Ukraine the bad guy?

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cv5

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Here is an ACCURATE assessment of the current situation militarily.

Not Russian propaganda as SOME people like to regurgitate and spew at everyone.

There's always going to be bloodshed with war. And 99/100 times military actions do not resolve conflicts.

And Wagner/Belarus/Russia is starting yet ANOTHER war on the border with Poland and Lithuania.


This has ALL the trappings of an Article 5 violation. Whether you wish it to be or not....

Within 6 hours of the first nuclear missiles flying the 3rd world War will be over.
I absolutely agree with the commentator on these points: absurdly suicidal and faulty AFU attack doctrine.
See the same video FF to 3:56. These phenomenon so described by the commentator is EXACTLY what the videos that I posted are seen to record.

 

cv5

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This has ALL the trappings of an Article 5 violation.
Not to mention the fact of NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine right now. And they have been for quite some time.

So then has article 5 already been triggered in kind of a stealthily illegal, inverse sort of cockamamie way?
 

JohnDB

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Not to mention the fact of NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine right now. And they have been for quite some time.

So then has article 5 already been triggered in kind of a stealthily illegal, inverse sort of cockamamie way?
Well,
There are NO NATO troops in Ukraine except at the Embassies. They certainly are not engaged in fighting.

And article 5 is more likely going to be triggered by Russia...not by NATO.

Currently Wagner and Belarus are looking to attack both Poland and Lithuania....thinking that they can play fast and loose with the border and get away with it.

We'll know about 6 hours after they attack because that is an article 5....and there will be a full nuclear exchange.
 

cv5

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This analysis of Zapo is spot on. And I have drawn precisely the same conclusion. Without a fully integrated and well planned AFU assault, every attack ends up as a meat grinder event where Russian fire from the flanks wipes out the column. Every single time.

Time for sanity to prevail so that there is a path forward to begin peace negotiations.

 
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Great news updates, praise Jesus! The valiant Ukrainian Breach is turning into a total blowout as the brave Ukrainian forces armed with superior American and European tanks have broken the backs of Wicked Russia in Zaporozhia and has regained 100 sq. miles of their homeland that the Wicked Russians invaded for the sake of all lies. To put this into perspective that's a reversal of 6 months of Unholy Russia's gains, which they haven't really made any since fizzling out in Spring of last year at hte onset o their fullscale invasion. On top of this in the wider view of things the bridge between Crimea and Wicked Russia has been more thoroughly damaged after being struck again, praise Jesus. Massive attacks by the valiant Holy Russian Revolution continue throughout Evil Russia, even reaching so far as Moscow, praise Jesus. Finally aside from military problems in the diplomatic sphere the Wicked Mad Tsar Putin has been barred from entering South Africa for the BRICS Summit by President Ramaphosa of South Africa citing that Mad Putin is an international wanted criminal for his involvement in abducting children. After threatening to declare war on South Africa Wicked Putin was forced by God to stand down in defeat and cancel his appearance at the major BRICS Summit that would have tainted South Africa's honor and reputation, PRAISE JESUS!



 

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Great news updates, praise Jesus! The valiant Ukrainian Breach is turning into a total blowout as the brave Ukrainian forces armed with superior American and European tanks have broken the backs of Wicked Russia in Zaporozhia and has regained 100 sq. miles of their homeland that the Wicked Russians invaded for the sake of all lies. To put this into perspective that's a reversal of 6 months of Unholy Russia's gains, which they haven't really made any since fizzling out in Spring of last year at hte onset o their fullscale invasion. On top of this in the wider view of things the bridge between Crimea and Wicked Russia has been more thoroughly damaged after being struck again, praise Jesus. Massive attacks by the valiant Holy Russian Revolution continue throughout Evil Russia, even reaching so far as Moscow, praise Jesus. Finally aside from military problems in the diplomatic sphere the Wicked Mad Tsar Putin has been barred from entering South Africa for the BRICS Summit by President Ramaphosa of South Africa citing that Mad Putin is an international wanted criminal for his involvement in abducting children. After threatening to declare war on South Africa Wicked Putin was forced by God to stand down in defeat and cancel his appearance at the major BRICS Summit that would have tainted South Africa's honor and reputation, PRAISE JESUS!



more terrorist propaganda that's all this is.
 

cv5

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and has regained 100 sq. miles of their homeland
Ukraine total area: 233,062 sq mi
Occupied territory: apx 50,000 sq mi

100/50,000 = .002 or 0.2%

15 remaining AFU battalions are NOT going to retake any significant amount of occupied territory.
The only rational and humane consideration that remains is to begin peace negotiations immediately and save as many lives as possible.
 

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but, the powers that should not be are, that want the conflict to continue , are not rational, not humane , and could care less about saving lives.
 
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Wicked Russia can remove themselves from Ukraine, cast out Putin and Kirill to the grave, and surrender all of their wicked boyars to the edge of the sword and confess they started this war for a lie and repent of it and create a holy government and beg God to forgive them for adhering to Satan's lies, and they may return to Jesus at any ime, but they refuse! Therefore will the Lord God consume all of Wicked Russia from the bottommost scum to the top of the pyramid scheme of the satanic spiritual principality of Wicked Russia where rules wicked Tsar Putin himself. The bad guys of Wicked Russia will be defeated in all ways by the marvellous and strong God, Jesus Christ, and God will strengthen the good guys of Ukraine and the innocent whom have been attacked by evil Russia for no other reason than Wicked Russia's greed and murderous lust. The light at the end of this is able to be seen take hope all faithful believers of Jesus for he works marvellously strong. PRAISE JESUS!

 

cv5

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Russia will be defeated.......
Lets try and be rational and calculate the time needed for this "defeat":
50 days = 0.2% reclaimed territory.
25,000 days = 100% reclaimed territory.

Yeah that's about 70 years fella.
End this absurd war and end it now.
 

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I was wondering:
Did @BearerOfTheMorningStar @JohnDB and @Gideon300 all bomb out of math class?
Sure did. But I did not fail common sense. I also refused to take the wishful thinking course. You should try using the brain God gave you instead of being ruled by emotion. Do you know Greta Thunberg by any chance? You'd get on just fine with her. Make sweeping pronouncements without one clue as to how to bring the result about. I'm sure Vlad will be itching to hear how you plan to end the war. Hint: "stop it" aint gonna work.
 

cv5

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Sure did. But I did not fail common sense. I also refused to take the wishful thinking course.
Common sense says that a mere 15 battalions will NEVER be able to successfully attack a 1000 KM front line and reclaim all lost territory.

Wishful thinking keeps sending AFU raw recruits to the front in Bradley's over open fields enduring lethal ATGM's and artillery without air support, resulting in an 80% casualty rate.
 

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Common sense says that a mere 15 battalions will NEVER be able to successfully attack a 1000 KM front line and reclaim all lost territory.

Wishful thinking keeps sending AFU raw recruits to the front in Bradley's over open fields enduring lethal ATGM's and artillery without air support, resulting in an 80% casualty rate.
Wait till the new 60 year old recruits show up, Russia won't know what hit them. (kind of like back in the 70s when I would have clean all the bugs off my windshield and would often find some really big ones that I didn't know what they were).
 

cv5

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Wait till the new 60 year old recruits show up, Russia won't know what hit them. (kind of like back in the 70s when I would have clean all the bugs off my windshield and would often find some really big ones that I didn't know what they were).
Even the dumbest armchair warlord understands that Russia is presently using the "hammer-anvil" strategy to completely destroy all remaining AFU units.

The Ukrainians are wasting their lives at the behest of whom? Boris J, Grandpa Sniffer and Z?