Why I'm getting the vaccine.

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mindfulzen said:
No, it was pretty clear from my end. An old man, considering it, while being in a risk category, so I gave him earthly advice regarding his choice of drug. Despite not taking it myself. How much more openminded can I be? Never doubted OP. I asked another one to clarify why he asked me questions, he would not answer, and do not get answers as a result.
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Somebody weighing the pros and cons of options based on information available (albeit conflicting) and how relevant it is to their situation does not necessarily equate to anyone choosing for out of fear... if you were to say people choose against out of fear, would it be true?
 
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JohnDB said:
I haven't heard of Jannsen.
And I'm not exactly sure which country you are in either.

I'm not denigrating any of the Vaccines...just relating what I have seen from reading.
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JohnDB said:
I haven't heard of Jannsen.
And I'm not exactly sure which country you are in either.

I'm not denigrating any of the Vaccines...just relating what I have seen from reading.
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Check your cdc website then. Or FDA.. Possibly jansen without double N, which anyways eems illogival. Why are you asking for my location? Why would I give it?I can, but tell me why. You cannot identify me anyways. Cannot destroy me if you think that. I have VPN, and you cannot destroy anything. Do not have a job. .
 
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mindfulzen said:
You cannot reach anybody with this lingo. Can only reject others if you want to reach others. Mkay, so they was antivaxx so what? They got a virus, what does it say about their position? Nothing. Their reasons stands, and you have not adressed them.
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I would say their position changed based on their personal experience of getting the disease. Perhaps they bought into the rhetoric of how the virus does not exist and/or it is no worse than a cold or the flu, and then found out it was quite a bit more serious than some would have you believe.
 
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Magenta said:
Somebody weighing the pros and cons of options based on information available (albeit conflicting) and how relevant it is to their situation does not necessarily equate to anyone choosing for out of fear... if you were to say people choose against out of fear, would it be true?
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Fear of the virus and death obviously Understandable
 
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mindfulzen said:
Check your cdc website then. Or FDA.. Possibly jansen without double N, which anyways eems illogival. Why are you asking for my location? Why would I give it?I can, but tell me why. You cannot identify me anyways. Cannot destroy me if you think that. I have VPN, and you cannot destroy anything. Do not have a job. .
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All government agencies can be trusted. I take comfort in knowing that. lol

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Magenta said:
We have no reason to fear death. Making wise choices in how to live is something different...


John 11:25-26
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Why this comment to me? I say it is understandable, I do not fear death.- As stated 20 times here, So spam to me
 
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mindfulzen said:
Check your cdc website then. Or FDA.. Possibly jansen without double N, which anyways eems illogival. Why are you asking for my location? Why would I give it?I can, but tell me why. You cannot identify me anyways. Cannot destroy me if you think that. I have VPN, and you cannot destroy anything. Do not have a job. .
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I was asking for your country...there's a LOT of countries that have access to this forum that speak, read, and write English... possibly as a second language but several of them have it as primary.

Dude!
You gotta relax...
I'm not that tech savvy with software...
Hardware...yes I very much am. (Electrician by trade)

My programming skills are at least 35 years out of date.
 
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Magenta said:
I would say their position changed based on their personal experience of getting the disease. Perhaps they bought into the rhetoric of how the virus does not exist and/or it is no worse than a cold or the flu, and then found out it was quite a bit more serious than some would have you believe.
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I would agree with that and that some people are changing their minds.
Especially when doctor bills and lost wages are somewhere to the tune of $10,000-$20,000 when getting sick versus a relatively free vaccination. (And that's just the copays and deductables)
 
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JohnDB said:
I was asking for your country...there's a LOT of countries that have access to this forum that speak, read, and write English... possibly as a second language but several of them have it as primary.

Dude!
You gotta relax...
I'm not that tech savvy with software...
Hardware...yes I very much am. (Electrician by trade)

My programming skills are at least 35 years out of date.
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OK, I told you area, scandinavia, with the same options, so why do you need my location? Apart from telling my social media that I wrongthink? Is that not enough for the discussion?
 
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mindfulzen said:
OK, I told you area, scandinavia, with the same options, so why do you need my location? Apart from telling my social media that I wrongthink? Is that not enough for the discussion?
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Perfectly sufficient.
I know nothing about what's going on there. I only know what I see here in America.
The difference between the two mRNA vaccines is about 10% effectiveness.

The AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine today had a news story about how after 6 months it was the same ineffectiveness as the Pfizer mRNA vaccine...but they said nothing about the Moderna mRNA vaccine or their new variant vaccines. (Looking like a case of "we just as good")

I am not saying that you are wrong...I don't know enough about what is happening in Europe to have a clue.

You good?
 
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JohnDB said:
Perfectly sufficient.
I know nothing about what's going on there. I only know what I see here in America.
The difference between the two mRNA vaccines is about 10% effectiveness.

The AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine today had a news story about how after 6 months it was the same ineffectiveness as the Pfizer mRNA vaccine...but they said nothing about the Moderna mRNA vaccine or their new variant vaccines. (Looking like a case of "we just as good")

I am not saying that you are wrong...I don't know enough about what is happening in Europe to have a clue.

You good?
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Mkay. Do not care anyways since I do not have social media accounts. Just a point. You just state what I stated, phizer more ffective shortterm, and most longterm, but not much difference longterm. I do not know, this is what I am told. Convey a message, not an opinion, for those unclear,. From the authorites.
 
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Mkay. Do not care anyways since I do not have social media accounts. Just a point. You just state what I stated, phizer more ffective shortterm, and most longterm, but not much difference longterm. I do not know, this is what I am told. Convey a message, not an opinion, for those unclear,. From the authorites.
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https://investors.modernatx.com/new...ounces-new-study-showing-its-covid-19-vaccine


https://www.yahoo.com/news/double-jabbed-people-carry-same-140126657.html

The two articles...
 
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mindfulzen said:
As expected. You did not seek the source, so not wasting my time for you. Thank you, we are done now. Please leave his thread alone, even if I do not agree with him, he has a message to people, and we should let it go on without us going nowhere in a pointless exchange. Till next time, remember that your comment does not work. And you will have to genuinly make an individual comment saying something, and state why you ask for source. Time is money. I may waste it for me, but not for you, got better things to spend it on, like rubbing my belly, and shaving my chest and soaking my elbows in avacadolotion.
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Thank you
 
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HisKid said:
I'm still wondering why the OP is announcing they are taking the injection. Does he want someone to talk him out of it? That's my take on it.
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I think it is one of those things where you are not sure but sharing your decision helps you feel better about doing it. He may be looking for people to agree and encourage his choice. Or maybe to discourage. We all are looking at the data, research, and expert opinions to try and make an educated choice for our personal health. It is hard to do with so much misinformation, unknown, lack of research, and experts who disagree.
 
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My in-laws WERE avid and rabid antivaxxers...
Then they got the Delta Variant from their Daughter-in-law...

MIL got the antibody cocktail (which is poison) and after a few days is feeling much better. FIL didn't...he is slowly trying to wean himself off oxygen.... he's still at around a half litre...got a long way to go yet.

Eventually they will be able to have enough bandwidth to test his lungs and kidneys to assess the damages he has sustained. Not sure yet if he will be able to return to work. (Aircraft mechanic working for Prittney).

But they decided that they will get the vaccine once they get past this... mostly because their daughter got the vaccine but never got sick at all...not even a sniffle.

Vaccines are vaccines...they aren't poison. Antibody treatments and chemotherapy for cancers are poison... deliberately poisoning people to kill something that otherwise would kill you.

Cancer is DNA changes...that's why it kills you.
Viruses change your DNA....that's why they make you sick and can kill you.

RNA is not DNA....RNA is what decides which DNA to read and how to read it.

And God has sent his people special people to overcome challenges many many times in the past. Whose to say that God didn't send us the people who developed the mRNA vaccines to save us? That would be like claiming Elijah was just a silly bald old man...they did that too until the bears got hungry.
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Elisha :)
 
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Elisha :)
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I thought that it was Elijah with the bears...he was pretty handy with calling fire down from the sky...but it's been years since I read the passages about the two.
You might be right.
I remember it was a bunch of juvenile delinquents and his head was shaved for Nazarite vows...

I'll have to read Kings again to refresh my memory. *Sigh*
 
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JohnDB said:
I thought that it was Elijah with the bears...he was pretty handy with calling fire down from the sky...but it's been years since I read the passages about the two.
You might be right.
I remember it was a bunch of juvenile delinquents and his head was shaved for Nazarite vows...

I'll have to read Kings again to refresh my memory. *Sigh*
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Lol, always a good read!
God bless!
 
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mindfulzen said:
Why this comment to me? I say it is understandable, I do not fear death.- As stated 20 times here, So spam to me
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You say fear of death is understandable, but agree we have nothing to fear when I claim it, them accuse me of spamming you because I have responded to you? I am not sure why you are so upset.
 
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