The Trump Dictatorship

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calibob

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There is a 99.9999% chance that Trump will be impeached, the impeachment is sent to Congress, Congress deliberates on this for 48 hours and then all the Congressmen/women with one unified voice stand up and say-----
Trump you are fired!!!!!!
And the Trump dynasty comes to an abrupt end
Well he's in a jam alright as long as he holds his seat he can't be arrested plus he has authority to pardon federal criminals. I wouldn't be suprised if he retires in a body bag!
 

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Why were / are Jewish people so disliked around the world? I have my on ideas but have not found any real consensus on just why that is.
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Israel is really no different from any other ethnic group. Tribes of families have fought each other around the planet since the beginning to this very day. Kind of a survival of the fittest thing. An animal viewpoint after the flesh, instead of seeing the soul of the matter.

The difference is that God has chosen Israel to bring salvation to the world of the human souls through Jesus and His Word.

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The heart of the matter is who is God's people? Israel or someone else?

It used to be that men worshiped gods of stone and wood, the sun and moon, or the elements and landscapes. But in these modern times it has become evident, by the knowledge given to us by God/Jesus, that God is not found in those material things. He is spirit. But men believed that these hollow gods gave them miracles in war.

So now we have Islam claiming to be God's people. Their claim is disputed by the presence of Israel restored to Jerusalem in the fulfillment of Lk 21:20-24, 24. The restoration of Israel after the times of the gentiles (ToG's) trampling is ended.

And the claim of Islam that their god will give them victory over Israel is correct. Satan murderer of God's people will have victory over the flesh. But the victory of Israel is over the eternal spirit.

What it all comes down to, why Israel is hated by the world, is their claim to be God's chosen people.

Satan wants to be god, wants to be worshiped as god, but Israel will not worship him.

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calibob

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WASHINGTON — The Trump administration on Monday rejected an Obama-era plan to make automobiles more fuel efficient, opening up a long process to weaken current standards and putting California and the federal government on a collision course over vehicle emissions.
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Or if he is guilty he's too big of a sissy to go to prison his co-conspiritors know this and well, he'll leave feet first just the same. Like when J.F.K. tried to disband the CIA. The megalomainacs pulling the strings will pull some strings and find some other patsy to take the fall!
 

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Well he's in a jam alright as long as he holds his seat he can't be arrested plus he has authority to pardon federal criminals. I wouldn't be suprised if he retires in a body bag!
It is a Trump dictatorship supporters dream that the president can't be arrested, charged, and jailed.

That is why they have vice presidents and a line of succession to the presidency.

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If it were true that the president was above the law and could not be arrested, he could just start shooting people, or have others do it, and then pardon everybody. Commit mass murder and then pardon everybody. He could not be stopped if he killed everybody in congress and then pardoned the murderers. He would have to be placed in confinement as a danger to society.

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Then there will be some who believe that the president cannot be arrested and such while in office. Will they say the same thing when there is a democrat in office?

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What it all comes down to, why Israel is hated by the world, is their claim to be God's chosen people.
I don't believe the world hates Israel. But I do know God feels a bit let down by their actions which He so clearly states below--------
Why were they CHOSEN then SCATTERED and then GATHERED; WHY?

(Deu7:6 KJV) For thou art a holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

(Deu7:7 KJV) The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

(Deu7:9 KJV) Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

(Deu7:11 KJV) Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.

(Deu7:12 KJV) Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he swore unto thy fathers:

(Deu7:13 KJV) And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kin, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.

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(Ezek 36:17 KJV) Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their ..own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

(Ezek 36:18 KJV) Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it.

(Ezek 36:22 KJV) Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

(Ezek 36:24 KJV) For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
NOTE: That gathering occured in 1947ad​

(Ezek 36:31 KJV) Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

(Ezek 36:32 KJV) Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, Ohouse of Israel.

What happened/will happen to the chosen ones?
 

calibob

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It is a Trump dictatorship supporters dream that the president can't be arrested, charged, and jailed.

That is why they have vice presidents and a line of succession to the presidency.

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If it were true that the president was above the law and could not be arrested, he could just start shooting people, or have others do it, and then pardon everybody. Commit mass murder and then pardon everybody. He could not be stopped if he killed everybody in congress and then pardoned the murderers. He would have to be placed in confinement as a danger to society.

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Then there will be some who believe that the president cannot be arrested and such while in office. Will they say the same thing when there is a democrat in office?

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Ya know E. Howard Hunt made a deathbed confession to the J.F.K. murder following orders by LBJ. JFK was for a systematic withdrawl from Nam. LBJ doubled the troops. Nixon was in bed with the CIA before the bay of pigs. Bush and Ford were both directors. Nixon and Hunt both got away with it. Bobby wanted to reopen the case. Nixon was tight with Hoffa and decided to release Hoffa if elected. 11 shots were fired that night from an 8 shot .22? the election was queered Nixon won, Hoffa got released. then 4 years later Watergate. Have you heard of the Chicago 7? They started the DNC riots that resulted in McGovern getting nominated hired by the plumbers, [the watergate crew] hired by Tricky Dick to stop leaks like the pentagon papers. Against he and Kissinger implacating them in a war for profit scheme regarding Viet Nam. The only goodguys in the story was WAPO, Woodward and Bernsein, Dan Rather and Walter Cronkite.

What do you think really happened? Can it happen again?
 

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I don't believe the world hates Israel.
Israel has been persecuted for 1000's of years by the gentile nations. History shows that it was the intent of many nations to erase Israel from the planet. Most recently the RCC, Hitler, and Islam among others.


But I do know God feels a bit let down by their actions which He so clearly states below--------
Why were they CHOSEN then SCATTERED and then GATHERED; WHY?

The natural branches were broken and scattered in the 70 ad time period (Dan 12:7) because they rejected the gospel kingdom that came on Pentecost.

They were gathered in the 1940's through 1967 to restore Jerusalem to Israel and end the times of the gentiles (ToG's) Lk 21:20-24, 24, because of the promises made to the fathers.


What happened/will happen to the chosen ones?
According to the story of the 2 Witnesses (2W's), who are the people of Israel natural branches, Jerusalem is restored, then they are killed, and 3 1/2 days later Jesus comes for the kingdom. Then this planet ends.

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They were gathered in the 1940's through 1967 to restore Jerusalem to Israel and end the times of the gentiles
If believing this myth helps you sleep at night; who am I to wake you up in the middle of the night with the truth?
 

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Ya know E. Howard Hunt made a deathbed confession to the J.F.K. murder following orders by LBJ. JFK was for a systematic withdrawl from Nam. LBJ doubled the troops. Nixon was in bed with the CIA before the bay of pigs. Bush and Ford were both directors. Nixon and Hunt both got away with it. Bobby wanted to reopen the case. Nixon was tight with Hoffa and decided to release Hoffa if elected. 11 shots were fired that night from an 8 shot .22? the election was queered Nixon won, Hoffa got released. then 4 years later Watergate. Have you heard of the Chicago 7? They started the DNC riots that resulted in McGovern getting nominated hired by the plumbers, [the watergate crew] hired by Tricky Dick to stop leaks like the pentagon papers. Against he and Kissinger implacating them in a war for profit scheme regarding Viet Nam. The only goodguys in the story was WAPO, Woodward and Bernsein, Dan Rather and Walter Cronkite.

What do you think really happened? Can it happen again?
I think that it is happening all the time.

The only hope for people is the heart changing gospel and the Holy Spirit of Jesus' love. This is our weapon, the sword of the gospel of God's Word. We don't want anyone to die. We want them to come to the love of Jesus and their fellow human souls.

I want Trump to be a real Christian, not a the fake one, the worldly minded, fleshly minded, the egotistical.

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I often wonder, .....What is the preacher saying where "the Don" goes to church? A watered down worldly message? A message that doesn't point out the sin of abusing the stranger? Or the sin of turning from helping the sick and disabled? Or seeing people as spirits instead of judging by the flesh? What on earth is that guy saying? Maybe, "Mr Trump, You are so great." Otherwise he would lose his job for telling the truth.

I often wonder, ...... Who are these people in the "freedom/slavery" caucus that are supposed to be "Christian" advisers to the Don? These people who hurried to lay hands on the Don, endorsing him before they really knew what he was. Where are those "Christians" when Christian children are abused at the border? Why do those Christians support and cheer lawbreakers like Manafort and Coen?

Just what are those supposed "Christians" telling Trump? It can't be "love your neighbor as yourself"!

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Oh wise one, please tell me who "they" are?
farside,

No need to get fresh.

I plainly stated that the 2W's are the people of Israel natural branches.

They are presently restored to Jerusalem ending the times of the gentiles (ToG's). Lk 21:20-24, 24.

They will soon be defeated and Jerusalem will fall to Iran (the kings of the east) and the gentile nations (Magog).

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calibob

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From what I understand via you tube his favorite preacher was Norman Vincent Peal, the power of positive thinking guru which would make Bob Shuller the most likely candidate [the power of posibility think dude] and Don wouldn't need to got to church he used to hold services in the Orange Drive Inn theater and had a lot of wealthy followers that could keep their tinted windows rolled up and have their morning mimosa while liseting to the prospairity doctrin sitt in the anonymity of their cars. He made a fortune.

Later he had the Crystal Cathedral built, it's beautiful., all glass from slab to steeple, enormus pipe organ, live performances of many kinds and TV live coverage too.
 

abcdef

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From what I understand via you tube his favorite preacher was Norman Vincent Peal, the power of positive thinking guru which would make Bob Shuller the most likely candidate [the power of posibility think dude] and Don wouldn't need to got to church he used to hold services in the Orange Drive Inn theater and had a lot of wealthy followers that could keep their tinted windows rolled up and have their morning mimosa while liseting to the prospairity doctrin sitt in the anonymity of their cars. He made a fortune.

Later he had the Crystal Cathedral built, it's beautiful., all glass from slab to steeple, enormus pipe organ, live performances of many kinds and TV live coverage too.
Spiced up with political propaganda also.
 

calibob

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Don't know, can't say never got past the power of possibility thinking :poop: but it was a christian tourist attraction in the 80s and I took the tour with some friends. crystal 1.jpg crystal 2.jpg crystal 3.jpg crystal 5.jpg
 

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Don't know, can't say never got past the power of possibility thinking :poop: but it was a christian tourist attraction in the 80s and I took the tour with some friends.
"...., And the cities of the nations fell: ...." Rev 16:19.

May many souls come to Jesus by the preaching of the gospel kingdom.

It is not my part to judge the ones who plant or water in the name of Jesus. We have our judge.

Maybe that is where Jesus is found for some, that may be their place.

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Well, I don't think that Trump is as smart as Hitler. Trump is more of a Benito Mussolini. A gangster thug whose followers chose brutality over law.




A dictator is a dictator. Someone does not become a dictator without rising to power first. Then he consolidates his power and enforces it. In this case it would be the supremacists who seize power. Hitler was voted supreme power at gunpoint.

Remember what Trump said? Something like, "I can shoot somebody on 5th avenue and get away with it." A prophecy perhaps?




First you say that Trump is an island. "Not even close" to a dictator.

Then you say that if he is voted out of office, according to the law, that you and his followers will act with violence against the lawful exercise of power by the elected House and Senate of America.

Which way are you going to go? Abide by the law? Or establish the Trump dictatorship yourself with violence? Because that is exactly what you are saying.

You are thinking such a thing like a Trump dictatorship is far from happening, but by your own words, you have called for a violent rebellion to establish Trump and end the law of the constitution.




I hope that Trump makes it to heaven. I hope that Trump turns to love instead of selfishness. I hope that Trump sees the evil of what he is doing to Christian children at the borders. I don't hate Trump. I wish he was great, but he is not, "even close".

I wish that Trump would repent and say that he was sorry. But as it has been said about another spirit, there is no repentance found in him.




Hillary did win. Trump conspired with Czar Putin and the Russians. That invalidated his claim to the presidency since it was the result of a crime to fix the election.

Listen I don't especially like Hillary, and I really don't like Bill.

But Trump is 1000 times worse.

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I did not advocate violence, I said it would happen.
I did not vote for Trump or Hillary.
I do not support Trump, but I respect the office of President regardless of who is there, and will pray for him.
There is no evidence that the election was fixed. The system designed by our for-fathers worked as his always has.
There was no way the voters were going to elect the looser your party offered.
Maybe your party will offer a more suitable candidate in 2020 instead of the loosers offered in 2016.
 

calibob

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"...., And the cities of the nations fell: ...." Rev 16:19.
May many souls come to Jesus by the preaching of the gospel kingdom.

It is not my part to judge the ones who plant or water in the name of Jesus. We have our judge.

Maybe that is where Jesus is found for some, that may be their place.

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The word of the lord never comes back void. My point is Trump more likely worships splendor and oppulance more than struggle for kindness and mercy!
"...., And the cities of the nations fell: ...." Rev 16:19.

May many souls come to Jesus by the preaching of the gospel kingdom.

It is not my part to judge the ones who plant or water in the name of Jesus. We have our judge.

Maybe that is where Jesus is found for some, that may be their place.

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Now this is my idea of what a Church should look like! sd1.jpg sd2.jpg
Can you imagine a lover of money in places setfree.jpg like these? setfreemontana_4.jpg
 

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I did not advocate violence, I said it would happen.
How do you feel about that?

Do want a violent overthrow of the government? You are in favor of it?

You are against the violent overthrow of the government, but it is OK if somebody else does it?

There should not be a violent overthrowing of the government?

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I did not vote for Trump or Hillary.
So who did you vote for? Green Party? David Duke?


I do not support Trump,
It seems as if you do.


but I respect the office of President regardless of who is there, and will pray for him.
So if Trump was impeached, it wouldn't matter to you. You would support a democrat.


There is no evidence that the election was fixed.
Everybody in government knows and says that Czar Putin interfered. The only ones who disagree are you and Trump.

That is what the investigation is about, Russian spies, not Trump. (Unless Trump was conspiring with the Russians.)


The system designed by our for-fathers worked as his always has.
Except for the Russian influence.


There was no way the voters were going to elect the looser your party offered.
Maybe your party will offer a more suitable candidate in 2020 instead of the loosers offered in 2016.
Hillary won the election. Trump is disqualified for criminal cheating with Czar Putin and the Russians.

Oh, what is your party?

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Trump is headed for impeachment. When he is finally impeached in disgrace the only ones who will be sad will be Czar Putin and the supremacists.

Real Americans will cheer, both on the rite and left, and the middle.

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calibob

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How do you feel about that?

Do want a violent overthrow of the government? You are in favor of it?

You are against the violent overthrow of the government, but it is OK if somebody else does it?

There should not be a violent overthrowing of the government?

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So who did you vote for? Green Party? David Duke?




It seems as if you do.




So if Trump was impeached, it wouldn't matter to you. You would support a democrat.




Everybody in government knows and says that Czar Putin interfered. The only ones who disagree are you and Trump.

That is what the investigation is about, Russian spies, not Trump. (Unless Trump was conspiring with the Russians.)




Except for the Russian influence.




Hillary won the election. Trump is disqualified for criminal cheating with Czar Putin and the Russians.

Oh, what is your party?

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Trump is headed for impeachment. When he is finally impeached in disgrace the only ones who will be sad will be Czar Putin and the supremacists.

Real Americans will cheer, both on the rite and left, and the middle.

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I disagree strongly! Putin will laugh Putins an organ grinder and Trump's the monkey in world of monkeys! If/when he looses Donny boy he'll find another greedy monkey that thinks he's rich because we're stupid to collect our change for the master and will be happy enough to sell his soul for chump change. Don't you think the oil companies have someone else in mind allready?
 
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How do you feel about that?

Do want a violent overthrow of the government? You are in favor of it?

You are against the violent overthrow of the government, but it is OK if somebody else does it?

There should not be a violent overthrowing of the government?

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So who did you vote for? Green Party? David Duke?




It seems as if you do.




So if Trump was impeached, it wouldn't matter to you. You would support a democrat.




Everybody in government knows and says that Czar Putin interfered. The only ones who disagree are you and Trump.

That is what the investigation is about, Russian spies, not Trump. (Unless Trump was conspiring with the Russians.)




Except for the Russian influence.




Hillary won the election. Trump is disqualified for criminal cheating with Czar Putin and the Russians.

Oh, what is your party?

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Trump is headed for impeachment. When he is finally impeached in disgrace the only ones who will be sad will be Czar Putin and the supremacists.

Real Americans will cheer, both on the rite and left, and the middle.

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Your delusion and hatred for Trump is leading you to ask really stupid questions and make stupid statements.
I see your continued obsession with Trump stealing the election and becoming a dictator as being stupid.

HILLARY LOST!!!!!
Trump did not need the Russians.
The Democrats chose a looser and she lost.
Get over it.

I will wait for 2020 and hope I am offered some one I can vote for. If not, I will once again refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils.
I am an Independent Conservative American.
I always vote for who I believe is best for America.
Unfortunately I have been offered very few that fit that standard in recent years.


Anyone who takes to the streets and causes death, injury, or destruction of property should be locked up for ever.
Whether they support or disagree with anyone. Trump, Hillary, Sanders, or Micky Mouse.

Your obsession wit this subject is unhealthy.