THE SOLUTION

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
25,920
8,581
113
#61
Yes I know the previous post was slightly rude. Like I said, I WAS trying to be polite. I gave up.
 
Mar 11, 2016
3,055
242
63
Singapore
abigail.pro
#62
These... 'theories' don't seem to sit well with an Asian mind. I just can't wrap my head around why people would think this.
 
G

GaryA

Guest
#63
This is not a pissing contest, Lynx.

If you would like -- I will leave the thread. How about that? That will show you how nice I can be.

I am only stating the truth. If it hurts too much to face the truth, then - I am sorry you cannot handle it.

However, it also illustrates a form of proof of some of the things I have been saying about the way people "are"...

I did mention a "specific" solution. Did you totally ignore it? Or, did you simply dismiss it because it was in my post?


"You still don't get it..."


Let me try a different approach:

The solution, the Plan of Action, the way out, the roadmap for navigating all these problems... Anybody got one?

...

...

We're waiting...

I hear a lot of conspiracy theories but the one thing missing from all of them is what we should be DOING about all this. A lot of people like to shout about something being wrong, but nobody ever has anything to say about any action we should be taking.

9/11 was planned? That's cheerful. So what do we need to do about it?

The moon landing was a lie? Well I never went to space, but what should we be doing about this?

The earth is really flat? Not sure who profits from that lie, but what do you want people to do about it?

Come on guys, give us some solutions already. We're tired of hearing about everybody in power and authority being against us. We're tired of hearing about The Big Lie. Give us something we can DO about it already.
To anyone who knows "any" truth about "any" part of the world-wide conspiracy that is will see this OP as a "nay-say" sort of criticism -- a flippant and scornful insult against the truth. And, in the context of the thread topic, it is a self-defeating question. In a similar way that we talk about an 'anti-christ' as opposing Christ:

'naysayer' => Anti-Solution

A careful reading of the OP will show forth that it is not "asking a serious question that is well-meaning"; but, rather - it is a troll-level insinuation that "laughs" at the "unbelievable" nature of the issue - and "spits in the face" of any who dare take it seriously.


Do you always laugh at those who care enough to try to help you?


With an attitude like that, do you really think anyone is going to take your question seriously? ( As though you were actually serious. )


Consider the questions in the OP:

Anyone who truly believes that 9/11 was an inside job - already knows the solution.

Expose the truth about it. Find out who was behind it. Try to prevent future false-flag events before they happen.

Just to name a few.

How about the moon landing?

"Oh, my - what to do - what to do."


Expose the truth about it. Find out why it was faked. Find out what else is being faked or lied about.

Just to name a few.


Do you see why 'sincerety' plays such a major role in finding a solution?


I have been telling you the solution "the whole time", and you have been ignoring it.


The very FIRST step of ANY solution on this topic - that is absolutely required if any solution is to be had - is - that YOU * MUST * BELIEVE that there REALLY * DOES * EXIST a world-wide conspiracy.

Until you really actually honest-to-God TRULY believe it, there CAN * BE * NO * SOLUTION.

( As far as you are concerned. So, why even ask the question? )

You can "nay-say" it to death -- and, you will never have a solution. Why? Because, people who do not really actually honest-to-God TRULY believe it - cannot and will not have the fortitude to formulate - or follow - any kind of workable solution.

It is that simple.

Until enough people know about it - or the right people know about it - nothing - or, very-precious-little - can be done.

( Has either one of these criteria been met yet? No? Then, what do you think the solution is? Well, whatever the full solution entails, it definitely minimally requires "getting the truth out" to a whole lot more folks - don't you think??? What are you doing about it? )

And, if you are not "on board" with the truth, then you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.


Unless you are faithfully following someone who you 100% completely trust - such that you will do whatever they say without question - you are in a hopeless situation, as far as the thread topic is concerned.


And, if you feel insulted by what I say --- then, you need to swallow your pride and put your emotions on hold long enough to look at the information that I am trying to impart. Because, I am not trying to insult anyone. If you somehow feel targeted by the generalizations I have made about people-at-large, then you need to ask yourself whether or not "the shoe fits"...


As long as you have the attitude that only wishes to either "shoot down" or "poke fun" at other people's suggestions ( before they even make them, no less ) -- your question becomes moot and unreal.


The fact that you [ seem to ] think I am somehow against you -- as opposed to simply trying to get you to see - and acknowledge - the truth -- illustrates your frame of mind. You are "focused" on me instead of the information. ( Which is ridiculous - because, I have told you that I am not what is important here. And, your accusations that paint me as self-absorbed are entirely unfounded. )

If you are focused on me, then Satan has beguiled you - causing you to overlook the information - which is the most important thing.

I will say it again. I am not important. The information is what is important. So - keep your focus on the information, and not on me.


You are only reacting out of the 'fear-factor' of this issue. And, perhaps, a 'smug' attitude towards the whole issue -- which seems apparent in the OP.


You cannot "spit in the face" of any issue and have a serious intelligent conversation about it at the same time.

Perhaps you should leave the thread --- and not come back until you are willing to take the issue seriously.
 
G

GaryA

Guest
#64
Yes I know the previous post was slightly rude. Like I said, I WAS trying to be polite. I gave up.
I am not holding any grudges. :)

"Don't sweat it..."

Just understand that I am not intending to be anything other than polite.

It is not my intent to insult, ridicule, or offend anyone in any way.

I am not angry. I am not "yelling" at anyone. I write the way I do for emphasis - because of the importance of the issue and the information.

I am trying to impart information. That is all.

Don't take it personally.

Forget about me --- just pay attention to the information. :D

Okay?
 
G

GaryA

Guest
#65
These... 'theories' don't seem to sit well with an Asian mind. I just can't wrap my head around why people would think this.
I would just-as-much rather these things not be true as the next guy...

Unfortunately, Satan really is "that" evil - and - there are people on this earth who really are "that" evil.

:(
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
24,922
13,483
113
#66
Having scanned this thread, I'm reminded of Jesus' words... "Do not worry about what you will eat or drink or what you will wear, for your Father knows you need these things."

I came, I juked, I'm out. :)
 

Fenner

Senior Member
Jan 26, 2013
7,507
111
0
#67
The solution, the Plan of Action, the way out, the roadmap for navigating all these problems... Anybody got one?

...

...

We're waiting...

I hear a lot of conspiracy theories but the one thing missing from all of them is what we should be DOING about all this. A lot of people like to shout about something being wrong, but nobody ever has anything to say about any action we should be taking.

9/11 was planned? That's cheerful. So what do we need to do about it?

The moon landing was a lie? Well I never went to space, but what should we be doing about this?

The earth is really flat? Not sure who profits from that lie, but what do you want people to do about it?

Come on guys, give us some solutions already. We're tired of hearing about everybody in power and authority being against us. We're tired of hearing about The Big Lie. Give us something we can DO about it already.

Well my solution works for me, may not work for others and that's okay, but I enjoy taking things one day at a time and living in the moment. I also stockpile alcohol, so if any bad really goes down, like I fall off the flat earth, I won't feel it.

Disclosure; I don't stockpile alcohol, that was a joke.
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
25,920
8,581
113
#68
I am not holding any grudges. :)

"Don't sweat it..."

Just understand that I am not intending to be anything other than polite.

It is not my intent to insult, ridicule, or offend anyone in any way.

I am not angry. I am not "yelling" at anyone. I write the way I do for emphasis - because of the importance of the issue and the information.

I am trying to impart information. That is all.

Don't take it personally.

Forget about me --- just pay attention to the information. :D

Okay?
Right after you called me a troll, you called me an anti-solution, you said I was spitting in the face of the solution AND you accused me of reacting out of fear. Yeah. Real polite.

Oh well. At least we still have the first page of this thread. THAT was profitable discussion.
 
T

toinena

Guest
#70
And here are different solutions for waterfilters. I like it, because it also gives clean water to people in need.

LifeStraw - We make contaminated water safe to drink.

That, firewood and alternative heating, food and toiletpaper and you are ready to go. Atleast for some months. You are a Lynx. You know how to survive.
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
25,920
8,581
113
#71
I am a domestic lynx. I like to stay indoors.

And people didn't always have toilet paper... But I don't know how well a corncob would flush in modern toilets.

Seriously though, thanks toinena. Interesting thing, that LifeStraw.
 

Eli1

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2022
3,778
1,340
113
46
#72
The conspiracy in this topic Lynx, is that you are controlled opposition. :cool:
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
33,947
6,000
113
#73
The solution, the Plan of Action, the way out, the roadmap for navigating all these problems... Anybody got one?

...

...

We're waiting...

I hear a lot of conspiracy theories but the one thing missing from all of them is what we should be DOING about all this. A lot of people like to shout about something being wrong, but nobody ever has anything to say about any action we should be taking.

9/11 was planned? That's cheerful. So what do we need to do about it?

The moon landing was a lie? Well I never went to space, but what should we be doing about this?

The earth is really flat? Not sure who profits from that lie, but what do you want people to do about it?

Come on guys, give us some solutions already. We're tired of hearing about everybody in power and authority being against us. We're tired of hearing about The Big Lie. Give us something we can DO about it already.
We have already laid out the solution repeatedly, so this claim that no one is giving the actions we need to take is simply not true.

Jesus told us all these were going to happen, I have tried to document the dozens of prophecies from the Bible that have been fulfilled or that we can see being fulfilled right in front of our eyes. Therefore, since Jesus saw all this 2,000 years ago and told us this is what we would see we should listen to Him and what His advice on our action should be.

1. The church -- the Spirit is like a fire and anyone knows when making a campfire you need to put the logs together. Hebrews tells us to not abandon the assembling of ourselves together and so much the more as you see the day approaching. Much of the problems on this thread of conspiracies is due to the church becoming weak, apostate, and feeble. We should be positive members in the church, watching for the Lord's return and feeding the members at the appropriate time.

2. Fill your vessel with oil -- you need to spend time in the word, in prayer, in worship. When the Lord returns he finds ten virgins waiting for his return but five were foolish, they didn't fill their vessels with oil, and He said "He didn't know them". We have to spend time with Jesus, how shameful being a Christian who doesn't have a personal relationship with Jesus.

3. Ministry -- the Lord said His return would be like giving three people talents and two traded with them and made the Lord a profit and one buried his in the backyard. We are all servants of the Lord and must be responding to the burden the Lord gives us. We have received different talents, different gifts, but it is our job to make the most of them.

In the end all these things point to the soon return of Jesus. He said when you see all these things take place, look up, because your redemption draws nigh.
 

Eli1

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2022
3,778
1,340
113
46
#74
Lynx how do you respond to this never-heard-before proposition?
Is he a RINO or is he controlled opposition?
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
25,920
8,581
113
#75
This thread brings back memories. Ah, good times.

Back when I started this thread, if I recall correctly, there was a lot of conspiracy seepage into the other forums.

What caused you to dig this old thing up? Really that bored?
 

kinda

Senior Member
Jun 26, 2013
3,799
1,460
113
#76
The solution is different for each individual.

First, why did you mention flat earth? It’s not a conspiracy, but an online cult.

Anyways, why do people watch the news? To stay informed. Why do people seek the truth? To stay informed. It’s up to each individual to decide what they do with information.

I think the main theme in many of these theads is that you can’t trust the government. The Covid 19 show sorta highlighted this theme.

The bottom line for me is to have access to the truth to make good decisions. If you rely solely on mainstream news, you might make a bad decision.

We all hope and pray God will direct our paths, but isn’t there a passage that says, my people die for a lack of knowledge, or something close to this?

So, if someone wants to ignore the truther movement, that’s their choice, but don’t say, you were looking it for it.

If you want a solution, pray to God. Let me know, if you got an answer. Maybe it’s not quite time for action, but maybe preparing is prudent.
 

Lynx

Folksy yet erudite
Aug 13, 2014
25,920
8,581
113
#77
The solution is different for each individual.

First, why did you mention flat earth? It’s not a conspiracy, but an online cult.

Anyways, why do people watch the news? To stay informed. Why do people seek the truth? To stay informed. It’s up to each individual to decide what they do with information.

I think the main theme in many of these theads is that you can’t trust the government. The Covid 19 show sorta highlighted this theme.

The bottom line for me is to have access to the truth to make good decisions. If you rely solely on mainstream news, you might make a bad decision.

We all hope and pray God will direct our paths, but isn’t there a passage that says, my people die for a lack of knowledge, or something close to this?

So, if someone wants to ignore the truther movement, that’s their choice, but don’t say, you were looking it for it.

If you want a solution, pray to God. Let me know, if you got an answer. Maybe it’s not quite time for action, but maybe preparing is prudent.
This is an old thread. No idea why it was dug up now.

I was actually getting some good answers there toward the end, but then the one with good answers got chased away. Something of a pity, that.
 

Moses_Young

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2019
9,408
5,094
113
#78
The solution, the Plan of Action, the way out, the roadmap for navigating all these problems... Anybody got one?

...

...

We're waiting...

I hear a lot of conspiracy theories but the one thing missing from all of them is what we should be DOING about all this. A lot of people like to shout about something being wrong, but nobody ever has anything to say about any action we should be taking.

9/11 was planned? That's cheerful. So what do we need to do about it?

The moon landing was a lie? Well I never went to space, but what should we be doing about this?

The earth is really flat? Not sure who profits from that lie, but what do you want people to do about it?

Come on guys, give us some solutions already. We're tired of hearing about everybody in power and authority being against us. We're tired of hearing about The Big Lie. Give us something we can DO about it already.
Simple. Defund the (big) government. Stop the theft. A small percentage sales tax is all the tax they should be able to collect - for justice and defence - not social engineering and foreign wars. No money for NASA? The NASA lies and space-pool photography won't be able to compete with real science (and real scientists will have more money not stolen through taxation, with which to perform real science). Not to mention who's going to shill for the NASA liars if there's no money in it?

No wars out of 9/11? No propagandizing media funded by government? It would never have happened.

When NASA is demonstrated to be fraudulent, I think the acceptance that Earth is flat won't be far behind.
 

Eli1

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2022
3,778
1,340
113
46
#79
This thread brings back memories. Ah, good times.

Back when I started this thread, if I recall correctly, there was a lot of conspiracy seepage into the other forums.

What caused you to dig this old thing up? Really that bored?
Yes, :cry: it's been raining so i was bored and looking at old threads. This one seemed different and i liked it.