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Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey was released a little under a year before man landed on the moon. It was a rather expensive movie, one with state of the art special/visual effects. How, in less than one year, was NASA able to improve filming technology to unprecedented levels where they could fake a moon landing? It's not possible. Besides, film technology and space technology are two very different things. The man addressed many of the problems with the conspiracy.
Lol well firstly you are assuming that the technology used in faking the moon landing had to be greater than in 2001: A Space Odyssey. My point is that they would not need technology greater than that to fake the moon landing, in fact, one could pull it off with the same or even much worse technology even as simple as using wires. I think the man in the video is making a classic strawman argument.
 
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the article doesn't say that. it says hundreds of rocks were given out by the state dept. in the 1970's -- but this doddering old man claimed to have received this in 1969. no one ever confirmed a rock was given to a half-blind, half-deaf man in his 80's who was no longer an employee of the Dutch government a mere 3 months after the first moon mission.

try reading it again -- the words that are actually there, not the ones you want to be there :)
Nice try. Lol do you work for NASA or something?

Excerpt from article:

"The museum acquired the rock after the death of former Prime Minister Willem Drees in 1988. Drees received it as a private gift on Oct. 9, 1969, from then-U.S. ambassador J. William Middendorf during a visit by the three Apollo 11 astronauts, part of their "Giant Leap" goodwill tour after the first moon landing."
 
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Lol well firstly you are assuming that the technology used in faking the moon landing had to be greater than in 2001: A Space Odyssey. My point is that they would not need technology greater than that to fake the moon landing, in fact, one could pull it off with the same or even much worse technology even as simple as using wires. I think the man in the video is making a classic strawman argument.
I know strawman arguments and that man didn't make one. I'm not debating that they couldn't fake the moon landing. I'm debating the fact that they could make it look realistic. Stanley Kubrick's movie is enjoyable (well, the last half), but it certainly doesn't look real. That's the difference I'm talking about. You couldn't fake the moon landing in a studio, back in 1969. It just wasn't possible.
 
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I know strawman arguments and that man didn't make one. I'm not debating that they couldn't fake the moon landing. I'm debating the fact that they could make it look realistic. Stanley Kubrick's movie is enjoyable (well, the last half), but it certainly doesn't look real. That's the difference I'm talking about. You couldn't fake the moon landing in a studio, back in 1969. It just wasn't possible.
Well then it would be a strawman argument that they'd need such and such technology in order to fake the moon landing when in fact they do not need it or even much technology at all. That is why it is a strawman argument because the premise of advanced movie technology is not necessary to fake the moon landing.

As for your argument that it looks realistic, lol, to me it looks very fake and cheap, like unto those old movies such as Planet of the Apes. Added on to the anomalies, the mess ups, and NASA's reputation for being dubious and liars and faking pictures in today's time only lends support to my point that the moon landing is a hoax, and indeed not just the moon landing.

NASA can't be trusted Tintin. Quite frankly, I am kind of surpised you of all the people on here have not perceived this given that you have perceived past the other common lies of science falsely so-called such as old earth mythology (which you will find relies in part on the space lies.)
 
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I don't mind the topic change. It all goes together anyways.
I never believed we went to the moon myself.
I think we had the technology to fake the landing, I think we've had it a long time. Just because Hollywood didn't use it doesn't mean it wasn't used. (NASA) I saw the movie Interstellar and in it they said we faked the landings to bankrupt Russia in a race to the moon. We would definitely do something like that lol. Even in the 60's. Watch videos of Buzz and his 'handler' during his late year interviews. (I'll try to find the vid)
I'm still curious how some say we couldn't fake landings but we somehow had tech that allowed the feed from the moon to be live....

In WildHeretic's articles its said that as per human nature... IF we went to the moon, we never came back. One.. Its impossible.. Two.. We'd rape the moon for whatever resource we could get from it. I still don't think we've ever been. But if we made it, we're still there.
 
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iConflicted

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Read also "Debunking Relativity"

Science is falling. The scientific dogmas are fading. The religion of science is dying.
 
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The sun the moon Mars etc.. Are all spheres as the earth is too.

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The sun the moon Mars etc.. Are all spheres as the earth is too.

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interesting the last part mentions stretching out the heavens so others can live in huh.. Wanted to know about life out there.
 
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But does circle mean a ball, or a flat circle? A concave circle? Which circle seems plausible with a firmament? Do we have a solid firmament? The meaning of firmament seems to imply a solid of sorts.
If not a solid, explain how it separates the waters above from waters below?

Oh and watch this. Curious.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGdhdZH7T7k

Idk why it's not clickable
 
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:) sometimes edisontrent lol

Im just happy to be a lover of say a rose...

Just a poetic writer on how the dew captures the light upon that petal

And I write the beauty of what I see.

Lol Edisontrent

I guess my dear friend what Im saying is

I like being the viewer lol of Gods gifts

I dont think Id liked a career as a Botanical researcher lol

For they are required to dissect the contents of a flower.

I just love looking at the beauty of one :)
 
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interesting the last part mentions stretching out the heavens so others can live in huh.. Wanted to know about life out there.
I myself read that as our solid sky xD we live within the tent that is Earth under and the firmament above. Our horizon doesn't mean Earth ends, rounds down or curves up, its merely a trick of light.

I want to know what Earth REALLY looks like from space... But God didn't give me wings.
 
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In the wilderness when Satan tempted Jesus, he brought him to a high mountain and showed Jesus ALL the kingdoms of the Earth. That isn't possible on a ball...

Matthew 4:8
Luke 4:5
 
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I myself read that as our solid sky xD we live within the tent that is Earth under and the firmament above. Our horizon doesn't mean Earth ends, rounds down or curves up, its merely a trick of light.

I want to know what Earth REALLY looks like from space... But God didn't give me wings.
scripture says stretching out the Heavens
 
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I myself read that as our solid sky xD we live within the tent that is Earth under and the firmament above. Our horizon doesn't mean Earth ends, rounds down or curves up, its merely a trick of light.

I want to know what Earth REALLY looks like from space... But God didn't give me wings.
Theres a live feed from the international space station above the earth, of coarse one would have to believe there is one.
 
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In the wilderness when Satan tempted Jesus, he brought him to a high mountain and showed Jesus ALL the kingdoms of the Earth. That isn't possible on a ball...

Matthew 4:8
Luke 4:5
indeed though the mountain wasn't a fiscal mountain as we know it. Was a spiritual mountain.
 
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iConflicted

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scripture says stretching out the Heavens
indeed though the mountain wasn't a fiscal mountain as we know it. Was a spiritual mountain.
So you interpret the highest mountain to mean a spiritual one. It you play with that Scripture, why does stretch out the heavens have to be literal?
 
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But does circle mean a ball, or a flat circle? A concave circle? Which circle seems plausible with a firmament? Do we have a solid firmament? The meaning of firmament seems to imply a solid of sorts.
If not a solid, explain how it separates the waters above from waters below?

Oh and watch this. Curious.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vGdhdZH7T7k

Idk why it's not clickable
My opinion the water above is the ice crystals and moons like Europa planets etc. in space, water below is the oceans and lakes etc. on earth. I'm out there indeed hehe...
 
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So you interpret the highest mountain to mean a spiritual one. It you play with that Scripture, why does stretch out the heavens have to be literal?
Because Satan is in the spiritual world