Ukraine the bad guy?

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Fundaamental

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Bad news for Satan's servants the liars of Wicked Russia and the sycophantic defenders of the liars, those wicked ones who try to even lie against God. They will all be destroyed those deceived sinners, PRAISE JESUS!


2 Thessalonians 2:8-12


8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
read it for your self it says all russian soldiers are going to hell
 

Fundaamental

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I'm reading it, underline it for me, perhaps my eyes aren't what they used to be or perhaps it just isn't there.
oh no it's there all right along with other posts in this thread you've made,

Also at the same time you asking people to praise Jesus for this could be making people commit sin
 
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oh no it's there all right along with other posts in this thread you've made,

Also at the same time you asking people to praise Jesus for this could be making people commit sin
That's what you say, but not what I have said. I will not stop praising Jesus for defending the good guys of Ukraine by his mighty hand and destroying Wicked Russia openly for siding with Satan, Wicked Russia's whole principality is doomed, strong is Jesus, and he answers above our prayers, and strengthens our faith more PRAISE JESUS!
 

Fundaamental

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That's what you say, but not what I have said. I will not stop praising Jesus for defending the good guys of Ukraine by his mighty hand and destroying Wicked Russia openly for siding with Satan, Wicked Russia's whole principality is doomed, strong is Jesus, and he answers above our prayers, and strengthens our faith more PRAISE JESUS!
so now your asking Christian who believe in the spirit of a harmless holy dove to praise Jesus for the death of Russia
 
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so now your asking Christian who believe in the spirit of a harmless holy dove to praise Jesus for the death of Russia
No, I'm praising the True God that already has and continues to strengthen the good guys in Ukraine and will absolutely destroy Satan's worthless minions Wicked Russia for starting a war by the power of the Lie. By power of Spirit and Truth, Wicked Russia will be defeated and destroyed utterly, and already the glory and might of God is at hand! PRAISE JESUS!
 
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Here before bed. We have gone too many pages little Ukraine-Russia watcher clique without any actual video. Let us see how things stand before morning surprises and news to praise Jesus for. Haven't even watched this one yet, but from the title I already know this story how Wicked Russia's most elite VDV were forcefed into hell by Putin himself and their own satanic pride in trying to murderously sack Kiev but were defied by a strong God that strengthened even Ukraine's equivalent to a national guard against all the secular fools' odds. PRAISE JESUS!

 

JohnDB

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Russia has stolen Ukraine's children, slaughtered women and old people for breathing...destroyed their cities. Burned their harbors and harvests And poisoned huge areas of land and rivers.....For WHAT?
Basically to steal the resources of Ukraine.
As if the Ukranians don't matter....their lives aren't as important as a Russian life. The only thing the Ukranians have is resources...and their lives are an unimportant nuisance that has gotten in Russia's way.

Not to mention that the USA and NATO has a treaty with Ukraine to stop this very thing.
So....it doesn't matter if you don't like the treaty or love Russia....we must honor our agreements or else we are toast on the world stage. This isn't a political issue....it's a moral issue.

Yes, Ukraine has been a very poor country. It's been at the forefront of child sex trafficking and many other horrid crimes for years. No different from Latvia, Romania, Hungary, or Belarus or many other places. But because of the attention...Ukraine is still a resource rich nation that has potential to be a very prosperous nation. One of the richest in the EU. And they have been making great strides to clean up their house. (Nationalism and attention tend to do that)
 

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Highlight it or underline it. Though I will say right here unequivocally all possessed by Wicked Russia, from their bottommost commoners to their soldiers to their boyars to Putin himself are doomed and will certainly fall and also go to hell because they serve Satan. Only way for Russian to not be excommunicated is to flee or else fight Wicked Russia and join the growing Holy Russian Revolution., PRAISE JESUS!
This is not another gospel it is a perversion of the real gospel. Jesus is the only way, not "fighting Russia is the only way".

"Joining the Holy Russian Revolution" is not a way to avoid hell, not a way to avoid being doomed, not a way to avoid being excommunicated.

Likewise fleeing Russia does not mean you avoid going to hell.

The only way to avoid going to hell is to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.
 

Fundaamental

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No, I'm praising the True God that already has and continues to strengthen the good guys in Ukraine and will absolutely destroy Satan's worthless minions Wicked Russia for starting a war by the power of the Lie. By power of Spirit and Truth, Wicked Russia will be defeated and destroyed utterly, and already the glory and might of God is at hand! PRAISE JESUS!
again how are we to take Russia being utterly destroyed other than death to all russians since you add wicked Russia in the same sentence ?
 

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Escalation is sparking up everywhere. And its turning into a bonfire.
THIS is why I was against this war from day one. Things are spinning out of control, and the West is coming unglued.
And I live in the west and DO NOT want to suffer the consequences. End this war now. And de-escalate.

I'm sure that Putin and Zelenky are reading your posts and taking your suggestions to heart. I'm amazed that the war is still going. Perhaps you need to go to Russia and Ukraine to deliver your ultimatum personally. I'm not sure what your "or else" would be. "I live in the west and I don't want to suffer" probably won't cut much ice. Perhaps just the power of your persuasive rhetoric will be enough.
 

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Highlight it or underline it. Though I will say right here unequivocally all possessed by Wicked Russia, from their bottommost commoners to their soldiers to their boyars to Putin himself are doomed and will certainly fall and also go to hell because they serve Satan. Only way for Russian to not be excommunicated is to flee or else fight Wicked Russia and join the growing Holy Russian Revolution., PRAISE JESUS!
You need to calm down a bit. The whole world is under the control of the evil one (1 John 5:19). The sinner fighting for Russia is no better or worse off than the sinner fighting for Ukraine. The Kingdom of God will supplant the Kingdoms of the world. Satan rages for the moment, but his time is coming to an end. We do not fight flesh and blood, but Satan's forces that hide in the world's darkness.

Russia had no right to invade Ukraine. I hope and pray that Putin will be defeated. Just remember that the Russians fighting, often against their will, are made in the image of God also.
 

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I'm sure that Putin and Zelenky are reading your posts and taking your suggestions to heart. I'm amazed that the war is still going. Perhaps you need to go to Russia and Ukraine to deliver your ultimatum personally. I'm not sure what your "or else" would be. "I live in the west and I don't want to suffer" probably won't cut much ice. Perhaps just the power of your persuasive rhetoric will be enough.
The Ukrainian soldiers are delivering their own ultimatums. Quite frequently nowadays so I am told.
IMO this war is just about over. Maybe a couple of three months. Too many mines, ISR, air support embedded in Russia's defensive capabilities.

It is inconceivable that Ukraine has the forces necessary to retake their territory. The Ukrainians know this and they also know that they are little more than doomed cannon fodder at this point.

Tragically this war never needed to happen. Brandon Nuland Britian and NATO gambled and they lost. They would have been better off to leave Germany and Russia to do friendly business and prosper. But nope. The doctrine of crippling Germany/Europe and destroying Russia was always the playbook from day one.

 

Gideon300

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The Ukrainian soldiers are delivering their own ultimatums. Quite frequently nowadays so I am told.
IMO this war is just about over. Maybe a couple of three months. Too many mines, ISR, air support embedded in Russia's defensive capabilities.

It is inconceivable that Ukraine has the forces necessary to retake their territory. The Ukrainians know this and they also know that they are little more than doomed cannon fodder at this point.

Tragically this war never needed to happen. Brandon Nuland Britian and NATO gambled and they lost. They would have been better off to leave Germany and Russia to do friendly business and prosper. But nope. The doctrine of crippling Germany/Europe and destroying Russia was always the playbook from day one.

I don't know how you come to your conclusions. If NATO wanted to destroy Russia, they should have given Ukraine the weapons that they need to fight. Ukraine has little airpower, which is a major problem. The war will be put on hold soon as the weather will make it near impossible to fight effectively. Both sides will try to rearm and resupply. NATO could end this tomorrow if they had the will. Politicians control NATO and so the hand wringers hamstring Ukraine.

I agree, the war did not need to happen. I disagree with your reasoning. Russia should have been evicted from Ukraine in 2014. That's where the rot started. And if Russia is not defeated now, they will keep pushing until someone has the guts to stop them.
 

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I don't know how you come to your conclusions. If NATO wanted to destroy Russia, they should have given Ukraine the weapons that they need to fight. Ukraine has little airpower, which is a major problem. The war will be put on hold soon as the weather will make it near impossible to fight effectively. Both sides will try to rearm and resupply. NATO could end this tomorrow if they had the will. Politicians control NATO and so the hand wringers hamstring Ukraine.

I agree, the war did not need to happen. I disagree with your reasoning. Russia should have been evicted from Ukraine in 2014. That's where the rot started. And if Russia is not defeated now, they will keep pushing until someone has the guts to stop them.
Didn't need to happen? How are you going to get the Ezekiel 38 war if it doesn't happen? How is God going to judge the Great Babylon if it doesn't happen? How do you judge the child trafficking headquartered in Ukraine? How do you bring everyone down for Armageddon?

We might have a whole lot of questions about what is going on, but one thing is for sure, every word that God has spoken will be fulfilled, and we are going to see judgement on this Earth for rejecting Jesus Christ and the salvation that He offered.
 

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Didn't need to happen? How are you going to get the Ezekiel 38 war if it doesn't happen? How is God going to judge the Great Babylon if it doesn't happen? How do you judge the child trafficking headquartered in Ukraine? How do you bring everyone down for Armageddon?

We might have a whole lot of questions about what is going on, but one thing is for sure, every word that God has spoken will be fulfilled, and we are going to see judgement on this Earth for rejecting Jesus Christ and the salvation that He offered.
Sure, the whole world will be plunged into nuclear war at some stage. Most people will die. God foretelling an event does not mean that what we see now is that event. Luther was convinced that the Pope was the antichrist. Many thought that the murder of 6 million Jews was the Great Tribulation. If you were a Jew in Europe in Hitler's time, then life was as bad as it gets.

I refuse to get into the last days symbolism. I don't know who Gog and Magog are. Judgement takes many forms. The forest fires in Canada, Portugal and Spain, typhoons in the South China sea, intolerable heat waves in the US and Middle East are all part of God's judgement in my view. One day, America will be hit by a massive earthquake or Yellowstone park will erupt. Or both. There is also what I call the "Ninevah effect". Right now, many are turning to Christ. Perhaps God will spare the world His severest judgement for now. I'm no Jonah and I won't be upset if the world repents and turns to Christ. I'm also not confident that there will be a world wide revival, in spite of supposed prophecies to that effect. We will see.
 

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Sure, the whole world will be plunged into nuclear war at some stage. Most people will die. God foretelling an event does not mean that what we see now is that event. Luther was convinced that the Pope was the antichrist. Many thought that the murder of 6 million Jews was the Great Tribulation. If you were a Jew in Europe in Hitler's time, then life was as bad as it gets.

I refuse to get into the last days symbolism. I don't know who Gog and Magog are. Judgement takes many forms. The forest fires in Canada, Portugal and Spain, typhoons in the South China sea, intolerable heat waves in the US and Middle East are all part of God's judgement in my view. One day, America will be hit by a massive earthquake or Yellowstone park will erupt. Or both. There is also what I call the "Ninevah effect". Right now, many are turning to Christ. Perhaps God will spare the world His severest judgement for now. I'm no Jonah and I won't be upset if the world repents and turns to Christ. I'm also not confident that there will be a world wide revival, in spite of supposed prophecies to that effect. We will see.
If you refuse to get into the last days symbolism then what is this post of yours?

The Bible tells us that there are many antichrists, just because Luther thought the Pope was the antichrist doesn't mean he wasn't a antichrist and expressing the antichrist spirit.

Of course the holocaust is relevant to the end times. It means "burnt offering". The Jews killed one third of the God head and one third of the Jews were killed by the Gentiles and during the tribulation one third of the Gentiles will be killed.

It is true that prophecies can be very difficult to understand, but the fact that we have so many that have been fulfilled precisely and that God tells us this is the proof that He alone is God is the basis for us to treat them with great respect and not ignore them.

We are warned about who the antichrist is so that we would not be deceived. We are warned about the mark of the beast so that we would not be deceived. We are warned about the great delusion, the perverted gospel, snakebites, and on and on so that we would not be deceived and harmed by these. But if you ignore intentionally do not blame God if you are deceived.
 

cv5

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I refuse to get into the last days symbolism. I don't know who Gog and Magog are. Judgement takes many forms.
Try thinking in terms of "signs" or "signals" or "flags".

The most relevant being Israel, who themselves were/are conspicuously created specifically as a sign. The nation itself.....is a sign, and meant to be. Israel is "God's timepiece".

1) So as we can clearly observe, Israelites have been intentionally preserved as a readily identifiable people.
2) Furthermore, it just so happens that today, these Israelites not actually inhabit a nation called Israel.
3) More than that, this newly created nation is bent upon rebuilding their temple. See the fact that the religious hardliners are now in power and there will be political will to do so.

http://www.beginliving.com/israel/

When did Israel reappear on the scene? Precisely 2520 years after the return from the 70 years captivity. Both 1948 AND 1967 are clearly specified. The "7 times judgement" of Leviticus 26 is now over. See this thesis....

http://watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/HIStoryOurFuture/Ezekiels430Days.html

IMO the problem with the Church today is that they DO NOT factor in Biblical prophecy rightly interpreted. Rather they ignore it in willful ignorance. It is replaced with banal insipid guesswork and sweeping generalities. This need not be the case.