Ukraine the bad guy?

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SomeDisciple

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Even if a Russian pullout didn't result in endless war, Z-man will roll over the DPR, and crush the Donbas with our tanks. That's kinda messed up.
 

Gideon300

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Putin pulls out.....ENDLESS CONFLICT.
Then WW3 with nukes.
If Putin gets all of Ukraine, he will not stop there. If Putin wins, endless conflict. Hitler told the world exactly what he planned to do and how he would go about it. He gave it his best shot and lost. Putin has also told the world what he plans to do. He's a bit smarter than Hitler. He has to be, because he is all bluff and bluster. He relies on the West caving in, which could still happen.

Russia will not start a nuclear war. They are not that dumb. It will be Iran, Pakistan or maybe North Korea. Iran or Pakistan will attack out of religious hatred for Israel. For now, Pakistan is not controlled by Muslim fundamentalists. They also need their nukes to balance India. Less likely, North Korea out of paranoia and ego. The initial target will will be Israel. I'm watching Iran.

Another possibility is that Israel uses nukes to stop Iran making nuclear weapons. A whole lot of countries
would be glad to see the end of Iran. Not me. Iranians are not the enemy, it is the regime that needs to be brought down.

Nuclear war is inevitable, but I reckon its a long way off yet.
 

SomeDisciple

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Where are people getting this idea... "PUTIN WONT STOP IN UKRAINE!!! HE GONNA CONQUER THE WORLD!!!"

Seriously. Where does that idea come from, and where is it ever explained in a logical way? Because I hear a lot of people saying it- but not saying why they believe that. I want an answer; and not a stupid one like "because he's a DICTATOR!!!".
 

cv5

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If Putin gets all of Ukraine, he will not stop there..
Disagree. Putin is a gangsta mob boss this much is true. But an intelligent, clear thinking rational mob boss. And a far more intelligent mob boss than most. A mob boss who wants to stay in power and eliminate sanctions to keep his operation running smoothly.

Your mob bosses are just as wicked. But far more stupid IMO.
 

cv5

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You had all better hear this. Z demanding that US citizens fight and die in his war.

 

cv5

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This isn't judgment yet?
Lol. Final judgement bro. The last as far as THIS AGE (the Church age) is concerned. The "age to come" (the millennial reign) DOES have devastating end time judgements as well. Then the new heavens and new earth.

Yea.....we pre-mills know EXACTLY what we are talking about. Everybody else? Not so much.
 

cv5

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His plan to redeem His creation from man's sin is being fulfilled, I for one didn't think it would look like this.:unsure:(y):giggle::):coffee:
You've got that right bro. Only INDIVIDUALS one-by-one are being redeemed as of now. Who are not part of the present age.
The planet, the biosphere, the wildlife, the earthly government, the earthly authority ALTOGETHER AT ONCE will only change hands when the Lamb takes the title deed scroll from the Father. No more CNN, Putin, Biden or Van der Leyen wouldn't that be nice?

As of now we are merely strangers and pilgrims in a very hostile world.

Jhn 15:19
“If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

2Co 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Heb 11:13
These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

1Pe 2:11
Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
 

Gideon300

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Disagree. Putin is a gangsta mob boss this much is true. But an intelligent, clear thinking rational mob boss. And a far more intelligent mob boss than most. A mob boss who wants to stay in power and eliminate sanctions to keep his operation running smoothly.

Your mob bosses are just as wicked. But far more stupid IMO.
Clear thinking and rational? Maybe, but he completely underestimated Ukraine's willingness to resist, Europe's resolve to help Ukraine and overestimated his military capabilities. If he was running a company, he would have sent it bankrupt by now. Part of Putin's problem is his isolation. He is out of touch with reality. This happens to a lot of dictators. Hitler was committing divisions that did not exist to Germany's defence. That is not the mark of a rational being. No doubt Putin was rational at one time. Now he believes his own propaganda. It's pathetic and tragic. The human cost on both sides of the border is immense, as is the cost of waging this war. Putin will answer to God for his unjustified treatment of Ukraine and also his own troops. I would not like to be in his shoes on that day.
 

cv5

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Putin will answer to God for his unjustified treatment of Ukraine and also his own troops. I would not like to be in his shoes on that day.
As will the many many other spooky bad actors, mid-level mob Coppos, and street level muscle......from Europe and the West.
They are all equally guilty and equally damned if they do not seek out Jesus and plead His blood. From what I can tell, the probability of any of these nutters actually and sincerely repenting is very very low indeed.