Ukraine the bad guy?

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For most, this went down the memory hole....

"At 2 a.m. this morning [March 7, 2014] an unmarked transport plane was on the runway at Borispol Airport (right) [east of Kiev]. According to airport staff, before the plane came to the airport, four trucks and two Volkswagen minibuses arrived, all the truck license plates missing.

Fifteen people in black uniforms, masks, and body armor stepped out, some armed with machine guns. They loaded the plane with more than 40 heavy boxes. After that a mysterious man arrived and entered the plane.

All loading was done in a hurry. The plane took off on an emergency basis. Those who saw this mysterious special operation immediately notified the airport officials, who told the callers not to meddle in other people’s affairs.

Later a returned call from a senior official of the former Ministry of Revenue reported that tonight, on the orders of one of the new leaders of Ukraine, the United States had taken custody of all the gold reserves in Ukraine.”

https://thebulletin.ca/ukraine-gold-reserves-confiscated-by-new-york-federal-reserve/
 
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Strelkov was the online speaker for the military sentiments....
Which is yet ANOTHER problem for Putin. All those "Z" painted on military vehicles and patches on Russian uniforms are basically Igor's fan base. Just about every Russian soldier (even Wagner Group mercenaries) have a patch with a "Z" on it.

Totalitarian regimes (like Russia has become) must have the support of the military to keep in power. The second the dictator loses control over the military its over.

Telegram has exploded and continues to be in outrage over this news.

After Prigozhin's rebellion....how much longer until some Russian forces leave Ukraine to deal with the leadership at home?
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Well it did not take too long for you to be vindicated. Mad Tsar Putin's purges continue and all of Strelkov's associates are being rounded up. On top of this 200 Wicked Russians were sent to hell in one single blow. Despite the atrocities of Wicked Russia against Ukraine, particularly Odessa of late, our God continues to fight the apostates of Wicked Russia and continues to strengthen the hands of Ukraine. All of Wicked Russia's lies and the taunts of their sympaticos echoing back their propaganda will not overcome the God of Truth. PRAISE JESUS!

 
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cv5 said:
the United States had taken custody of all the gold reserves in Ukraine.”
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Okay, it all makes sense now.... sort of. Kinda overpaying for this gold. I mean, not that the gold actually justifies anything; but, it makes some sense.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
Okay, it all makes sense now.... sort of. Kinda overpaying for this gold. I mean, not that the gold actually justifies anything; but, it makes some sense.
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The gold is not going to America or our debt. Has Biden or the military referred to it? They would be patting themselves on the back and using this to campaign if they were going to give it to us.

Biden is working with the Kazarian mafia, the people who run human trafficking. You think those guys would let Biden take their gold without a fight?
 
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ZNP said:
The gold is not going to America or our debt. Has Biden or the military referred to it? They would be patting themselves on the back and using this to campaign if they were going to give it to us.
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This happened back in 2014, though; I'm guessing that our government took it foreseeing that the Russians might come and snatch it up. Back then, I think Obama was distancing the US government from the goings-on in Ukraine, because it would give away the fact that we were behind the Maidan revolution too early.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
This happened back in 2014, though; I'm guessing that our government took it foreseeing that the Russians might come and snatch it up. Back then, I think Obama was distancing the US government from the goings-on in Ukraine, because it would give away the fact that we were behind the Maidan revolution too early.
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My point is simple, none of this goes to pay down our debt. It may go to black ops, it may be payment from the mafia to the CIA for services rendered, etc. But If they wanted to say hey, we just got $100 billion from Ukraine it would be very helpful for them politically. Did they do that? No, they may have gotten $100 billion in gold from Ukraine, but when it came time to supply them weapons it was the US taxpayer that payed for that, they had other plans for that $100 billion or however much it was.

Did they say that the weapons sent to Ukraine was part of an arms deal that Ukraine was paying for? No.

That money went from one mafioso to another, and yes, the US government and CIA are acting like crime families.

That gold does not justify our actions, it convicts us of being complicit in their crimes.
 
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ZNP said:
My point is simple, none of this goes to pay down our debt. It may go to black ops, it may be payment from the mafia to the CIA for services rendered, etc. But If they wanted to say hey, we just got $100 billion from Ukraine it would be very helpful for them politically. Did they do that? No, they may have gotten $100 billion in gold from Ukraine, but when it came time to supply them weapons it was the US taxpayer that payed for that, they had other plans for that $100 billion or however much it was.

Did they say that the weapons sent to Ukraine was part of an arms deal that Ukraine was paying for? No.

That money went from one mafioso to another, and yes, the US government and CIA are acting like crime families.

That gold does not justify our actions, it convicts us of being complicit in their crimes.
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Somebody ate their Wheaties this morning....
 
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SomeDisciple said:
This happened back in 2014, though; I'm guessing that our government took it foreseeing that the Russians might come and snatch it up. Back then, I think Obama was distancing the US government from the goings-on in Ukraine, because it would give away the fact that we were behind the Maidan revolution too early.
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Same thing happened in Libya and Iraq. Thats how they roll....first order of business is abscond with the shiney.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
This happened back in 2014, though; I'm guessing that our government took it foreseeing that the Russians might come and snatch it up. Back then, I think Obama was distancing the US government from the goings-on in Ukraine, because it would give away the fact that we were behind the Maidan revolution too early.
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In terms of the "rules-based order", the first "order" of business (after the invasion) is to grab the gold. Ask @JohnDB .....he will tell you.

They even tried to grift GERMANY'S gold, which was being held in the FED vaults.

After much begging, pleading, bowing and scraping.....the US finally returned it. In installments over a term of decades ROFL.

They are all a political mafia. Sick.
 
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ZNP said:
$100 billion or however much it was.
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33 Tons @ <$2 billion according to the article. Maybe enough to pay for the fuel costs to ship them weapons.

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Same thing happened in Libya and Iraq. Thats how they roll....first order of business is abscond with the shiney.
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But the US is supposedly not the invaders this time. I wonder if we're plundering other resources from them too....
 
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PRAISE JESUS big developping news as it appears that the Valiant Ukrainians are slicing through Wicked Russia and may have punched a hole through the Unhoyl Russian's defenses! What a fantastic way to debut the American and European allied supplied Bradley and Leopard tanks sent to help the good guys fend off the most evil of all the countries in our lifetime, PRAISE JESUS!

 
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