Your thoughts on chem trails?

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Rudimental

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For the unknowing, a high-flying jet leaving a condensation trail (contrail) According to the chemtrail conspiracy theory, long-lasting trails left in the sky by high-flying aircraft are chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed for sinister purposes undisclosed to the general public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

Is this a whack job conspiracy theory or is there some legitimacy in it?
 
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Do you fly? The winds aloft are nowhere predictable enough for something like that to work. Contrails are generally around 40,000 feet up there, with several layers of winds moving at different speeds and varying directions between them and the ground.
 

eternallife7

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All I know is I put hot sause on them and wash them down with orange juice! Lol
 

eternallife7

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I don't actually eat them I just have the enemy under my feet.
 
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dalconn

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I think.....well, second thought I'm gonna let it go :p
 

breno785au

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Have they been able to identify where exactly these chemicals are being released from on a plane?
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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For the unknowing, a high-flying jet leaving a condensation trail (contrail) According to the chemtrail conspiracy theory, long-lasting trails left in the sky by high-flying aircraft are chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed for sinister purposes undisclosed to the general public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

Is this a whack job conspiracy theory or is there some legitimacy in it?
the first option...
 

Dude653

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Its a mind control drug designed by aliens from a planet of homosexual werewolves
 

RickyZ

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It is a chemtrail. the chemicals being dispersed are those created by the burning of carbon fossil fuels. Just like your car, except way up high where they freeze and you can see 'em.
 
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Rudimental

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So... Is this a whack job conspiracy theory or is there some legitimacy in it?
 

RickyZ

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It's a whack job conspiracy about something with legitimacy to it.
 

Dude653

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Its exhaust from the jet fuel. Nothing more. Only a paranoid lunatic believes otherwise. Since the invention of internet, America has become gradually more and more susceptible to brain washing...
 

T_Laurich

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May I ask a question... What's the difference between Jet Exhaust, and old Propeller plane exhausts?
Answer: They use the same fuel... Just different methods of combustion. So nothing.

So let me ask you another question. Whats the difference between Jet Exhaust and Helicopter Exhaust?
Answer: Nothing, many helicopters even use the exact same engines found in jets.


Last question... If the contrail are caused by the sulfur in the exhaust combining with water from combustion and freezing in the cold air... Then why is it when Helicopters fly in the same weather we do not see these "con trails" produce as in jet aircraft.

If your answer relies with the propeller, I should note that the jet wash and airflow that a jet creates is comparable to the down-force of the helicopter. And even so we should at least see a fog under the helicopter.
And if you are to say that a helicopter cannot possibly fly in such conditions, I have videos of them reaching the summit of MT Everest. and flying in other such conditions. (Temperatures which the internet say are impossible to fly in and temps that contrails should form in.)
 
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Rudimental

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Last question... If the contrail are caused by the sulfur in the exhaust combining with water from combustion and freezing in the cold air... Then why is it when Helicopters fly in the same weather we do not see these "con trails" produce as in jet aircraft.
Well millions of helicopters don't fly over and all around the world everyday/year enough to merit using helicopters to do the bioengineering with.

I don't think there is any real difference you would notice in contaminated jet fuels or not anyway. I'm not expert on the matter but I don't think there would be. A contrail's form is not produced by whats burned in the fuel but rather the speed, temperature and engine type that its output from. That's what I think anyway.

But thanks for your reply anyway. So far, one of the most intelligent replies in this thread I've seen so far with the exception of Ricky.

Sure the world is getting more susceptible to brain washing since the creation of the Internet. But why are those that know nothing about it so quick to brush it off as whack job conspiracy? What is it about it that is really so far fetched to believe??

Don't you know that there have been things like this in the past that HAVE been true? What people first thought was nothing but a whack job conspiracy theory that only actually turned out to be TRUE?

Here's a few to bring you up to speed https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=t...x-rJAhXMORoKHUC2Dp8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1920&bih=978

I actually think there is some plausibility in this one. Just like the fluoride in tap water one. You might ask, but where from production to plane, from treatment to tap is it being entered? Surely they would get caught right?? I mean, these types of things have high security on them don't they? To actually prevent this from happening in the first place?

But still. Its not one as simple as one that you can just brush off as madness. Some people can't accept the truth because the truth is too outrageous to accept.
 
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Most helicopters fly at a maximum of 10,000 feet. The best a powerful turbine helicopter can reach is 25,000 feet. Contrails don't show up until about 40,000 feet
 

RickyZ

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May I ask a question... What's the difference between Jet Exhaust, and old Propeller plane exhausts?
Answer: They use the same fuel... Just different methods of combustion. So nothing.

So let me ask you another question. Whats the difference between Jet Exhaust and Helicopter Exhaust?
Answer: Nothing, many helicopters even use the exact same engines found in jets.


Last question... If the contrail are caused by the sulfur in the exhaust combining with water from combustion and freezing in the cold air... Then why is it when Helicopters fly in the same weather we do not see these "con trails" produce as in jet aircraft.

If your answer relies with the propeller, I should note that the jet wash and airflow that a jet creates is comparable to the down-force of the helicopter. And even so we should at least see a fog under the helicopter.
And if you are to say that a helicopter cannot possibly fly in such conditions, I have videos of them reaching the summit of MT Everest. and flying in other such conditions. (Temperatures which the internet say are impossible to fly in and temps that contrails should form in.)
Actually, except for turboprops, propeller aircraft burn gasoline, whereas jets burn a form of kerosene.

Most helicopters fly at a maximum of 10,000 feet. The best a powerful turbine helicopter can reach is 25,000 feet. Contrails don't show up until about 40,000 feet
This would be the issue. Contrails are formed at high altitude where the air is much much colder. Helicopters and most propeller driven craft cannot reach those altitudes. But even though you don't see it, you still get a carbon bath from them.
 
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Rudimental

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Actually, except for turboprops, propeller aircraft burn gasoline, whereas jets burn a form of kerosene.

This would be the issue. Contrails are formed at high altitude where the air is much much colder. Helicopters and most propeller driven craft cannot reach those altitudes. But even though you don't see it, you still get a carbon bath from them.
True but who cares! The question is about aeroplanes being used not helicopters anyway so don't eve know what he's talking about helicopters for.
 

RickyZ

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Just answering a question and correcting some misunderstandings