Selling My Soul Experience
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Below are private messages I had with "Pckts", I think these messages benefit this thread.
Pckts:
Hello,
As someone who is aware of the Illuminati, and the propaganda machine that we live in, thought you might want to check this out.
It starts at 1:31 to show something, but the whole video is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzyP...utu.be&t=1m31s
This whole "NASA is lying and we don't know the universe we live in" helped me out with my suicidal thoughts and tendencies.
PolarBerry:
The video is too long, why don't you summarize it for me to explain what it is trying to get across.
Pckts:
It's a series of examples of errors in the videos NASA use to deceive you into believing outer space exploration is occurring. It's like if I was showing you examples of a zipper on the bigfoot costume that everyone believed was real.
Can't really summarize beyond that because it requires you to see for yourself.
PolarBerry:
LOL! The zipper on a bigfoot costume was a hilarious metaphor. I don't believe the government does this intentionally to deceive us, I think anything is possible in God's world. Also it could be that the video was fake to begin with, or it was in the U.S. governments best interest to protect our nation by bluffing to other nations that we had already began exploring space. Look at the lifestyles of the U.S. citizens and compare it to those of other countries, clearly U.S. is the best country and the government allows us to be so even though they have the power to treat it's citizens like the other third world countries.
Pckts:
Not all the examples can be dismissed as being edited or altered by the youtube uploader, such as press conference comments form NASA officials or examples of gravity aboard the ISS.
It's OK at least you didn't tell me I was crazy and then redirect me to a government website to tell me why I'm wrong. Just wanted to reach out.
Also, I rejected the OT too at first because it seemed archaic and very different than Jesus, but the world was a different messed up place during these times.
The 3rd or 4th human killed the 3rd or 4th human (kain abel). Look at how the experiment started to fail right from the beginning. Or maybe you do not believe in adam and eve idk, it's very easy and possible to accept both new and OT. Matthew does a very good job linking them together, he wrote matthew for the OT believing jews.
Please stay with the community, I got a lot out of it and I originally came here to scream flat earth into the wind and get made fun of.
PolarBerry:
Cool, thanks. Yeah, I'm not gonna check out the OT until the church does the right thing and translates it into modern words like they translated the NT. I mean c'mon they translated the Bible so many times from King James version to GOD'S WORD to New International Version, they can't do a modern 2017 version?
Pckts:
I haven't dived into it really myself, trying to finish or at least get an overall interpretation of the NT first. The OT has been translated modern, some translate it directly from the hebrew scrolls, rather than attempting to "fix" KJV.
I doubted the validity of The Bible until I found out the greek texts and everything were all mostly the same, and complete Bibles like the khabouris manuscript existing (although this one is NT only). God has the power to provide us with his word, and he did. Just hard to believe it sometimes when you see the corruption of the world and church or incompetence of both.
PolarBerry:
Yeah definitely hard to believe with the corruption. Too bad we didn't have this conversation on the forum post, I think a lot of others would have benefited a great deal from our conversation. We should re-do the entire conversation on the post =) .
Pckts:
I'll try to follow your posts and we can have all new conversations for everyone. Most of the people here are firm believers, whether they take it on faith or fact. They also are very paranoid and jumpy that everyone is a troll, and everyone has an unrealistic fear of being "banned" from a website you could easily make another account on. Other than that they are great to talk to.
Pckts:
Hello,
As someone who is aware of the Illuminati, and the propaganda machine that we live in, thought you might want to check this out.
It starts at 1:31 to show something, but the whole video is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzyP...utu.be&t=1m31s
This whole "NASA is lying and we don't know the universe we live in" helped me out with my suicidal thoughts and tendencies.
PolarBerry:
The video is too long, why don't you summarize it for me to explain what it is trying to get across.
Pckts:
It's a series of examples of errors in the videos NASA use to deceive you into believing outer space exploration is occurring. It's like if I was showing you examples of a zipper on the bigfoot costume that everyone believed was real.
Can't really summarize beyond that because it requires you to see for yourself.
PolarBerry:
LOL! The zipper on a bigfoot costume was a hilarious metaphor. I don't believe the government does this intentionally to deceive us, I think anything is possible in God's world. Also it could be that the video was fake to begin with, or it was in the U.S. governments best interest to protect our nation by bluffing to other nations that we had already began exploring space. Look at the lifestyles of the U.S. citizens and compare it to those of other countries, clearly U.S. is the best country and the government allows us to be so even though they have the power to treat it's citizens like the other third world countries.
Pckts:
Not all the examples can be dismissed as being edited or altered by the youtube uploader, such as press conference comments form NASA officials or examples of gravity aboard the ISS.
It's OK at least you didn't tell me I was crazy and then redirect me to a government website to tell me why I'm wrong. Just wanted to reach out.
Also, I rejected the OT too at first because it seemed archaic and very different than Jesus, but the world was a different messed up place during these times.
The 3rd or 4th human killed the 3rd or 4th human (kain abel). Look at how the experiment started to fail right from the beginning. Or maybe you do not believe in adam and eve idk, it's very easy and possible to accept both new and OT. Matthew does a very good job linking them together, he wrote matthew for the OT believing jews.
Please stay with the community, I got a lot out of it and I originally came here to scream flat earth into the wind and get made fun of.
PolarBerry:
Cool, thanks. Yeah, I'm not gonna check out the OT until the church does the right thing and translates it into modern words like they translated the NT. I mean c'mon they translated the Bible so many times from King James version to GOD'S WORD to New International Version, they can't do a modern 2017 version?
Pckts:
I haven't dived into it really myself, trying to finish or at least get an overall interpretation of the NT first. The OT has been translated modern, some translate it directly from the hebrew scrolls, rather than attempting to "fix" KJV.
I doubted the validity of The Bible until I found out the greek texts and everything were all mostly the same, and complete Bibles like the khabouris manuscript existing (although this one is NT only). God has the power to provide us with his word, and he did. Just hard to believe it sometimes when you see the corruption of the world and church or incompetence of both.
PolarBerry:
Yeah definitely hard to believe with the corruption. Too bad we didn't have this conversation on the forum post, I think a lot of others would have benefited a great deal from our conversation. We should re-do the entire conversation on the post =) .
Pckts:
I'll try to follow your posts and we can have all new conversations for everyone. Most of the people here are firm believers, whether they take it on faith or fact. They also are very paranoid and jumpy that everyone is a troll, and everyone has an unrealistic fear of being "banned" from a website you could easily make another account on. Other than that they are great to talk to.
In this world, 'believing' is seen as such a powerful thing, when really it is not. Believing means that we have an interpretation of something and we choose to 'believe' that version of it. Not only that but our 'belief' is divided and divided.
So one could say do you believe in God. Yes or no, with no minority. One separation of belief, with no minority.
What is God? Multiple answer, with majority and minority. Multiple separation of belief, with many majorities and minorities.
What is your interpretation of that God? Multiple answer, with majority and minority. Multiple separation of belief, with many majorities and minorities.
And so the pyramid of separation of each other grows endless.
Belief is the operating system you choose to run in the computer of your mind.
However, can most operating systems run most software? Pretty much.
So regardless of belief, or difference of religion, or difference of doctrine, what do we have in common if we take away this 'incompatibility of righteousness'?
Well compared to inanimate or dead objects, we are all left with something extremely powerful when we have nothing. It's called love. Many would say God, but aren't they the same thing. Or is that illogical?
Love is the Unifier. And many maybe talk about God being the Unifier, but God is Love. However people make God in the image of people and their flawed mind of logic. I think the absolute opposite to Love is Logic.
If someone has faith, suspends reason, and does something that appears crazy or illogical, but it happened to be the right thing to do, that appears as illogical. An absolution of Logic makes one intelligent, but often loveless. Like how people here think they are doing the right thing when they intelligently dissect posts, using their logical capability. It is often deconstructive, rather than constructive.
Love is pressing the stop button and saying something nice instead. It seems illogical if you are wrapped up in argument or logical battles of wit. But Love is what brings God present; in all things. Arguments, finding a job, getting over the past, settling disputes.
If you struggle to 'know' love, regardless of whether you 'believe' in love, or maybe even have come to 'believe' that love brings much pain, or 'believe' that love comes from God (and does NOT have to come from you), or any of the trillions of 'beliefs' possible on any one subject, then how can you come to 'know' God?
People are often concerned with knowing God, or knowing Jesus, and yet knowing the more loving version of themselves; mehhh. This is who I am, they say. They are the enemy, they say. My belief is the right one, they say. I know more than them, they say. I speak for everyone, they say. All these thoughts, based on an operating system of logic loops, that quite often, like a computer are hard to break out of. And so the personality of someone becomes predictable. A renewed mind is replacing the operating system with the knowledge of what it really means to love, to love yourself, and to love others, all others, not conditionally others if you happen to like them, or more so if they live in the same country, or they like what you say, or they love you. Love is not logic, because, it could mean trying to love someone that you have decided you don't love. Logic would never let you do such a thing! Logic loops, hard to break out of, but, it is always possible to break outside of the box, to go the extra mile, to do something different to your programming. The programming that you think doesn't exist.
So one could say do you believe in God. Yes or no, with no minority. One separation of belief, with no minority.
What is God? Multiple answer, with majority and minority. Multiple separation of belief, with many majorities and minorities.
What is your interpretation of that God? Multiple answer, with majority and minority. Multiple separation of belief, with many majorities and minorities.
And so the pyramid of separation of each other grows endless.
Belief is the operating system you choose to run in the computer of your mind.
However, can most operating systems run most software? Pretty much.
So regardless of belief, or difference of religion, or difference of doctrine, what do we have in common if we take away this 'incompatibility of righteousness'?
Well compared to inanimate or dead objects, we are all left with something extremely powerful when we have nothing. It's called love. Many would say God, but aren't they the same thing. Or is that illogical?
Love is the Unifier. And many maybe talk about God being the Unifier, but God is Love. However people make God in the image of people and their flawed mind of logic. I think the absolute opposite to Love is Logic.
If someone has faith, suspends reason, and does something that appears crazy or illogical, but it happened to be the right thing to do, that appears as illogical. An absolution of Logic makes one intelligent, but often loveless. Like how people here think they are doing the right thing when they intelligently dissect posts, using their logical capability. It is often deconstructive, rather than constructive.
Love is pressing the stop button and saying something nice instead. It seems illogical if you are wrapped up in argument or logical battles of wit. But Love is what brings God present; in all things. Arguments, finding a job, getting over the past, settling disputes.
If you struggle to 'know' love, regardless of whether you 'believe' in love, or maybe even have come to 'believe' that love brings much pain, or 'believe' that love comes from God (and does NOT have to come from you), or any of the trillions of 'beliefs' possible on any one subject, then how can you come to 'know' God?
People are often concerned with knowing God, or knowing Jesus, and yet knowing the more loving version of themselves; mehhh. This is who I am, they say. They are the enemy, they say. My belief is the right one, they say. I know more than them, they say. I speak for everyone, they say. All these thoughts, based on an operating system of logic loops, that quite often, like a computer are hard to break out of. And so the personality of someone becomes predictable. A renewed mind is replacing the operating system with the knowledge of what it really means to love, to love yourself, and to love others, all others, not conditionally others if you happen to like them, or more so if they live in the same country, or they like what you say, or they love you. Love is not logic, because, it could mean trying to love someone that you have decided you don't love. Logic would never let you do such a thing! Logic loops, hard to break out of, but, it is always possible to break outside of the box, to go the extra mile, to do something different to your programming. The programming that you think doesn't exist.
I disagree I believe love should be done logically, why should I love someone who is evil and refuses to learn from the teachings of Christ? I love those who love me enough to be good. In my past I have rushed into love and pre-marital sex with partners who I emotionally felt a loving connection with, but that isn't love because I don't even know their personalities whether they are good or evil or whether we are compatible. So now I try to use logic and reasoning as much as God allows me to before I rush into love to make sure I don't waste my time on this Earth as well as keep my sexual partners to a minimum for my future wife who I expect to do the same for me. Hope she's a virgin though haha, and not a virgin meaning not married but a virgin meaning having no prior sexual partners.