread.
Goodbye.
OK. Iv'e heard that before. Yet, I will hear from you again.

I want you to explain what you meant when you said I have a major problem. If you can't explain it then fine. If it is easier to run away, then fine.

Are you scared I maybe right?

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Secession is the only hope for peace in USA.
Secession from what?


A relatively small segment of the American population (generously funded by anarchists such as Soros and other billionaires), has an evil plan to destroy America from within -- "Death to America".

The majority should not secede but insist on bringing the full force and authority of the President to bear upon the socialist, anarchist, BLM and Antifa thugs.

My questions are:

(1) why has President Trump stood by and not cleaned out the DOJ and FBI already?

(2) why has Mr. Trump not outlawed by Executive Order the Antifa and all Leftist anarchists already?

(3) why did Mr. Trump fail to shut down the bogus Mueller witch hunt at its very inception?

(4) why did Mr. Trump fail to insist that Senate Republicans apply their Nuclear Option to shut down the conspiracy against Kavanaugh?

(5) why did Mr. Trump fail to start building the wall within days of taking office?

(6) why did Mr. Trump sign the omnibus spending bill when it sabotaged his agenda, especially after saying he would veto it?

President Trump has been sabotaging himself and his agenda inspite of all the positive things he has accomplished.
 
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Where did I say it would be easy? Which post? Why don't you just give the post?

Whether it is workable to you or not is immaterial. Where did I say it would be easy?

Oh, are you from Canada? Then why are you advising me in America? You don't get nothing. Your history is not linked to our history.

And you haven't explained what you mean by "my identity politics" .

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Look it up.

"Advising" are you in a political office, in which case I may have to charge for my advise. :)

I guess you forgot about the war of 1812, we are actually quite connected, not that it matters but study can do wonders for the objective fact seeking person but most Americans only know about their own little corner of the world and barely at that, since your nation has been so dumbed down over the years.............but have it your way.
 
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OK. Iv'e heard that before. Yet, I will hear from you again.

I want you to explain what you meant when you said I have a major problem. If you can't explain it then fine. If it is easier to run away, then fine.

Are you scared I maybe right?

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I am not scared, I just do not like it when conservatives use the same false identity politics to accuse people.
 
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Secession from what?

A relatively small segment of the American population (generously funded by anarchists such as Soros and other billionaires), has an evil plan to destroy America from within -- "Death to America".

The majority should not secede but insist on bringing the full force and authority of the President to bear upon the socialist, anarchist, BLM and Antifa thugs.

My questions are:

(1) why has President Trump stood by and not cleaned out the DOJ and FBI already?

(2) why has Mr. Trump not outlawed by Executive Order the Antifa and all Leftist anarchists already?

(3) why did Mr. Trump fail to shut down the bogus Mueller witch hunt at its very inception?

(4) why did Mr. Trump fail to insist that Senate Republicans apply their Nuclear Option to shut down the conspiracy against Kavanaugh?

(5) why did Mr. Trump fail to start building the wall within days of taking office?

(6) why did Mr. Trump sign the omnibus spending bill when it sabotaged his agenda, especially after saying he would veto it?

President Trump has been sabotaging himself and his agenda inspite of all the positive things he has accomplished.

I agree.

The U.S. is in major turmoil and there is a definite left with an agenda but it cuts across race, religion and other identifying characteristics
 

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Look it up.

"Advising" are you in a political office, in which case I may have to charge for my advise. :)

I guess you forgot about the war of 1812, we are actually quite connected, not that it matters but study can do wonders for the objective fact seeking person but most Americans only know about their own little corner of the world and barely at that, since your nation has been so dumbed down over the years.............but have it your way.
"Look it up" translates into you can't provide it because I never said it.

The war of 1812 has nothing to do with what we are discussing. What do you a Canadian know about the politics in America? You can't clean up your own back yard.

Explain what you mean by 'my identity politics'.

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I am not scared, I just do not like it when conservatives use the same false identity politics to accuse people.
Oh, so you're not only 'Canadian' but you are a liberal. Surprise, surprise.

See, I told you I would hear from you again.

Again, explain what you mean by my identity politics?

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Secession from what?

A relatively small segment of the American population (generously funded by anarchists such as Soros and other billionaires), has an evil plan to destroy America from within -- "Death to America".

The majority should not secede but insist on bringing the full force and authority of the President to bear upon the socialist, anarchist, BLM and Antifa thugs.

My questions are:

(1) why has President Trump stood by and not cleaned out the DOJ and FBI already?

(2) why has Mr. Trump not outlawed by Executive Order the Antifa and all Leftist anarchists already?

(3) why did Mr. Trump fail to shut down the bogus Mueller witch hunt at its very inception?

(4) why did Mr. Trump fail to insist that Senate Republicans apply their Nuclear Option to shut down the conspiracy against Kavanaugh?

(5) why did Mr. Trump fail to start building the wall within days of taking office?

(6) why did Mr. Trump sign the omnibus spending bill when it sabotaged his agenda, especially after saying he would veto it?

President Trump has been sabotaging himself and his agenda inspite of all the positive things he has accomplished.
Gee, are you a Canadian too? Why ask such a stupid question...secession from what?

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Gee, are you a Canadian too? Why ask such a stupid question...secession from what?
It is definitely not a stupid question. The Civil War is history and so is the secession of the South. Even California's Left-Liberal dream about secession has been put to rest. What's needed right now is an effective strategy against the Radical Left. Unfortunately the Republicans are mostly RINOs and Trump is simply sabotaging himself.
 

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It is definitely not a stupid question. The Civil War is history and so is the secession of the South. Even California's Left-Liberal dream about secession has been put to rest. What's needed right now is an effective strategy against the Radical Left. Unfortunately the Republicans are mostly RINOs and Trump is simply sabotaging himself.
I am not addressing the secession in the War between the States except as an example of what happens when you don't allow secession when the people want secession. The divisions that cause people to divide, and to want to secede still exist even though a government may not allow it.

If the War between the States is just history, why do they still destroy the South's monuments and flags? Why do they still harp on 'slavery'? Why?...because the divisions are still there among the people.

The secession I suggested was not a complete break with the union. But it is a break from the power of the Federal government to force the States to live like the Federal government wants them to.

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Neither do I and the many Southernors in the South don't like it either.

They take down our Confederate symbols because they hate us. And it is not just the symbols they are after...they are after the people those symbols represent.
Local people vote in city consuls to remove the statues. Not people from other states.


Atheists, liberals, blacks, minorities, are all in bed together to destroy any white loyalty to America.
There is your problem. Oh, everybody hates me. Are you wearing your white hood to church? Pretending to love everyone, but hating them instead? Typical KKK slander of loyal Americans. And you forgot JEWS! How could you forget the Jews?


Yankees are usually silent when they destroy our heritage.
That's because the local authorities are the ones removing the statues of hate and bondage. Your local elected officials. Go hate them!


Afrter all we are just Southernors.
No, you are Americans.


But they won't stop there. They will be taking away monuments in the north when they find out the yankees had slaves too.

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They, they, they. They all hate me! Poor thing!

No, you just want to say that millions of American Christians are hating you because of where you live.

Christians, southern Christians, are just turning away from the hate that you, and others like you are spewing towards other loyal Americans.

All just words of hate and division.

Why don't you tell us all how much you love atheists, liberals, blacks, and minorities? And Jews?

That's all you are, a troll of hate and division.

Americans are united by Christian love.

You are united by hate from the spirit of Satan.

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There we have it ..... the great divide :(

A country tearing itself apart at the seams.
 

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Local people vote in city consuls to remove the statues. Not people from other states.




There is your problem. Oh, everybody hates me. Are you wearing your white hood to church? Pretending to love everyone, but hating them instead? Typical KKK slander of loyal Americans. And you forgot JEWS! How could you forget the Jews?




That's because the local authorities are the ones removing the statues of hate and bondage. Your local elected officials. Go hate them!




No, you are Americans.




They, they, they. They all hate me! Poor thing!

No, you just want to say that millions of American Christians are hating you because of where you live.

Christians, southern Christians, are just turning away from the hate that you, and others like you are spewing towards other loyal Americans.

All just words of hate and division.

Why don't you tell us all how much you love atheists, liberals, blacks, and minorities? And Jews?

That's all you are, a troll of hate and division.

Americans are united by Christian love.

You are united by hate from the spirit of Satan.

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Local people vote in city consuls to remove the statues. Not people from other states.




There is your problem. Oh, everybody hates me. Are you wearing your white hood to church? Pretending to love everyone, but hating them instead? Typical KKK slander of loyal Americans. And you forgot JEWS! How could you forget the Jews?




That's because the local authorities are the ones removing the statues of hate and bondage. Your local elected officials. Go hate them!




No, you are Americans.




They, they, they. They all hate me! Poor thing!

No, you just want to say that millions of American Christians are hating you because of where you live.

Christians, southern Christians, are just turning away from the hate that you, and others like you are spewing towards other loyal Americans.

All just words of hate and division.

Why don't you tell us all how much you love atheists, liberals, blacks, and minorities? And Jews?

That's all you are, a troll of hate and division.

Americans are united by Christian love.

You are united by hate from the spirit of Satan.

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No, there is never a vote of citizens to remove statues, flags, etc. It is down by liberal, left, and black representatives. I would love to see a popular vote taken. The reason it never comes to a public vote is they know they would lose.

Most of the country does hate the Southernors. We are their whipping post. No, I don't pretend to love everyone. Do you?

Yankees are silent because they don't care if all Southern monuments were removed. The Federal government certainly doesn't care. They will care as soon as theirs start coming down. The same people who destroy ours will be after the American flag also. Then watch em scream. The same people after ours are the same Maxine Waters antifa thugs. Oh yes, the north has been duped into believing they were the great 'Moses' delieverer of the blacks. Little do they know that they started the whole thing and as soon as blacks get educated enough to read the history, then yankee monuments, flags, are going to be coming down. But of course that is why you have the NAACP....so that they dumb everyone down and keep stirring up the pot of slavery.

Southern American. United only by the bayonet. The country was originally united by the Constitution. But, they destroyed that in 1861. Now our unity is based only on military victory. Be unified or else.

Division and hate already exists in the country. Fueled time and again by groups such as the NAACP, Antifa, Maxine Waters. Those are hate groups.

I already told you I don't love everybody. Why don't you lie to me and tell me you love everyone? Go ahead. Tell me how much you love me. But, don't expect it in return.

A troll? I'm no troll. I'm willing to debate with you on everything I said. You definitely have anger issues. Why?....because what I am saying is so. Everyone loves to pretend it is not, though they know it is. But don't say it is...cause then you get accused of being full of hate.

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There we have it ..... the great divide :(

A country tearing itself apart at the seams.
Oh please, you make me feel so bad. not

The divide already exists. Your pretending to be a Canadian peace maker is not going to solve it. This is the reality of where we live. You live in a fantasy world.

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Atheists, liberals, blacks, minorities, are all in bed together to destroy any white loyalty to America.


KKK/hate groups teaching.

Your hate is showing, your shame.

Again, tell us how much you love atheists, blacks, liberals and Jews.

You can't. You just turn back to the lies that you continue to spew to divide Christians.

That white hood that you are wearing, it looks a little small. Your head is so swelled that you better get a larger size.

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KKK/hate groups teaching.

Your hate is showing, your shame.

Again, tell us how much you love atheists, blacks, liberals and Jews.

You can't. You just turn back to the lies that you continue to spew to divide Christians.

That white hood that you are wearing, it looks a little small. Your head is so swelled that you better get a larger size.

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I never told you in the first place that I love atheists, blacks, liberals. As to Jews I am not against the Jews. By the same token just because they are Jews doesn't mean they are right. So, it all depends on where the Jew stands. I already told you I don't love everyone. Now, go ahead and lie to me and tell me you do.

You're just commenting now out of your frustration and inability to offer any substance.

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