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Yea, the first beast is the anti christ, the second is the false prophet. The anti christ makes war with the saints tomake up the false trinity, satan the devil acts as the Father, anti christ as the false christ and the false prophet acting as the holy sprit
Why you talk about trinity? it is not part of our OP
Biblically the the anti-christ is same to false prophet killing the saints, the false prophet cannot act as the holy spirit because he is not originally spirit. Contrary what you said, the book of Revelation says each of evil got its bad spirit..."Then I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet".-Revelation 16:13, This is the trinity of the devil!


Bakit ayaw mo maniwala sa sinasabi ng Bibliya na ang Beast ay patungkol yan sa KINGDOM at hindi sa isang tao???
Again to say, Bakit ayaw mo maniwala sa sinasabi ng Bibliya na ang Beast ay simbolo yan sa KINGDOM at hindi simbolo ng isang tao???
 
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Hmm. The russian prowess could do that as well. Signs and wonders can only be attributed to the workings of the devil as he will use the false prophet to deceive people and may force evryone to worship the 1st beast
I gamble, no one longer can show a miraculous power a fire that came from heaven to decieve anybody. Seems you still in the fairytales, is just only happened in OT by only by divine prophets, and the servants of evil cannot do that like raising the dead. All forms and representations in the book of Revelations are just all figuratives. Russia never yet tested their weapons of superpower in history, but USA did in Japan!
 
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P.S.
How could you explain Image of the Beast? What is your interpretation?
 
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Yea, the first beast is the anti christ, the second is the false prophet. The anti christ makes war with the saints tomake up the false trinity, satan the devil acts as the Father, anti christ as the false christ and the false prophet acting as the holy sprit
fredoheaven bakit ayaw nyo maniwala sa sinasabi ng Bibliya na ang Beast ay patungkol yan sa KAHARIAN AT ANG NAMUMUNO NITO at hindi lang tumutukoy na particular isang tao??
Again to say, Bakit ayaw mo maniwala sa sinasabi ng Bibliya na ang Beast na simbolo ng KAHARIAN AT ANG NAMUMUNO NITO at hindi lang tumutukoy na particular isang tao??


Now talking about the Second Beast and the False Prophet probably they are one, this kingdom/nation(2nd beast) is a professing christian/religious nation will be realized after the rapture. The 2nd Beast is both a kingdom and religious figure. This False Prophet in the very last days will be the religious system substitute of the Whore(Vatican/RCC), since America is known for a source of many christian religious sect, because the Whore is already rejected by this 10 kings(UE), read Revelation 17:16.
 
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While some had identified to extend that this false prophet may come from the Roman See. Chuck Porrit has an interesting view as he dissects the scriptures proving that the 2nd Beast may come from Rome. Even Alberto Rivera (if you know him) believed that it will the Roman Church that would arise the second Beast.

http://www.secondtree.net/2_prophec...MItNr8jL2-2wIVhoWPCh359gViEAAYAiAAEgL94fD_BwE

Anyway may I know why you now supported the Am-Brit Beast?

Thanks,
The 2nd Beast probably will not be coming from Rome, the 1st Beast itself is the Rome/Vatican as the Holy Roman Empire to the extend and the Whore riding the 1st Beast represents the Vatican/RCC.
The 2nd Beast as a False Prophet will not be coming from Rome neither a Papacy, because the Ten Horns of the revived Roman Empire(the EU) will arleady reject the Whore. Read
Revelation 17:16.
 
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#66
Just for clarification. Let me correct my previous post which I said that the 1st Beast and False Prophet are one killing the saints.
The False Prophet is not related of killing of the saints of the 1st Beast.
 
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Here is also an interesting article from Got your Question?
Question: "Who is the false prophet of the end times?"


Answer: The false prophet of the end times is described in Revelation 13:11-15. He is also referred to as the “second beast” (Revelation 16:13, 19:20, 20:10). Together with the Antichrist and Satan, who empowers both of them, the false prophet is the third party in the unholy trinity.

The apostle John describes this person and gives us clues to identifying him when he shows up. First, he comes out of the earth. This could mean he comes up from the pit of hell with all the demonic powers of hell at his command. It could also mean he comes from lowly circumstances, secret and unknown until he bursts on the world stage at the right hand of the Antichrist. He is depicted as having horns like a lamb, while speaking like a dragon. The horns on lambs are merely small bumps on their heads until the lamb grows into a ram. Rather than having the Antichrist’s multiplicity of heads and horns, showing his power and might and fierceness, the false prophet comes like a lamb, winsomely, with persuasive words that elicit sympathy and good will from others. He may be an extraordinary preacher or orator whose demonically empowered words will deceive the multitudes. But he speaks like a dragon, which means his message is the message of a dragon. Revelation 12:9identifies the dragon as the devil and Satan.

Verse 12 gives us the false prophet’s mission on earth, which is to force humanity to worship the Antichrist. He has all the authority of the Antichrist because, like him, the false prophet is empowered by Satan. It is not clear whether people are forced to worship the Antichrist or whether they are so enamored of these powerful beings that they fall for the deception and worship him willingly. The fact that the second beast uses miraculous signs and wonders, including fire from heaven, to establish the credibility of both of them would seem to indicate that people will fall before them in adoration of their power and message. Verse 14 goes on to say the deception will be so great that the people will set up an idol to the Antichrist, "the image of the beast," and worship it. This is reminiscent of the huge golden image of Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 3) before which all were to bow down and pay homage. Revelation 14:9-11, however, describes the ghastly fate that awaits those who worship the image of the Antichrist.

Those who survive the terrors of the tribulation to this point will be faced with two hard choices. Those who refuse to worship the image of the beast will be subject to death (Revelation 14:15), but those who do worship him will incur the wrath of God. The image will be extraordinary in that it will be able to “speak.” Whatever the image is (a statue? a hologram? an android? a human-animal hybrid? a clone?), it will have some kind of ability to breathe forth the message of the Antichrist and the false prophet. Along with being the spokesman for them, the image will condemn to death those who refuse to worship the unholy pair. In our technological world, it is not hard to imagine such a scenario.

Whoever the false prophet turns out to be, the final world deception and the final apostasy will be great, and the whole world will be caught up in it. The deceivers and false teachers we see today are the forerunners of the Antichrist and the false prophet, and we must not be deceived by them. These false teachers abound, and they are moving us toward a final satanic kingdom. We must faithfully proclaim the saving gospel of Jesus Christ and rescue the souls of men and women from the coming disaster.
I do not believe that the Image of the Beast will be an erected statue or a hologram, an android or human-animal hybrid a clone. The statement that the 2nd Beast will give life to the image to be understand literally is something absurd for the book of Revelation that portrays a figurative visions. Another thing, how can you put up an statue of a Beast that represents a kingdom?
 
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Yea, the first beast is the anti christ, the second is the false prophet. The anti christ makes war with the saints tomake up the false trinity, satan the devil acts as the Father, anti christ as the false christ and the false prophet acting as the holy sprit
The 1st Beast is represented by the anti-christ, the 2nd Beast is represented by False Prophet, and the Whore represented by Papacy.
 
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Hmm. The russian prowess could do that as well. Signs and wonders can only be attributed to the workings of the devil as he will use the false prophet to deceive people and may force evryone to worship the 1st beast
I gamble, no one can no longer will show a miraculous power a fire that came from heaven to decieve anybody. Seems you still in the fairytales of old, is just only happened in OT by divine prophets and the servant cannot do such thing. It's like raising the dead.
All forms and representations in the book of Revelations are just all figuratives. Russia never yet tested their weapons of superpower in history, but USA did in Japan!
 
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Some samples of video, to explain the Second Beast represents a nation or kingdom, and it is pertaining to US.
Though I may not agree all it says, just only to emphasize that all prophetic beast written in the Bible symbolize a nation or kingdom.


 
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Some samples of video, to explain the Second Beast represents a nation or kingdom, and it is pertaining to US.
Though I may not agree all it says, just only to emphasize that all prophetic beast written in the Bible symbolize a nation or kingdom, not individual person.


 
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And who has the right to receive the birthright?
The eldest has the right to receive the Birthright but sometimes by God's favor.
In the Bible record, the last who received the Birthright were the sons of Joseph, Ephraim and Manasseh. They belong from the Northern Kingdom known as the Kingdom of Israel, while the Kingdom of Judah
(the present day Jews) did not received this blessings from Jacob.