United Nations set to debate human right violations of the US

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UnoiAmarah

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Member States in Africa have petitioned the United Nations Human Rights Counsel to conduct hearings on the systemic racism and police brutality in the United States inflicted upon those who identify themselves as being African-americans. The UNHRC is set to meet on this matter on Wednesday June 17, 2020. Link

I wonder how many people believe Mr. Floyd had went into the Cup Food store on the day he died?

The videos released shows the store clerk exiting the store and walking to Mr. Floyd's vehicle but there is no video of Mr. Floyd walking to the store. And what is wrong with the video we can see is that the store clerk claims that he identified the counterfeit $20 bill before Mr. Floyd had exited the store. Therefore, if the store clerk said that they ran back outside after they identified it as a counterfeit, then if the
store clerk was only 25 feet away from the front door of the store that Mr. Floyd used to exit the store too, then wouldn't you expect that Mr. Floyd would have at least moved 25 feet too, the same as the store clerk?

Therefore if it is approximately 50 feet from the front door of the store to where Mr. Floyd's vehicle was parked then I don't quite understand why Mr. Floyd doesn't appear in the footage if Mr. Floyd would still had 25 feet to go before reaching his vehicle.

If anyone knows where footage recorded before the point the store clerk exits could either be viewed or purchased I would be interested, however I don't think the folks at Dragon Wok would not have included all relevant footage, including that of Mr. Floyd walking to and fro if it had been recorded.
 

Magenta

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Member States in Africa have petitioned the United Nations Human Rights Counsel to conduct hearings on the systemic racism and police brutality in the United States inflicted upon those who identify themselves as being African-americans.
Have similar hearings been petitioned to be conducted on the racism in Africa?
 

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The United States needs to leave the UN and evict that organization from NYC. The US provides most of the funding and gets nothing in return except getting stabbed in the back by the countries that are jealous and hate America. Totally worthless organization.
 

Nehemiah6

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The United States needs to leave the UN and evict that organization from NYC.
Correct. This should have happened four years ago (at the very least). At the same time a Special Commission should have been set up by the USA to investigate the UN, its corruption, and its failure to stop several genocides worldwide. Recall that Mr. Trump flip-flopped about defunding the WHO (and apparently did do it eventually). And he also failed to set up an independent international Special Commission to investigate the Wuhan Conspiracy.
 

UnoiAmarah

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Have similar hearings been petitioned to be conducted on the racism in Africa?
If not mistaken, a person has to have an IQ of 54 or higher before anything they say or do can be considered racist or as an act of racism.

If those citizens who identify themselves as supporters of groups the likes of Black Live Matters and such don't consider black people can be racist then I believe them, but that is solely because of what is written in 1 Cor 13:7.
 
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If not mistaken, a person has to have an IQ of 54 or higher before anything they say or do can be considered racist or as an act of racism.

If those citizens who identify themselves as supporters of groups the likes of Black Live Matters and such don't consider black people can be racist then I believe them, but that is solely because of what is written in 1 Cor 13:7.
You meant a lower IQ than 54 right?
 

Godsgirl83

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If not mistaken, a person has to have an IQ of 54 or higher before anything they say or do can be considered racist or as an act of racism.
You meant a lower IQ than 54 right?
A person with an I.Q. lower than 54 would be considered so far below average as to be impaired, or disabled :geek:
(copied/pasted from WEBMD-because it sums up what I want to say in a much better way than I can word it- bold italics on the last sentence were made by me)

Intellectual disability (ID), once called mental retardation, is characterized by below-average intelligence or mental ability and a lack of skills necessary for day-to-day living. People with intellectual disabilities can and do learn new skills, but they learn them more slowly. There are varying degrees of intellectual disability, from mild to profound.

What is intellectual disability?
Someone with intellectual disability has limitations in two areas. These areas are:

  • Intellectual functioning. Also known as IQ, this refers to a person’s ability to learn, reason, make decisions, and solve problems.
  • Adaptive behaviors. These are skills necessary for day-to-day life, such as being able to communicate effectively, interact with others, and take care of oneself.
IQ (intelligence quotient) is measured by an IQ test. The average IQ is 100, with the majority of people scoring between 85 and 115. A person is considered intellectually disabled if he or she has an IQ of less than 70 to 75.
 

UnoiAmarah

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You meant a lower IQ than 54 right?
In order for a person to be responsible for racist comments or acts of racism their IQ must be higher than 54, but science changes almost daily so they might have raised it to less than 70 to 75 as the new standard.

You don't consider individuals with an IQ of less than 54 to be responsible for what they say or do, do you?

"a person has to have an IQ of 54 or higher before anything they say or do can be considered racist or as an act of racism."
 

UnoiAmarah

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Better earn those CCP bribes you UN dogs.
Could you explain your comment since the topic regards the UN Human Rights Counsel holding debates regarding the death of George Floyd, an innocent black man that was removed from his vehicle at gun point, without cause other than simply because of the color of his skin, by Police who then proceeded to brutally murdered in the street by Officers of the Minneapolis Police Department, or at least that is what most people in the United States believe occurred. You do believe that Mr. Floyd was murdered by the police don't you?

Have you even read the Grand Jury indictment of these officers?
 

Magenta

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. . .regarding the death of George Floyd, an innocent black man that was removed from his vehicle at gun point, without cause other than simply because of the color of his skin, by Police who then proceeded to brutally murdered in the street by Officers of the Minneapolis Police Department, or at least that is what most people in the United States believe occurred. You do believe that Mr. Floyd was murdered by the police don't you?
He was under suspicion of passing counterfeit money.
 

UnoiAmarah

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He was under suspicion of passing counterfeit money.
Okay, when you say 'under suspicion' for passing a counterfeit bill then are you saying that you believe that it is a criminal act if a person uses a counterfeit bill as legal tender?
 

Magenta

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Okay, when you say 'under suspicion' for passing a counterfeit bill then are you saying that you believe that it is a criminal act if a person uses a counterfeit bill as legal tender?
It most certainly is illegal to use a counterfeit bill as legal tender.
 

Magenta

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Only if the person knows it is a counterfeit bill.
It is illegal either way. A person suspected of passing fake money may be charged with one or more crimes, including forgery, fraud, or other theft-related offenses. If they can prove they were unaware the money was counterfeit, no conviction will result from the charge.
 

Hungry

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Member States in Africa have petitioned the United Nations Human Rights Counsel to conduct hearings on the systemic racism and police brutality in the United States inflicted upon those who identify themselves as being African-americans. The UNHRC is set to meet on this matter on Wednesday June 17, 2020. Link

I wonder how many people believe Mr. Floyd had went into the Cup Food store on the day he died?

The videos released shows the store clerk exiting the store and walking to Mr. Floyd's vehicle but there is no video of Mr. Floyd walking to the store. And what is wrong with the video we can see is that the store clerk claims that he identified the counterfeit $20 bill before Mr. Floyd had exited the store. Therefore, if the store clerk said that they ran back outside after they identified it as a counterfeit, then if the store clerk was only 25 feet away from the front door of the store that Mr. Floyd used to exit the store too, then wouldn't you expect that Mr. Floyd would have at least moved 25 feet too, the same as the store clerk?

Therefore if it is approximately 50 feet from the front door of the store to where Mr. Floyd's vehicle was parked then I don't quite understand why Mr. Floyd doesn't appear in the footage if Mr. Floyd would still had 25 feet to go before reaching his vehicle.

If anyone knows where footage recorded before the point the store clerk exits could either be viewed or purchased I would be interested, however I don't think the folks at Dragon Wok would not have included all relevant footage, including that of Mr. Floyd walking to and fro if it had been recorded.
Racism is a global problem. It’s no more prevalent in the US than anywhere else. The police officers were charged. What do you suppose a debate about racism will accomplish? I will say both the US and Canada (my home) have welcomed millions of immigrants and refugees over the years. I have seen our culture greatly accept people of all races and creeds. You never hear the stories about how the people at my work got together and threw a baby shower for a newly landed Sri Lankan co worker, supplying all of his needs. He had no family here and we all stepped up. This is not an isolated occurrence. We are a very tolerant and accepting people.You only hear about a police officer, who used excessive force on a black man. If people want truth, this is truth: Everybody has preconceptions. Whether they are merited or not, they are real. It’s part of our survival make up. Black men and women have just as much prejudice towards white people. Look at how this story has got attention. Because a white officer killed a black man, he has to be a racist? Is it possible that during this officer’s career he has seen some horrible and violent things? Is it possible that he lives in fear every time he goes to work? Fear is what causes racism. I’m a white dude and I can tell you when a big black man looks at me it’s different then when a big white man looks at me. It’s not my imagination. He’s trying to stare me down. I understand he’s not trying to scare me. He’s establishing he’s not afraid of me. I don’t look away and show intimidation. I smile and nod. Every time his gaze becomes less intense and he usually smiles back. His prejudice (fear) caused him to initiate a warning. How many black men do you suppose give this “antagonistic” look to white police officers? How many white police officers feel genuinely threatened, and afraid? The only way to combat racism is to replace fear with love. The world doesn’t need a debate, it needs JESUS.
 

UnoiAmarah

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It is illegal either way. A person suspected of passing fake money may be charged with one or more crimes, including forgery, fraud, or other theft-related offenses. If they can prove they were unaware the money was counterfeit, no conviction will result from the charge.
A person hasn't violated the law by uttering or possessing counterfeit money unless the person has reason to know the bill is counterfeit. If the store clerk didn't observe anything suspicious about the bill before completing the transaction and the Police officers couldn't visually detect that it was a counterfeit bill then there is no reason to believe anyone using the bill could have known it was counterfeit.

Minnesota Criminal Code, Chapter 609
609.632 COUNTERFEITING OF CURRENCY.
§Subd. 3.Uttering or possessing.
Whoever, with intent to defraud, utters or possesses with intent to utter any counterfeit United States postal money order, United States currency, Federal Reserve note, or other obligation or security of the United States, having reason to know that the money order, currency, note, or obligation or security is forged, counterfeited, falsely made, altered, or printed, is guilty of offering counterfeited currency and may be sentenced as provided in subdivision 4.

The Police would have to had seen Mr. Floyd actually passed the counterfeit bill before seizing his person at gun point, unless the $ 20 bill was such a reasonable person should have known it was fake but that is not what the facts suggest.

"A seizure of a person, within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment, occurs when the police's conduct would communicate to a reasonable person, taking into account the circumstances surrounding the encounter, that the person is not free to ignore the police presence and leave at his will. " SOURCE

At this point it doesn't appear they can even prove that Mr. Floyd ever departed his vehicle once it stopped across the street from the store. If he never went into the store then there obviously is probable cause to believe he passed a counterfeit bill in the store.