Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

[Scribe]

LoL, ye that's the short answer...

Why do u like defending covid so much and the experimental vaccines???

It's a poll question not a defense. I expect that many people who answered no to the question about taking a vaccine when it was in testing will say yes to one that has been given to 90 million with no adverse affects to speak of.

 

[Scribe]

how do feel about vaccine mandates??

I am not hearing about any. I don't agree with anyone being told they have to get a vaccine if they don't want one. I don't agree with anyone trying to tell someone they are being ungodly for getting one.

The medical workers are not being forced to take them and those that don't are not losing their jobs. Unless there is something going on I have not heard about.

 

[gb9]

I am not hearing about any. I don't agree with anyone being told they have to get a vaccine if they don't want one. I don't agree with anyone trying to tell someone they are being ungodly for getting one.

The medical workers are not being forced to take them and those that don't are not losing their jobs. Unless there is something going on I have not heard about.

not hearing?

well, start listing...

 

[Lisamn]

The medical workers are not being forced to take them and those that don't are not losing their jobs. Unless there is something going on I have not heard about

Aren’t those in the medical community forced to get a flu shot? It’s not like they couldn’t force a covid shot.

 

[PC123]

It's a poll question not a defense. I expect that many people who answered no to the question about taking a vaccine when it was in testing will say yes to one that has been given to 90 million with

Fair enough, there are quite a few undecided people.
I was talking in general about your covid/vax apologetics.

with no adverse affects to speak of

Incorrect...



Many adverse effects to speak of

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10222740905605792

I am not hearing about any.

U haven't heard...



Well, now u have...



They want to make it an "incentive" to be able to get back our God-given rights...
This is criminal but people like yourself will excuse it just like every other criminal act has been excused...

I had made an agreement with a mate that the forcing of the experimental vaccine would be the measure of truth, that this pandemic is all just a scam. At the time he said it would never happen and called me a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist.

Now he says unless it becomes law ur still a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist...
Typical... Cognitive dissonance... Yet again

 

[PennEd]

Merck has decided not to play this absurd vaccine game anymore. They flat out say you have greater immunity by getting the virus than taking any vaccine.

https://summit.news/2021/01/26/merc...-more-effective-to-get-the-virus-and-recover/

 

[Scribe]

Fair enough, there are quite a few undecided people.
I was talking in general about your covid/vax apologetics.



Incorrect...

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Many adverse effects to speak of



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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10222740905605792

U haven't heard...

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Well, now u have...

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They want to make it an "incentive" to be able to get back our God-given rights...
This is criminal but people like yourself will excuse it just like every other criminal act has been excused...

I had made an agreement with a mate that the forcing of the experimental vaccine would be the measure of truth, that this pandemic is all just a scam. At the time he said it would never happen and called me a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist.

Now he says unless it becomes law ur still a tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist...
Typical... Cognitive dissonance... Yet again

Anyone can fact check these headlines and decide for themselves.

If people want to ignore 90 million vaccinated and choose one of these items you posted as their reason for not getting the vaccine that is on them.

Each headline you listed has been discussed in previous posts. I won't argue about them over again. It is too easy for someone to fact check so if they keep them as their proof this late in the game they are not open to fact check discussions and there is no reason to present the facts a second time in these threads.

So no, I am not a vaccine apologist but I am a voice of reason. And as a voice of reason I have presented fact checks once or twice when these headlines were initially brought up as proof of harm and after that I let people believe what they want.

It is not wise to get into an argument over these things. It is not Christian Character to argue about it. We are told to put away, and put off, these kinds of arguments that do not profit and that the servant of the Lord must not strive.

It is also not smart to get into an argument with an extremist on the internet. You never know who you are arguing with and what kind of rage they are capable of if you were to destroy their foolish reasonings in a debate. It is much better to disengage once you see that fact checking a post has no effect. If they did not say "Oh, thanks for that information, that is good to know" they are not going to say that the second time you post the fact check.

So to answer your question. I believe that these safety tested approved vaccines that are being distributed have proven to be safe and effective and I am exited about this in a very big way. I find it to be a huge positive thing that will be the solution to this virus and I am very hopeful that other mRNA vaccines for other diseases will be coming out in the near future as a result of the scientific medical breakthrough we have experienced in this great Global effort to war against this one virus.

You have your negative perceptions about a global conspiracy, fake pandemic, false reporting of deaths, and harmful vaccines, and I don't expect you to change that view. You are too personally invested in them at this point.

Not everyone is going to agree with you. Most are not. You have to get over being shocked that people are going to think that your cornbread ain't done in the middle and not let it make you angry. Life is too short to be outraged over why people don't agree with your line of reasoning. If you let it get to you, it won't be the virus that takes you out but your own negative stress hormones.

 

[JohnDB]

Merck has decided not to play this absurd vaccine game anymore. They flat out say you have greater immunity by getting the virus than taking any vaccine.

https://summit.news/2021/01/26/merc...-more-effective-to-get-the-virus-and-recover/

Not true...

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-...of-brazilian-city-exposed-to-sars-cov-2-68272

Herd immunity is impossible by having the virus...the only way to achieve it is by vaccinations.

 

[Scribe]

Merck has decided not to play this absurd vaccine game anymore. They flat out say you have greater immunity by getting the virus than taking any vaccine.

https://summit.news/2021/01/26/merc...-more-effective-to-get-the-virus-and-recover/

Their vaccine, was ineffective. They are not claiming that taking the Moderna or the Pfizer, or Astra Zeneca vaccine is ineffective.
It is interesting how your statement added the "Any vaccine" misinformation. If you read their statement they specifically said that it is not as effective "as those reported for other SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccines," They are only talking about their own V590, VF91 vaccine being inferior to those seen following natural infection. Not ANY vaccine.

"Results of Phase 1 clinical studies showed that the two vaccine candidates — known as V590 and V591 — "were generally well tolerated, but the immune responses were inferior to those seen following natural infection and those reported for other SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccines," Merck said in a statement about its decision."


And if you are well read on this subject you may remember statements from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, CDC and other organizations that they expected many of the vaccines under development to fail. But if a few are successful it would be worth building the factories to produce the dosages in advance even knowing the risk that the vaccine for that company might never get passed 2nd phase testing and the money spent setting up the factory would be for nothing. However, if one or two were successful they would not lose time waiting for the factories and distribution to be set up.

Unfortunately the distribution efforts seem to be slower than expectations. I want to go to the pharmacy and get mine and I can't.

 

[JohnDB]

Unfortunately the distribution efforts seem to be slower than expectations. I want to go to the pharmacy and get mine and I can't

I don't want to show the face I make when thinking about how my wife has gotten her vaccines and I can't seem to get mine.

 

[gb9]

hope your vaccines do you well.


i will not know, i will not be getting one.

i take supplements that boost my immune system.

a strong immune system is the best defense against any contagions...

 

[JohnDB]

hope your vaccines do you well.


i will not know, i will not be getting one.

i take supplements that boost my immune system.

a strong immune system is the best defense against any contagions...

Oh how I wish what you are saying was true...

So far all the science shows otherwise. True science and with true causative correlation... not just correlation without causation.

This isn't exactly a respiratory virus despite the media hype. It's an endocrine system virus. Which will affect your respiratory system but it affects every system in your body.

What is particularly troubling is going to be the birth defects and sterility from having this virus in the non-existent next generation. Coronavirus tend to cause severe birth defects long before the patient conceives...just like Zitka Fever does.

 

[gb9]

Oh how I wish what you are saying was true...

So far all the science shows otherwise. True science and with true causative correlation... not just correlation without causation.

This isn't exactly a respiratory virus despite the media hype. It's an endocrine system virus. Which will affect your respiratory system but it affects every system in your body.

What is particularly troubling is going to be the birth defects and sterility from having this virus in the non-existent next generation. Coronavirus tend to cause severe birth defects long before the patient conceives...just like Zitka Fever does.

and if you take vitamins and supplements and don't eat tons of junk food, then you will have a strong body and strong immune system.

be wary of people who make no money off of vitamins and supplements telling you they don't work.

the whole virus and death counts are way overblown anyway....

 

[PennEd]

Unfortunately the distribution efforts seem to be slower than expectations. I want to go to the pharmacy and get mine and I can't.

The evidence and science is becoming clearer. After getting a better grasp on how these genetic vaccines work, I am close to flat out saying these vaccines will eventually kill most people.

I know it’s probably too late to convince YOU. You have bought the garbage from people that hate you for so long, and believed the garbage from media sources they control, that almost nothing could convince you now.

But for others, I am convinced these vaccines have a good chance of killing you within a couple of yrs. Especially the elderly.

Please don’t get it.

 

[shittim]

Good thing He protects His own from all attacks of the enemy, and how easy He makes it to be His Own. Being an outward form Christian, and/or a pew warmer doesn't seem to do it.
I hope and pray for his grace, restoration and healing for all affected.

 

[Scribe]

The evidence and science is becoming clearer. After getting a better grasp on how these genetic vaccines work, I am close to flat out saying these vaccines will eventually kill most people.

I know it’s probably too late to convince YOU. You have bought the garbage from people that hate you for so long, and believed the garbage from media sources they control, that almost nothing could convince you now.

But for others, I am convinced these vaccines have a good chance of killing you within a couple of yrs. Especially the elderly.

Please don’t get it.

Which ones? They are using several different technologies.

Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine 66% effective in global trial, company says
J&J's COVID-19 vaccine requires a single shot as opposed to two doses

https://www.foxnews.com/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-66-effective-global-trial

Johnson & Johnson on Friday said its single-shot coronavirus vaccine was 72% effective in preventing moderate-to-severe COVID-19 in the U.S, but fell to 66% in a larger trial conducted worldwide. The results stem from a Phase 3 ENSEMBLE clinical trial, which involved 43,783 participants.

The shot was found to be 66% effective in preventing moderate-to-severe illness in Latin America, and 57% effective in South Africa at 28 days post-vaccination. When the company only looked at severe cases, protection rose to 85%.

J&J’s vaccine differs from currently approved jabs in the U.S. in that it requires a single shot as opposed to two doses, and was created using an adenovirus rather than mRNA technology.

 

[Scribe]

Which ones? They are using several different technologies.

Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine 66% effective in global trial, company says
J&J's COVID-19 vaccine requires a single shot as opposed to two doses

https://www.foxnews.com/health/johnson-johnson-covid-19-vaccine-66-effective-global-trial

Johnson & Johnson on Friday said its single-shot coronavirus vaccine was 72% effective in preventing moderate-to-severe COVID-19 in the U.S, but fell to 66% in a larger trial conducted worldwide. The results stem from a Phase 3 ENSEMBLE clinical trial, which involved 43,783 participants.

The shot was found to be 66% effective in preventing moderate-to-severe illness in Latin America, and 57% effective in South Africa at 28 days post-vaccination. When the company only looked at severe cases, protection rose to 85%.

J&J’s vaccine differs from currently approved jabs in the U.S. in that it requires a single shot as opposed to two doses, and was created using an adenovirus rather than mRNA technology.

Can you tell us more about how your investigational vaccine works?

Unlike mRNA vaccines, which use messenger RNA to create a protein that prompts an immune response in the body, our investigational COVID-19 vaccine uses an adenovirus—a type of virus that causes the common cold—that has been made unable to replicate. The adenovirus carries a gene from the coronavirus into human cells, which then produce the coronavirus spike protein, but not the coronavirus itself. This spike protein is what primes the immune system to fight off a subsequent infection by the virus.

There are a couple advantages to this approach. First, the adenovirus is well known in the human population. And we’ve used it before, in our Ebola vaccine and in investigational vaccines for HIV and RSV, so we have a lot of long-term safety data for it.
Secondly, it helps make a vaccine temperature stable.
The vaccine technology we've used can remain stable for two years at -4° F, and at least three months at 35-46° F, which is about the temperature of your home refrigerator. It may be stable for even longer at refrigerator temperatures, and we are actively collecting stability data now to see how long we can go. We believe this stability will help make it easier to transport and distribute our COVID-19 vaccine candidate without the need for shipping at special temperatures.

https://www.jnj.com/innovation/ques...YcKn0x0MXRjarsX0fj5gbRn3tw0clZ4pG6N8aMIugCE_I

 

[Scribe]

hope your vaccines do you well.


i will not know, i will not be getting one.

i take supplements that boost my immune system.

a strong immune system is the best defense against any contagions...

Yes, that is what a vaccine does. It causes your own immune system to produce antibodies that eating broccoli and orange juice won't achieve.

 

[gb9]

Yes, that is what a vaccine does. It causes your own immune system to produce antibodies that eating broccoli and orange juice won't achieve.

i take about 10 different vitamins and supplements pretty much every day. also, pure turmeric mixed with olive oil ( the body absorbs it better that way), and a apple cider vinegar - ginger-red pepper mix.


all those things build a strong immune system. better than a vax....

 

[Scribe]

i take about 10 different vitamins and supplements pretty much every day. also, pure turmeric mixed with olive oil ( the body absorbs it better that way), and a apple cider vinegar - ginger-red pepper mix.


all those things build a strong immune system. better than a vax....

Sounds good. It won't protect you from polio. Vaccine will.