Ukraine the bad guy?

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cv5

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desertdog

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remember when putin cured covid by invading ukraine?
what if he actually did 'cure' covid, by taking the ukranian biolabs?
 

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"Take it with a grain of salt, but RFK Jr. said in a recent interview some of the Biden regime neocons are getting cold feet. They miscalculated Russia... like so many in the past... and they now need a way out. Meanwhile, the rest of the neocons are ready to nuke the planet over Ukraine."
 

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desertdog

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remember when putin cured covid by invading ukraine?
what if he actually did 'cure' covid, by taking the ukranian biolabs?
there's a good question. But was the labs really Ukraine's or just made to look that way 🤔
 

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Where you might be rooting for Russia due to its underdog status....it's not going to work out for you.
I'm not "rooting" for anyone. They're all bad and playing their part in implementing the Great Reset.

But Zelensky is at least as evil as Putin.

The idea that Russia is the underdog is almost too laughable to comment on.

What I am rooting for is that the truth prevails. And as of now, Ukraine is losing in virtually ever metric you can think of.
People in glass houses....
If my house is glass, yours must be tissue paper!
And it's working....because Russia is too prideful to stop. They have spent too much, killed too many, lost too much money, been embarrassed on the world stage by a "nothing" nation. They will literally expend their military in Ukraine until its gone.
Right. Do you even TRY to be informed? Not only is Ukraine low on all manner of ammo, but even US stockpiles are low, and affecting our ability to possibly deal with China.
In fact, so low, now the demon filled Biden is sending illegal cluster bombs that he himself recently said was awful because of civilian deaths.
The sanctions have whittled at the Russian War chest and its now gone. Inflation is about to hit the people because the subsidies are gone....nothing left to make up the cost difference.
LOL!! Russia is doing just fine economically. So much so they and the other BRICS nations are about to launch their gold backed currency to decimate the US dollar.
Crimean Bridge got hit last night..
Yes it did. And Russia's response proves what a dumb idea it was. No more grain allowed to be shipped.

Did you even read the article? Or are you so mind numbed indoctrinated from the MSM, that nothing can penetrate.
 

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there's a good question. But was the labs really Ukraine's or just made to look that way 🤔
Foreign built and sponsored Ukraine biolabs confirmed. By the US state dept. Many times over.

Sampling Russian DNA. Use your imagination.
 

Fundaamental

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Foreign built and sponsored Ukraine biolabs confirmed. By the US state dept. Many times over.

Sampling Russian DNA. Use your imagination.
I know I heard but if they where producing covid was the Ukrainian government aware of it ?.

We only have an accusation at this point.

Which was first reported last year by Russia claiming they had evidence.
 

JohnDB

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I'm not "rooting" for anyone. They're all bad and playing their part in implementing the Great Reset.

But Zelensky is at least as evil as Putin.

The idea that Russia is the underdog is almost too laughable to comment on.

What I am rooting for is that the truth prevails. And as of now, Ukraine is losing in virtually ever metric you can think of.

If my house is glass, yours must be tissue paper!

Right. Do you even TRY to be informed? Not only is Ukraine low on all manner of ammo, but even US stockpiles are low, and affecting our ability to possibly deal with China.
In fact, so low, now the demon filled Biden is sending illegal cluster bombs that he himself recently said was awful because of civilian deaths.

LOL!! Russia is doing just fine economically. So much so they and the other BRICS nations are about to launch their gold backed currency to decimate the US dollar.

Yes it did. And Russia's response proves what a dumb idea it was. No more grain allowed to be shipped.

Did you even read the article? Or are you so mind numbed indoctrinated from the MSM, that nothing can penetrate.
First off....I don't watch MSM.
Second, I already stated they don't care what happens to Ukraine because they are not the target....only useful in obtaining the target which is the complete destruction of Russia.

Look at the Ruble....it's less than a penny. Meaning that the paper the Ruble is printed on is worth more than the Ruble.

BRICS is a pipe dream. All the nation's interested in participating are in financial straights. Four economically distressed nations don't make a economic block....they make a ward in the hospital for economic hardship cases.

And if you actually paid attention to Economics you would get that. (I know that it's a boring subject but if you go beyond "supply and demand" and into the meat of economics....CCP, Iran, Brazil and Russia each has their own problems at the moment. CCP has a banking and commercial paper problem that makes the investment banking issue in the USA a hiccup by comparison.
Iran is about to have a Civil War.
Brazil is having rampant inflation and instability because of their ties to CCP and government problems....the Real is not going to prop up BRICS. CCP can't hold it up with an IOU either...and currently including Russia is asking for a debt instead of a shoring up. Iran? They are going to become a banana republic very soon by all indications. Between the regional enemies and the overly strict sharia law....it's over for them. Their people are revolting and funding their enemies.
What you have claimed is wishful thinking....not a bit of truth. I don't know exactly where you are getting the Russian Federation propaganda....but come to reality. The numbers you have proposed simply don't exist.
 

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First off....I don't watch MSM.
Second, I already stated they don't care what happens to Ukraine because they are not the target....only useful in obtaining the target which is the complete destruction of Russia.

Look at the Ruble....it's less than a penny. Meaning that the paper the Ruble is printed on is worth more than the Ruble.

BRICS is a pipe dream. All the nation's interested in participating are in financial straights. Four economically distressed nations don't make a economic block....they make a ward in the hospital for economic hardship cases.

And if you actually paid attention to Economics you would get that. (I know that it's a boring subject but if you go beyond "supply and demand" and into the meat of economics....CCP, Iran, Brazil and Russia each has their own problems at the moment. CCP has a banking and commercial paper problem that makes the investment banking issue in the USA a hiccup by comparison.
Iran is about to have a Civil War.
Brazil is having rampant inflation and instability because of their ties to CCP and government problems....the Real is not going to prop up BRICS. CCP can't hold it up with an IOU either...and currently including Russia is asking for a debt instead of a shoring up. Iran? They are going to become a banana republic very soon by all indications. Between the regional enemies and the overly strict sharia law....it's over for them. Their people are revolting and funding their enemies.
What you have claimed is wishful thinking....not a bit of truth. I don't know exactly where you are getting the Russian Federation propaganda....but come to reality. The numbers you have proposed simply don't exist.
This is your prediction?
 

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First off....I don't watch MSM.
Second, I already stated they don't care what happens to Ukraine because they are not the target....only useful in obtaining the target which is the complete destruction of Russia.

Look at the Ruble....it's less than a penny. Meaning that the paper the Ruble is printed on is worth more than the Ruble.

BRICS is a pipe dream. All the nation's interested in participating are in financial straights. Four economically distressed nations don't make a economic block....they make a ward in the hospital for economic hardship cases.

And if you actually paid attention to Economics you would get that. (I know that it's a boring subject but if you go beyond "supply and demand" and into the meat of economics....CCP, Iran, Brazil and Russia each has their own problems at the moment. CCP has a banking and commercial paper problem that makes the investment banking issue in the USA a hiccup by comparison.
Iran is about to have a Civil War.
Brazil is having rampant inflation and instability because of their ties to CCP and government problems....the Real is not going to prop up BRICS. CCP can't hold it up with an IOU either...and currently including Russia is asking for a debt instead of a shoring up. Iran? They are going to become a banana republic very soon by all indications. Between the regional enemies and the overly strict sharia law....it's over for them. Their people are revolting and funding their enemies.
What you have claimed is wishful thinking....not a bit of truth. I don't know exactly where you are getting the Russian Federation propaganda....but come to reality. The numbers you have proposed simply don't exist.
That being said, should Saudi Arabia "pivot" to the Russian /Chinese mob bosses for "protection", it is checkmate in one fatal chessboard move. Frankly, everybody knows what is coming.

Saudi Arabia in talks to join China-based ‘Brics bank’
https://www.ft.com/content/45abe561-a6cc-4058-b0a1-ecdc46a2d839

"If after ten minutes at the poker table you do not know who the patsy is—you are the patsy."
 

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First off....I don't watch MSM.
Second, I already stated they don't care what happens to Ukraine because they are not the target....only useful in obtaining the target which is the complete destruction of Russia.

Look at the Ruble....it's less than a penny. Meaning that the paper the Ruble is printed on is worth more than the Ruble.

BRICS is a pipe dream. All the nation's interested in participating are in financial straights. Four economically distressed nations don't make a economic block....they make a ward in the hospital for economic hardship cases.

And if you actually paid attention to Economics you would get that. (I know that it's a boring subject but if you go beyond "supply and demand" and into the meat of economics....CCP, Iran, Brazil and Russia each has their own problems at the moment. CCP has a banking and commercial paper problem that makes the investment banking issue in the USA a hiccup by comparison.
Iran is about to have a Civil War.
Brazil is having rampant inflation and instability because of their ties to CCP and government problems....the Real is not going to prop up BRICS. CCP can't hold it up with an IOU either...and currently including Russia is asking for a debt instead of a shoring up. Iran? They are going to become a banana republic very soon by all indications. Between the regional enemies and the overly strict sharia law....it's over for them. Their people are revolting and funding their enemies.
What you have claimed is wishful thinking....not a bit of truth. I don't know exactly where you are getting the Russian Federation propaganda....but come to reality. The numbers you have proposed simply don't exist.
Tis but a flesh wound.....

Exclusive: India refiners start yuan payments for Russian oil imports
https://www.reuters.com/business/en...ments-russian-oil-imports-sources-2023-07-03/

Little known is the fact that the "international trade Yuan" is readily convertible to gold on the SGE (Shanghai gold exchange).
 

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Oh, I see! Runnin away! You yellow bellies! Just because we lost China, India, Indonesia and Russia.
@JohnDB is blowing more smoke and steam than a Union Pacific Big Boy.

Just a guess, but I suspect that the entire Arab world loathes Grandpa Sniffer and son. They have earned zero cred, zero respect.
 

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@JohnDB is blowing more smoke and steam than a Union Pacific Big Boy.

Just a guess, but I suspect that the entire Arab world loathes Grandpa Sniffer and son. They have earned zero cred, zero respect.
No surprise there, but France, Germany and UK are also moving away from the US.
 

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First off....I don't watch MSM.
Second, I already stated they don't care what happens to Ukraine because they are not the target....only useful in obtaining the target which is the complete destruction of Russia.

Look at the Ruble....it's less than a penny. Meaning that the paper the Ruble is printed on is worth more than the Ruble.

BRICS is a pipe dream. All the nation's interested in participating are in financial straights. Four economically distressed nations don't make a economic block....they make a ward in the hospital for economic hardship cases.

And if you actually paid attention to Economics you would get that. (I know that it's a boring subject but if you go beyond "supply and demand" and into the meat of economics....CCP, Iran, Brazil and Russia each has their own problems at the moment. CCP has a banking and commercial paper problem that makes the investment banking issue in the USA a hiccup by comparison.
Iran is about to have a Civil War.
Brazil is having rampant inflation and instability because of their ties to CCP and government problems....the Real is not going to prop up BRICS. CCP can't hold it up with an IOU either...and currently including Russia is asking for a debt instead of a shoring up. Iran? They are going to become a banana republic very soon by all indications. Between the regional enemies and the overly strict sharia law....it's over for them. Their people are revolting and funding their enemies.
What you have claimed is wishful thinking....not a bit of truth. I don't know exactly where you are getting the Russian Federation propaganda....but come to reality. The numbers you have proposed simply don't exist.
BRICS is a pipe dream??

not hardly. they are doing well, and saudi arabia could be joining.


if they do, and they abandon the petro dollar, out economy is sunk....
 

cv5

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I have always said that Russia will use this SMO to test the mil hardware (theirs and ours) resources and resolve of the West. Another gambit turned sour IMO.


remote

NATO armour has proved almost worthless against the russian lancets and kornets. The kornets have been so successful against heavy tanks the Russians are expanding production. The kornets kill range makes them formidable and NATO has no answer.


Dejan

Russia supposedly has 200k Lancet drones in stock with a million in production. It that is actually true, they have enough firepower to destroy all of NATO’s armor…several times over.
 

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Arch_Stanton

You do not know the slightest thing about what is happening.
Ukraine has issued a general mobilization order for all men between 16 and 60 with no exception for medical hardship.
This is the final call up.
These are unfit, untrained and unmotivated "soldiers", literally cannon fodder.
They are being called up, because all of Ukraine's trained and motivated soldiers are long dead or disabled.
These reluctant warriors will die by the thousands and then that's it.
Unless Finns, Poles. Swedes and the Dutch want to step up.
 

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Here is a comprehensive general overview of the frontlines. It is pretty good and accurate. With Poland, Finland, and an un -named third party ready, willing, and EAGER to cross international boundaries to come to Ukraine's assistance....

But the assessment is an accurate detailed overview.

 

cv5

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With Poland, Finland, and an un -named third party ready, willing, and EAGER to cross international boundaries to come to Ukraine's assistance....
Thats the chatter I have been hearing as well. Tragically, escalation continues.

Dying for Z the puppet and his handlers and Grandpa Sniffer and son is a cruel and foolish gambit.

The glory of the meat grinder awaits.