Trump - puppet or savior?

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Trump - puppet or savior?


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KJV1611

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There IS no Star of David anywhere in the Bible. It's a satanic flag they're flying over Israel. Do you see the deception?
Act_7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Pretty sure this is the same thing as the star of David.
 

Chester

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I've heard many people including my parents say "God sent Trump to save America".

I've always said he's a puppet doing the bidding of the elite.... his handling of the Coronavirus proves that in my opinion.

What do you think, is Trump a puppet or a savior?
The governments of the world are all part of a Satanic system of rule. Jesus' kingdom is not of this world. It is not possible to rule any Earthly kingdom by what Jesus taught on the Sermon on the Mount.

So Trump may at times do good things, but he is still part of a system. That is why I voted "puppet".
 

bojack

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I'm a skeptic. Especially since that 'religious' man on the video threw the triple 6 at least 3 times. The music and story are touching - but I don't buy it.

Research Donald J. Trump very carefully. Too many Christians take him at his word and the word of the false pastors surrounding him. We are told to "be as wise as the serpent but as harmless as the dove" and that "satan appears as an angel of light" and other warnings about end-time deceptions. "Many are called but few are chosen..." Be careful who you trust and who you listen to. Many antichrists have already gone out into the world...
Aren't you glad we will all give an account for all we do to Jesus at the judgment ?
 

bojack

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Our 50 stars aren't designed to represent satanism. You need to study symbolism.

This is exactly what I mean: Christians are not discerning.
I think God created America to be the Superpower on Earth to be Israel's friend and support in the End time .. Whosoever blesses Israel will be blessed and whosoever curses Israel will be cursed ..
 

saintrose

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Act_7:43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Pretty sure this is the same thing as the star of David.
Yes - I believe so. I read that Solomon turned from God and followed the false religions of his wives and that's where it originated at. But nowhere in Scripture is there a star of David. I'm really shocked that so many accept this without checking. I tried telling a pastor at our bible study and he refused to even look it up. I like him though and hope that some day he'll take the time to look into it before blindly accepting these false and dangerous beliefs.
 

saintrose

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I think God created America to be the Superpower on Earth to be Israel's friend and support in the End time .. Whosoever blesses Israel will be blessed and whosoever curses Israel will be cursed ..
I'm not very well-versed in this but from my understanding it is Christians that God is referring to as "Israel" not the country of Israel.
 

bojack

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I'm not very well-versed in this but from my understanding it is Christians that God is referring to as "Israel" not the country of Israel.
Who is Israel ? All those who went to live in Egypt then was led out by God and Moses ? Who was the land given to by God and when did God take it away ?
 

1christian1

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Who is Israel ? All those who went to live in Egypt then was led out by God and Moses ? Who was the land given to by God and when did God take it away ?
What I am confused about is what is going to happen if Jesus returned to Israel. The Jews don't believe in Him... How would that work.?
 

saintrose

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bojack

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What I am confused about is what is going to happen if Jesus returned to Israel. The Jews don't believe in Him... How would that work.?
They will , some of them .. I didn't get born again to Jesus until I was over 21 yrs old , I'm glad Jesus waited on me through my agnostic foolishness .. I have no problem with God giving Israel time .. In fact God is very patient with us ..
 

1christian1

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They will , some of them .. I didn't get born again to Jesus until I was over 21 yrs old , I'm glad Jesus waited on me through my agnostic foolishness .. I have no problem with God giving Israel time .. In fact God is very patient with us ..
You can say that again! Lol..Time ,after time, after time. I have a friend that is from Israel and he told me that before he came to America, He never heard of Jesus. Not only was there nothing taught of Jesus. They did'nt even have the new testament in their libraries...
 

bojack

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You can say that again! Lol..Time ,after time, after time. I have a friend that is from Israel and he told me that before he came to America, He never heard of Jesus. Not only was there nothing taught of Jesus. They did'nt even have the new testament in their libraries...
Yeah, Israel got cursed and dispersed all over earth for about 2000 yrs , and there's plenty prophecy concerning the end time re-gathering of Israel .. Amazing .. I'd rather listen to a Messianic Jew teach than any one , I mean Bro they can lay it out there .. Zola Levitt and Jonathon Cahn come to mind .. Jews in America were persecuted but still welcomed and accepted by many .. I was indifferent then after I became ''born again'' I developed a love for those hard headed Jews almost supernatural as I learned the Word ..
 

1christian1

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Yes, We had this conversation. As a matter of fact I Brought this up. Lol. you remember we were talking about how they modified the B-52 bomber? So The U.s gave you back Israel. We are your protectors. What are you getting at?...
 

bojack

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Yes, We had this conversation. As a matter of fact I Brought this up. Lol. you remember we were talking about how they modified the B-52 bomber? So The U.s gave you back Israel. We are your protectors. What are you getting at?...
I don't remember but I don't doubt it, I'm pretty firm on the issue .. And Israel has us mainly as friends and support .. Israel and God has did pretty good at winning their own wars ..
 

1christian1

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I don't remember but I don't doubt it, I'm pretty firm on the issue .. And Israel has us mainly as friends and support .. Israel and God has did pretty good at winning their own wars ..
I get it, and I agree with you, For thousands of year's, But Israel is surrounded by enemy's now. Where do you think they would be if we did'nt have there back for the last 80 year's ?...
 

bojack

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I get it, and I agree with you, For thousands of year's, But Israel is surrounded by enemy's now. Where do you think they would be if we did'nt have there back for the last 80 year's ?...
Since I think it's prophecy fulfilled by God I think they'd be exactly where they are with or without us , so we're blessed too on Israel's account
 

1christian1

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Since I think it's prophecy fulfilled by God I think they'd be exactly where they are with or without us , so we're blessed too on Israel's account
For saving them? Bo, I lived int he D'C' metro area for year's. Met and worked with people from all over the middle east. A Jewish owned grocery store I loved the man I worked for . He appreciated what I did for his company and compensated me well. When I was in my late 20's I started a flooring business with a Persian man that I was in sales with. His Father was a General in their army. When the U.s. got rid of the Shaw. everyone associated with him fled to the U.S.. He was one of the most intelligent men I have ever met to this day. He was the one that told me about the B-52. I only started to read the Washington post and about world wide issues. I had no idea that Israel was surrounded by country's that absolutely despised them. What did I know. I'm American, I never once in my life, felt vulnerable in this Country. I still don't. All thing's being equal, I think we are a kick butt country! Not the Federal Gov.( i.e. trump) The PEOPLE of this country. I know. Ill I did was stay home. but there were millions of people that stepped up! Thank you, this is why I love the U.S. You helped me to remember what a great country we live and what we are about. I think the citizens of the U.S. proved it to the world...
 

acts5_29

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I had no idea that Israel was surrounded by country's that absolutely despised them.
I think that has something to do with bulldozing people's homes who never had a quarrel with you and running them all out into the neighboring countries.