THE SOLUTION

[toinena]

There is no conspiracy. And we don't need any theory. The answer is simple. Satan rules this world. And he uses his trickery to steal, kill and destroy. Are there evil organisations in this world? Absolutely. Do I fear them? No. Do I prepare for bad things to happen? Yes. Does that make me negative and stopping me to live and serve the Lord? No. That is the solution. To see who is behind. And you know the truth in Jesus, and that will set you free. We shouldn't fear. We shouldn't get our head occupied with NWO, Illuminati, Freemasons or the Vatican. We should serve Christ, be true to our calling and love our neighbour
For me Satan uses the fear of conspiracy as much as he uses the conspirators.

 

[Magenta]

people thrive on chaos and on secrecy and honestly I bet if there was no secrecy or conspiracy they would make one up.

With whom did you conspire to come up with this theory? Out with it, young man, we know you are always up to something, even if it is only your subconscious mind working overtime. It would be best for you if you just told us all now, otherwise, the consequences will be dire. Never forget: Vee haz vays to make zee tock...

 

[Lynx]

Admittedly, post #29 was - in part - a bit of a rant. However, it was not my intent to insult or belittle anyone. My intent was to illustrate the fact that no solution can be had unless [ enough of ] the masses are properly informed - and they understand - what is really going on in our world. And, like in the movie THE MATRIX, the masses - being 'ignorant' of the truth - would rather "stay plugged into the MATRIX" rather than know - and act on - the truth.

That I can understand - not necessarily agree with, but I can understand you when you say it.

But we both know that will not happen. Y'all have been saying the same things for how many decades now? It isn't going to happen. So let's move on to what we CAN do instead of beating a drum in a vacuum.

And yes I know you are going to keep beating the drum. It costs me nothing, so beat away. But in the meantime, do you have any suggestions for things we can do? Is there any plan of action besides "We have to get the word out"?

See this is the reason so many people are not listening to you. They have heard it all before, but they never hear a solution. All they ever hear is "Something is wrong!" and "We have to get the word out to everyone!" They never hear "This is what we need to do about it!" If we actually had a plan, something we can do every day, or something we can work toward being able to do, I think a lot more people would actually listen to you.

Including me.

 

[GaryA]

Yes - there are things you can do. I will see if I can include some of those those things in future posts...

In the meanwhile, you have to understand just how important "getting the word out" really is. I will try to illustrate it thus:

One man standing against the illuminati will only get him killed and strike fear in the rest of the people who witness it.

One hundred million people standing against the illuminati ( together, congruently ), on the other hand...

Do you see what I am saying?

A nation full of unbelieving misinformed disorganized fearful people can do nothing to help anyone.

Without a sufficient number of people being "educated" about the true nature of the reality of the world we live in, our society will simply unwittingly continue to [ actually ] support the 'system' that has enslaved them -- and, no solutions can be had.

Once "educated", people have to have a true desire to no longer support that 'system' - and, find ways to implement that into their lives.

If I give you a solution -- and, it makes sense to you -- and, you decide to incorporate it into your daily life -- then -- it would have never happened if there were no others who cared enough about helping you to arrive at the proper conclusion and make a proper action.

When people do nothing but nay-say whatever information is put forth, it doesn't exactly encourage anyone to "move forward" in a discussion.

Who would try to give a nay-sayer any information? Isn't that just wasted words in the ears of someone who is not listening and is not really interested?

FIRST - people have to listen. And, they have to give indication of it.

FIRST - people have to take an interest. And, they have to give indication of it.

What you may not be "seeing" fully yet is -- there are many "solutions" that become painfully obvious the moment you understand the truth about [ something in particular ] -- because of the nature of that understanding.

In such a case, giving you the information is far better than trying to convince you to adopt the solution. Once you understand the information, you will automatically have the solution ( Which, in some cases, you would never accept without first understanding the information. ) -- because, the solution becomes 'obvious' once you understand the information.

It's not rocket science. But, people have to be interested in the truth about the reality of the world they live in - or, it will not do them any good.

The most important thing a person can do is to have a true desire to know the truth about the reality of the world they live in - "even if it hurts" - and, to seek that truth - to get the answers - that lead to the solutions.

Most "solutions" work better if you already understand why the solution is needed.

The 'Awakening' of the video in post #33 has to do with - more than anything else - a 'paradigm' shift in the way you think. People have to "break free" from the way they have been taught to think all-of-their-life to a different way of thinking - a "higher" level of realization about the world they live in.

This should be easier to accomplish by Christians -- who should already understand that Satan really is that evil.

People have to come to grips with the realization of truth that - not everything they think of as 'normal' in this world really actually is. A lot of the everyday "stuff" that our society believes in and trusts - because the "authorities" say so - "does not have to be that way" ( I plan to give some examples later...? ) -- but, people are resistant to change - and do not want to have to consider anything different -- even if it will "liberate" them from the 'slavery' they are clutching onto so dearly.

Most people who think they are "free" do not realize just how 'enslaved' they really are. And, it is because they have been well-trained to think that way.

There is a lot more "psychological warfare" - and "brain-washing" - going on in this world than most people realize.

If we actually had a plan, something we can do every day, or something we can work toward being able to do, I think a lot more people would actually listen to you.

Including me.

Congratulations!

In all of the years I have been on CC, I honestly believe that this is the FIRST time ANYONE ( other than a 'truther' ) has EVER indicated that they might be truly interested in what any 'truther' had to say.

Most people have had a [ usually severe ] nay-say mentality, and have nothing fruitful to say -- until now.

Thank you!

Now do you understand why 'truthers' don't seem to say anything but "We have to get the word out" ?

It is because there is no indication that anyone wants to have an honest intelligent conversation about it. As long as disbelief and 'ridicule' are the only responses, why do you think anyone would try to engage someone like that in a meaningful conversation? Until there is a proper response, there is no need to go any further. Does this make sense?

And now -- you have made a proper response.

However, what good is a "solution" or a "plan" if someone is not informed enough to understand why they need a solution or plan?

THIS is why is it so important for people to have the presence-of-mind and the inclination to want to read / watch the 'information' posts / videos that 'truthers' offer for the sole purpose of spreading the truth about [ whatever ].

Yes - there is a lot of misinformation out there. Like anything else in life, you simply have to learn to discern the good from the bad.

 

[GaryA]

Get educated on tricks that governments play with their population like taking away permament freedoms for temporary security (hegelian dialectic)

form networks with like minded people and exchange information.

Get right with God learn as much as you can about the word and live the word.

presume that a banking collaspe is only 72 hours away from happening keep some supplies around for it.

The first two are just variations of the "We have to let people know!" that I always hear from conspiracy theorists.

But -- if you don't do those two things -- what have you got? How do you know what to do? How do you know what the solutions are? How can you know the solutions if you don't know the truth about the real world? How do you know who you can trust? And, who you cannot trust?

If you don't do those two things -- you have no information upon which to base a solution - and, no way to accomplish those things you cannot do all-by-yourself.

If you don't do those two things -- you will not be able to come up with any workable solutions.

Are you yet starting to understand why those two things play the most important part in the significance of any solution?!?

 

[GaryA]

If you think this is slavery, how is it people are overweight, indulgent in entertainment and leisure,
with freedoms to travel anywhere. This is freedom, not slavery, though it shows that many are
slaves to sin and not righteousness.

Do you think this is "freedom"...???

I've had my son kidnapped by the system for refusal to vaccinate, and also for home-schooling. Other parents have had their children kidnapped for off-grid related lifestyles. To have a police officer come to your home and leave with your child...you cannot imagine the pain and anxiety unless you've had it happen to you. If you have children, be prepared for this eventuality. The establishment will claim that you are neglecting your child, and with a pen stroke they will kidnap your child. Once you birth a child in a hospital and sign that birth certificate, THEY OWN YOUR CHILD.

If you view the Native American documentary'Red Cry', you'll see that the wasichu have already done this to thousands upon thousands of N.A. children. Some of their children were tortured, raped, abused, and some were killed and never seen again.

So, again, if you have children or want to have children, off-grid living is a very serious matter to consider...however, if you truly love your child, off-grid really is the only option. I wish I was off-grid when my son was born...the system would never have known about him. I had to voluntarily poison my child to get him back and I still hate myself for it, though they would have kept my child and vaccinated anyway if I didn't voluntarily agree. And yes, parents have had their children kidnapped, and then given the children chemotherapy instead of holistic cancer cures (which are far more effective and less traumatic to the body), based on a doctor's recommendation/report of medical neglect.

I've read a few comments from various people on CC who say that people who don't vaccinate their children are this or that...well, those are the types of people who will try and kidnap your children, thinking they are doing something good...or knowing it's bad, they'll go along with orders, just to keep their comfortable jobs.

Just for a second...imagine being forced to inject mercury and formaldehyde (and who knows what else) into your own child's veins. I still feel guilty for agreeing to it. I hate them (and myself) for what they made me do to regain custody of my own child.

The sad thing is...the people who kidnapped my son believed that what they were doing was right. That's the level of brainwashing/conditioning that many social workers and police have. They really believe they have the right to kidnap other people's children!

 

[GaryA]

If there is conspiracy all around us, what are we supposed to do about it?

The first thing you do about it is to learn all you can about it. Understand what it is and why it is - and who is behind it.

And, if you will do that -- you will not have to ask me or anyone else:

"What is the next step...?"

If you are not willing to learn about it, then you should simply do nothing - and be a part of the problem, like everyone [ else ] who is apathetic about being told that they are voluntarily giving up their freedoms one-by-one because they don't care enough to understand how and why it is being done...

 

[GaryA]

BTW...

If anyone is offended by the straight-forwardness of my statements, please consider it to be a form of "tough love"...

I am not trying to point any fingers. I am speaking very generally about this topic. No one is being "targeted"...

 

[GaryA]

The theory goes something like this:
A: Conspiracy theorists don't really care about the conspiracies, at least not enough to DO anything about them. They just like yelling about them.
B. Conspiracy theorists never provide solutions, things normal people can actually do about the conspiracies, because that would crimp the whole yelling thing.
C. Conspiracy theorists enjoy the smug, superior feeling that comes from "I know something you don't know." They also seem to really get off on calling other people idiots, much the same way people in some churches really like to put other denominations down.

This is just propaganda - where people who actually care enough to try to help you are concerned.

If I say "wake up" to someone, that is not calling them an idiot. If they take it that way, it is their erroneous perception.

I do try to be as tactful as possible while still trying to get the point across.

 

[GaryA]

Needless to say, the real answer - and the real solution - is Christ.

And, there is not going to be a real solution until Jesus comes back.

Why?

Because the masses are too focused on the little red dot on the wall to notice who is holding the laser pen-light. Like the cat, they follow the little red dot wherever it goes - chasing after it -- never realizing the game that is being played on them at their expense. Intrigued by the little red dot, the cat never rationalizes what the little red dot is and why it moves as it does. And, if you try to tell the cat what is going on -- the cat will deny the possibility of it - and, soon the cat is intrigued by the little red dot once again...

Anyone who understands what I am saying here --- understands a lot --- about the true nature of humanity. And, why it is so difficult to "unplug from the MATRIX" anyone who is faithfully following the little red dot. I say 'faithfully' because - well - people are like that...

It is all-too-easy to distract people from what is most important. And, the-evil-powers-that-be know this. And, they know just how to keep everyone distracted from what is most important - by giving them plenty of other things to occupy their minds - and time - and energy - and money -- so that they do not stay focused on the things that matter...

 

[GaryA]

But we both know that will not happen.

Exactly...

There are two types of "solutions" to consider:

~ Fully regaining our freedoms, way-of-life, etc.

This involves putting an end to the works of Satan in the world today. While it is technically possible, it is highly improbable.

~ Preparation for what is coming upon the earth.

If you will consider biblical End Times prophecy, you will most probably recognize that things are not going to be getting any better before Jesus returns...

 

[Lynx]

Holy crap in a can! GaryA I actually read all you wrote, and it all boils down to one statement: "I am right and you should be listening to me."

You still haven't told me any solutions. So I will rephrase the question.

What are YOU doing about all these conspiracies? Stockpiling food? What kinds and how much do you think you will need? Are you implementing off-the-grid electric power at your house? What power systems work best? Aside from haranguing people about conspiracies, what are you doing yourself to counteract, get ready for or survive the consequences of them?

Maybe if you tell me what you are doing, I will be able to glean some ideas about what you should be telling other people they can do about these conspiracies.

 

[GaryA]

Holy crap in a can! GaryA I actually read all you wrote, and it all boils down to one statement: "I am right and you should be listening to me."

Good heavens, no! That is not my attitude at all.

I think surely you must have a preconceived notion about me that causes you to react this way.

I am only giving my thoughts on the subject. You may certainly disregard it as simply my opinion.

It is not 'me' that I want anyone to listen to. It is 'truth' that I want people to listen to -- the truth of the scriptures - and, the truth about the reality of the world we live in.

I am not that important.

But, truth is...

You still haven't told me any solutions.

Impatient, much?

The truth is - what I have told you - you have ignored. You have a "point" to make. And, you are waiting for me to say something "appropriate" so that you can make it. You are not really interested in understanding the true nature of the reality of the world you live in.

Have you -- watched the videos? -- read the articles? -- spent much time doing your own research?

What have you done to educate yourself about the true nature of the reality of the world you live in?

What are YOU doing about all these conspiracies? Stockpiling food? What kinds and how much do you think you will need? Are you implementing off-the-grid electric power at your house? What power systems work best? Aside from haranguing people about conspiracies, what are you doing yourself to counteract, get ready for or survive the consequences of them?

There is very little that I personally can do right now. I do not own land. I am unemployed. I have no income. While I have the technical "know-how" to make an "easy" $100,000 / year, I have been unable to make even $25,000 / year for several years now. Long story... ( Don't make any assumptions about why this has been -- you do not know the details. )

So -- what I am left with - is warning others so that they may take whatever measures they deem necessary for their own lives.

I am just a messenger. That is just about all I can be right now.

So -- "Don't shoot the messenger." ( Yeah, I just had to put that in... )

Maybe if you tell me what you are doing, I will be able to glean some ideas about what you should be telling other people they can do about these conspiracies.

What I am doing is getting the message across to you - so that you know there are things about this world you need to know more about.

Now - it is your responsibility to do the necessary research to determine what you need to do in response to what is happening in the world.

The only thing I "should" be telling other people -- is what I am doing now. My "job" in this scenario is to help others understand the true nature of the reality of the world they live in. It is up to them to decide what they should do with that information and understanding.

So -- don't be lazy. Don't try to put your responsibility on me. You - yourself - need to do the research...

While you have "made a proper response", I don't see the sincerity to back it up.

 

[Lynx]

Actually YOU seem to have some (rather cynical) preconceived notions about ME. Or perhaps you have lumped me in with a group of people that you label "unbelievers who ridicule me" in your mind. More than half of what you said about me in your most recent post is not at all applicable to me.

But it does tell me a few things. First, it tells me that you have grown accustomed to, even come to expect people to stop listening and start ridiculing you as soon as you say something that they identify as conspiracy theories. Second, it tells me that you already know your current approach is not working. But you continue with your current methods anyway...

At that point I have three options.
1. You continue with what doesn't work because you can't think of any better way to approach the situation.
2. You continue because you don't really want to solve the problem, you just like to yell at people.
3. You continue because you're secretly a masochist and you really like for people to ridicule you.

The first one is most probable for any sane person, so I'll go with that. You know what you are doing will not work but you continue because you can't think of anything better to do about it.

Unfortunately I can't suggest any better way myself. You have my sympathy though. It must be a frustrating life you live.

 

[pckts]

Here is the solution I tell people when I do "conspiracy talk". First I try to show them evil and lies in the world, then I tell them not to trust man's authority and to reject all the lies they believe. Then I tell them Christ is God and The Bible is his accurate word, not to associate institutional religion and teachings with direct teachings from The Bible. I cite the verse of Christ telling us not to refer to our religious teachers as father or teacher and other examples that present an accurate and contrary view of the religion they are currently rejecting or ignoring. I also show them the "men of science and reason" are into occultism and magic, to turn them current views of what is logical and true upside down.

Then I tell the people the most important thing to do is get on board with God and Christ's solution to all of our problems, the second coming. Ensure they are accepted by God spiritually during Judgement Day, Armageddon, The End of The World, or whatever they think of it as.

I don't believe things are going to "get better" or that we can prepare for them physically, because The Bible tells us Satan is going to institute the mark of the beast and His Wrath will come. There is nothing we can do to change that, all we can do is prepare for it and this is something you do spiritually, not physically by moving to the mountains, buying canned foods, or knowing the specific times of events.

I use to search for a "solution" to overthrow whatever conspiracies are occurring and to save myself from their implications. Satan is too strong and we can't thwart him on our own, and The Bible tells us this in more ways than one. We can't save our "lives" by saving our bodies from harm. Saving your soul is the solution to save your life and live in a world free of conspiracy.

Simple answer: Become part of God's plan and solution.

Maybe you don't hear this enough because the theorists you are dealing with are on this website and we don't feel the need to preach to the choir, or they are unbelievers or not fully grasping what God's solution is. This isn't just my belief of what to do it's also what I think is the practical solution to all the problems conspiracies present or uncover. Let God remove the evil as He has foretold us he will in the future, and make sure you aren't part of the evil when He does it.

And I tell or argue conspiracies to people already on board with the proper solution, to expose evil and lies just to do it, and so that these people can pass the information on to more people who may not be on board with the solution.

 

[PeterJens]

The flat earthers are here.

Not surprising if you hold a flat earth idea everyone else is a liar and out to get you.
At this point I have to say, the doors of the mental hospital close, and there is not
much more to say. It is always an interesting ride but nothing will change, as long
as these guys are not armed and decide to take people out before the conspiracy take
full hold.

And make no mistake, in history, enough nutcases do this, so real insanity and evil does
come to reign.

 

[Lynx]

pckts: That is the second time in this thread I have had to "like" a conspiracy theorist's post. Well stated, man.

Wait, maybe THAT is the real sign that the end is upon us, when I have to agree with something a conspiracy theorist said!

 

[GaryA]

pckts: That is the second time in this thread I have had to "like" a conspiracy theorist's post. Well stated, man.

Wait, maybe THAT is the real sign that the end is upon us, when I have to agree with something a conspiracy theorist said!

I said what pckts said in the first two lines of post #30. Only, you didn't "like" that post probably because of what I wrote in the rest of that post. However, truth is truth. The first part of that post is the truth AND the last part of that post is the truth. And, getting people to recognize and realize the truth is all I am trying to do.

Thank you pckts for making plain what I apparently did not.

I agree with pckts that "prepping" is not necessarily the best approach. Now - prepping is always good for "natural disasters", etc. However, it will not keep you safe from the NWO military police when "that" day comes.

Ultimately, the central part of the "message" is - and must be - "to let go of the world and follow God / Christ" - believe and trust in God / Christ - and, get as close to God as you can. This is the necessary first part of any "solution" in this topic; everything after that is a matter of extricating yourself as much as possible from the 'system' and living with as little dependence on it as possible. ( This part of prepping is not actually prepping at all; rather, it is making a life change that you work to institute and maintain for the rest of your life. )

The only real solutions in this topic exist in the form of co-dependence and cooperation of groups of people who operate "outside" of the 'system'. The main problem with doing this seems to be that most people are too dependent on - and too comfortable with - being "inside" the 'system' ( Like the guy in the movie THE MATRIX who wanted to be [ permanently ] "plugged back in" to the MATRIX. ) -- and, are not able to see - or, refuse to see - the sheer magnitude of the critical importance of doing it.

This is the solution you seek.

Only, people are not going to do it - because, they don't understand why it is that they need to do it - and - because, they are too easily distracted by the little red dot...

The first thing requires "educating" the individual on "how things really run in the world"; overcoming the second thing requires having good self-discipline - after having been "educated" about the true nature of the reality of the world they live in.

Do you yet see how vitally important this "education" really is?

After all -- if you are totally unaware of the fact that you "sold your child into slavery" when you applied for their birth certificate -- how are you going to understand why it is that "they" can come take your child away from you at will?

It is because - as far as "they" are concerned - they own your child. And, you gave them ownership of your child when you applied for the birth certificate.

Unless you are "educated" about "how things really run in the world", how are you going to understand that you do not actually own anything that you think you own? That you have been "tricked" into giving the State full ownership of your entire life?

Of course, from God's perspective - none of these things are actually real. And, it is true that it is all 'fiction'. But, your voluntary action to play a part in this 'fiction' is what has you "enslaved" in the 'system'.

Do you understand the "corporate fiction" that is your ALL-CAPS name?

Do you understand the true nature of the United States of America corporation? And, the individual States also?

Do you understand Common Law and Maritime Law? Do you understand how the court system really works?

Do you understand the true nature of the international banking system? And that all of our money is debt?

Do you understand what the man in this video is trying to get across to you - so that you will wake up?

*** There are a few very graphic images in this video. ***

( But, you really need to hear the message that it contains. )

[video=youtube;BGlWtXKBO-w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGlWtXKBO-w[/video]

 

[GaryA]

Posted on YouTube nearly five years ago - according to the publication date listed:

[video=youtube;ELJKQctSpKA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELJKQctSpKA[/video]

How "new" is this information to you?

 

[Lynx]

GaryA I have been trying to be polite, despite your habit of using this thread as yet another place to post long screeds. But if you want to know why I "liked" his post and not all your posts, there are three reasons.

One, his post stayed on topic. He didn't spend lots of internet ink to rehash all the conspiracy rhetoric that so many people have spent so much time posting in so many other threads. HE STAYED ON TOPIC. Can you imagine that?

Two, he didn't spend three fifths of his post complaining about people not listening to him.

Three, he said what he came to say and that was all he said. He didn't inflate his post by repeating or rephrasing the same concept seventeen times.

But the fourth reason is the most important. He was polite. He didn't try to insult me, he didn't try to make it MY fault for not knowing all the things he knows and he didn't intimate I was a blind idiot for not believing what he believes.



Now, Gary... do you have any more questions? Or can we get back to solutions? I was hoping to get some data on home solar systems, but I'm afraid you scared off the real information sources.