What, in the name of Goodness, is the Illuminati?

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Elijah19

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OK, so I keep hearing people talk about this massively Uber-Evil organization that apparently controls everything without our noticing, and is responsible for all our problems. From lost keys to nuclear bombs, it seems like everything gets thrown at the "Illuminati," yet everybody I ask about them spins a completely different crazy story...!

Let's get serious folks. I don't doubt that there are probably plenty of evil organizations running our world with cloak and dagger (our government, private sector, and IRS to name a few).

But seriously, who are these people? Could it be possible that the Illuminati don't exist and that humanity is just a stupid bunch of jerks that screws everything up so bad they wonder how they could possibly do it, then blames the invisible organization for their mess ups?

I don't know if you've noticed, but humanity isn't really that smart. However, I grant you that it does seem that there is a lot of organization behind the bad stuff that happens in our world. It's almost like it's done on purpose. I blame that on Satan, however.

But who knows? Maybe they do exist, so I'll give a little space here for chitchat about it. Sound off if you feel you have some info, and tell us all if the Illuminati exist or not. If they do or don't, give your reason for why you think that way. Provide whatever evidence you can.

Me? I'm gonna go with The Devil and his Cronies are responsible for this screwed up state we're in, and mankind tends to follow them like sheep. All the order behind the chaos is just evidence of Hell's Machine ticking on our side of eternity, not some ultra-powerful group of human bigwigs...

Also, does anyone think that the Masons might be in with the Illuminati, or are they just a bunch of good men who like to keep secrets.

I have known many Masons in my life, and even been invited on many counts to become one because of my behavior and work ethic. They seem nice enough, and I could never picture many of my Mason friends as Satanists and Devil Worshipers who are trying to run the world...
 
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you won't find a bunch of good men in the freemasons plague (vs just plain mason/bricklayer/worker with a trade). 'newbies' not too far into it perhaps not yet fully corrupted, but they either get out to save their own souls, or die. there's more than enough 'truth' from insiders who got out, whistleblowers if you prefer, to remain far far far from them and their wickednesses; as well as first and foremost you will find in scripture a lot that rejects what freemasons plague(the higher up, the worse) live and teach and practice.

yes, the devil and his cronies are behind the freemasons, and also behind the other groups of men who work evil on earth.

that is written in scripture.

and you may not find anyone willing to tell the truth about the group they are in - whether 'religious' , 'political', 'economic' or a mix.... freedom does not and has never come from growing in a group further in sin , but
from revelation of the one and only savior yahshua hamashiach when yahweh abba draws or calls someone to himself.(and IF he does; yahweh does as he pleases, always).
 
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They are reptilian shapeshifters who can go for years without food or water....like cuban cigars, the largest crickets you can find at pet smart and like houses with lots of windows.
 
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jaybird88

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Sirk said:
They are reptilian shapeshifters who can go for years without food or water....like cuban cigars, the largest crickets you can find at pet smart and like houses with lots of windows.
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houses with lots of windows??? now thats just crazy talk!!
 
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Ugly

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As long as Christians are too busy focusing on the Illuminati they don't have time to blame Satan or spend time preaching the Gospel. Too busy uncovering theoretical boogey-man organizations to keep their eyes on the scriptures and God. It's a great Satanic ploy, actually.
 
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JustinFromTwinCities

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The "illuminati", freemasonry and all of the other "secret" societies is how Satan controls this world. It is a pyramid scheme of power and wealth which has at its very top, Satan. Those at the very bottom have no idea what they are in to, but as you go up the pyramid, people are more and more aware that they in fact worship Lucifer even to the point of performing satanic rituals for power, wealth, obedience to their master. It has it's roots in the eden and the Babylonian mystery religion and egypt and so on and takes on many forms. He convices people that he is God and desires to enlighten us. Satan has always controlled this world since the fall of man, by controlling men through sin and evil desires:
Matthew 4:8 "8 Again, the devil *took Him to a very high mountain and *showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory;9 and he said to Him, “All these things I will give You, if You fall down and [c]worship me.”10 Then Jesus *said to him,“Go, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and [d]serve Him only.’”11 Then the devil *left Him; and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him."

You notice Jesus did not disagree with what Satan had said. I believe that Satan still offers men of his choosing great wealth and power if those men work to willfully and knowingly further his goals.
Practically every government in existence, the UN, the Roman Catholic Church, Hollywood, the Jesuits etc... are under complete Satanic influence to the degree which God allows. Satan plays us against each other, controlling people on both sides of wars, both sides of political parties, religious matters, laws etc... Confusing us and trying to get us to focus on things which are insignificant and keeping our attention away from that which is important.

Ephesians 6:11 "…11Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.13Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.…"

Many many people become overwhelmed by this realization. It consumes them and they become paralyzed and hateful towards the men in "power". But the truth is this - God is good and His plan is perfect. These "bad" men and Satan may believe themselves to be in control, yet they are merely playing a critical role in God's plan and then they will be no more. I am thankful for them, because I am so glad that I was not made to play their roles. If they can be saved, that is what we should desire and pray for. Do not fear these men or Satan.

Satan has a very limited power in all reality. He can only offer us things which our flesh desires/the things of this world. When we walk in the Spirit and reject him and his temptations, he has no power over us. Unfortunately, non-Christians are unable to withstand him and his temptations so they are slaves to him and to sin.

Guard yourself that looking into such things does not consume you or take you off the path of love and Christ. But that said, it is fascinating to see it all in action and can be a form of re-enforcement to our beliefs and the nature of our reality as told to us by God in the Bible.
 
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There is a group of people that have a secret organization, The people is the group are rich, and i mean super rich. Now they like the fact that there are much rumors about the Illuminati, and even the free masons. But this secret Group which is called .... .... ... Well it is a secret, and only the members knows its name. This group works behind the scenes. For example this group of people will decide who the next president of the United States will be. For example whoever they don't pick as the president, they will hire private detectives and spend huge amounts of money to discredit all other candidates running for presidency, they will cause some to quietly drop out of the running, and leak stuff to the public, sometimes stuff that is untrue, but just enough to damage that persons reputation.
They get what they want, because they have the money to make things happen. When they do something that is questionable, all of a sudden it is leaked that the Illuminati may have had something to do with it, Which works perfectly for the True secret group to have an escape goat saying the Illuminati must have done that. This group would even have the money to promote the Illuminati belief, because it helps them stay secret all the while they remain hidden if everyone is looking for the Illuminati.
By the time you read this i may be dead, because i have said to much already.
But i know where i am going, i am not scared.

^i^
 
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JustinFromTwinCities

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Islam is controlled by the secret societies too to give you another example of their influence. I believe Muhammad probably was visited by an angel, only that it was a fallen angel. Same goes for Joseph Smith and Mormonism. Even the great "men of peace" have come from these societies. The world banks are controlled by satan, enslaving us in debt with money that is created from nothing. The majority of the corporations are within the web. Basically anything, you name it. It contains all wealth, worldly power, nations ,everything. It sounds crazy I know. But they put their symbols everywhere to confirm it. It is crazy the extent of it all and who is a pawn in it.

It isn't fabricated to deceive us, it exists to deceive us. Make us think we have worldly things to fight for, make us think we have a choice in our government (like we should vote for right wingers because they are the most christian etc). Makes us think Satan isn't in control.

He is in control of this world in many ways. Just dont forget that he is merely playing his role in God's plan.
 
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Jeff_56 said:
you won't find a bunch of good men in the freemasons plague (vs just plain mason/bricklayer/worker with a trade). 'newbies' not too far into it perhaps not yet fully corrupted, but they either get out to save their own souls, or die. there's more than enough 'truth' from insiders who got out, whistleblowers if you prefer, to remain far far far from them and their wickednesses; as well as first and foremost you will find in scripture a lot that rejects what freemasons plague(the higher up, the worse) live and teach and practice.

yes, the devil and his cronies are behind the freemasons, and also behind the other groups of men who work evil on earth.

that is written in scripture.

and you may not find anyone willing to tell the truth about the group they are in - whether 'religious' , 'political', 'economic' or a mix.... freedom does not and has never come from growing in a group further in sin , but
from revelation of the one and only savior yahshua hamashiach when yahweh abba draws or calls someone to himself.(and IF he does; yahweh does as he pleases, always).
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q1hnkp5Zqw

solomon used masons to build the temple as well, with the king of Tyre
 
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JustinFromTwinCities

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Illuminati means those who are "illumined", by Lucifier the light bearer. Some know the truth, most do not, Lucifer has many many ways to deceive us.

All the religions are awaiting their "Enlightened Masters" (their messiahs) to return soon, to "guide" humanity to the next phase of our "spiritual enlightenment" or evolution.

All that matters is Christ. Everything else in this world might as well be considered an illusion or deception.
 
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The Illuminati were a Bavarian sect committed to the enlightenment, a movement against dogmatism and ignorance that focused on the progression of science, the non-metaphysical furtherance of human morality and education. They opposed superstition, church rule and abuse of government power, and upheld egalitarian ideals and social equality.

They're the historical equivalent of modern, moral secular humanists, a group to which corrupt bankers, corrupt politicians, fraudsters and shysters do not belong.
 
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Elijah19 said:
OK, so I keep hearing people talk about this massively Uber-Evil organization that apparently controls everything without our noticing, and is responsible for all our problems. From lost keys to nuclear bombs, it seems like everything gets thrown at the "Illuminati," yet everybody I ask about them spins a completely different crazy story...!

Let's get serious folks. I don't doubt that there are probably plenty of evil organizations running our world with cloak and dagger (our government, private sector, and IRS to name a few).

But seriously, who are these people? Could it be possible that the Illuminati don't exist and that humanity is just a stupid bunch of jerks that screws everything up so bad they wonder how they could possibly do it, then blames the invisible organization for their mess ups?

I don't know if you've noticed, but humanity isn't really that smart. However, I grant you that it does seem that there is a lot of organization behind the bad stuff that happens in our world. It's almost like it's done on purpose. I blame that on Satan, however.

But who knows? Maybe they do exist, so I'll give a little space here for chitchat about it. Sound off if you feel you have some info, and tell us all if the Illuminati exist or not. If they do or don't, give your reason for why you think that way. Provide whatever evidence you can.

Me? I'm gonna go with The Devil and his Cronies are responsible for this screwed up state we're in, and mankind tends to follow them like sheep. All the order behind the chaos is just evidence of Hell's Machine ticking on our side of eternity, not some ultra-powerful group of human bigwigs...

Also, does anyone think that the Masons might be in with the Illuminati, or are they just a bunch of good men who like to keep secrets.

I have known many Masons in my life, and even been invited on many counts to become one because of my behavior and work ethic. They seem nice enough, and I could never picture many of my Mason friends as Satanists and Devil Worshipers who are trying to run the world...
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If you want to learn about the Illuminati, just read all the Old Testament stories involving the Philistines... the Illuminati are the modern day Philistines.
 
AuphirahQueen

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JustinFromTwinCities said:
Islam is controlled by the secret societies too to give you another example of their influence. I believe Muhammad probably was visited by an angel, only that it was a fallen angel. Same goes for Joseph Smith and Mormonism. Even the great "men of peace" have come from these societies. The world banks are controlled by satan, enslaving us in debt with money that is created from nothing. The majority of the corporations are within the web. Basically anything, you name it. It contains all wealth, worldly power, nations ,everything. It sounds crazy I know. But they put their symbols everywhere to confirm it. It is crazy the extent of it all and who is a pawn in it.

It isn't fabricated to deceive us, it exists to deceive us. Make us think we have worldly things to fight for, make us think we have a choice in our government (like we should vote for right wingers because they are the most christian etc). Makes us think Satan isn't in control.

He is in control of this world in many ways. Just dont forget that he is merely playing his role in God's plan.
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There is a movie I watched last week called : They Live a powerful movie about today's society and this movie is from 1988.
 
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jaybird88

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AuphirahQueen said:
There is a movie I watched last week called : They Live a powerful movie about today's society and this movie is from 1988.
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I loved that movie when I was a kid, it had Rowdy Roddy Piper!!!
 
Brainfreeze

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jaybird88 said:
I loved that movie when I was a kid, it had Rowdy Roddy Piper!!!
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They live... Haha, " just put the glasses on "!!

Except this is real life... and the ultimate goal isn't destroying a tv station, it's destroying lucifer and his devices ...

good book " behold a pale white horse " Bill Cooper
 
Brainfreeze

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Ugly said:
As long as Christians are too busy focusing on the Illuminati they don't have time to blame Satan or spend time preaching the Gospel. Too busy uncovering theoretical boogey-man organizations to keep their eyes on the scriptures and God. It's a great Satanic ploy, actually.
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The thing is, we can't see satan, this stuff is visible to the eye, that's where people start with what the flesh recognizes. It's physical, satan operates in the physical world through his mediums and devices. This is what led me closer to Christ, seeing this stuff for myself and with my own two eyes. My words might not be enough to some, they have to search it out and figure it for themselves, it can become a bit of a distraction once conscience but, hey... Whatever works,
 
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JustinFromTwinCities

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AuphirahQueen said:
There is a movie I watched last week called : They Live a powerful movie about today's society and this movie is from 1988.
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haha, ya I saw that movie by chance earlier this year. It was really good as far as movies go
 
ThomistColin

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Human said:
The Illuminati were a Bavarian sect committed to the enlightenment, a movement against dogmatism and ignorance that focused on the progression of science, the non-metaphysical furtherance of human morality and education. They opposed superstition, church rule and abuse of government power, and upheld egalitarian ideals and social equality.

They're the historical equivalent of modern, moral secular humanists, a group to which corrupt bankers, corrupt politicians, fraudsters and shysters do not belong.
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Do not forget they were extremists and extremely militant. Which is why the core leaders were arrested and many of those were executed.
 
breno785au

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For a secret society they're not too good at being secret.
 
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