Senator Pacquiao a born again christian but turns into a professing christian.

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Senator Pacquiao of the Philippines a born again christian but turns into a professing christian.
 
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Senator Pacquiao of the Philippines a born again christian but turns into a professing christian. He use his senate seat to be a devil's advocate.
 

fredoheaven

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Senator Pacquiao of the Philippines a born again christian but turns into a professing christian. He use his senate seat to be a devil's advocate.
Bakit po naman, sabi ninyo born again, tapos professing christian, which is which?

Thank you po
 
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Bakit po naman, sabi ninyo born again, tapos professing christian, which is which?

Thank you po
Akala ko nga noon matino siya na born-again christian, pero ngayon ang tingin ko sa kanya ay isang HUWAD na born again. Kung hindi siya huwad, siya ay nawala sa landas kulang ng guidance sa Holy Spirit.
 

fredoheaven

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Akala ko nga noon matino siya na born-again christian, pero ngayon ang tingin ko sa kanya ay isang HUWAD na born again. Kung hindi siya huwad, siya ay nawala sa landas kulang ng guidance sa Holy Spirit.
So that you are not yet sure. Alam ko ang born again ay possessing Christian because Christ is in him, professing naman ay do totoo na mananampalataya and that is my point. Now considering yung pong underline ko, eh as sir Mar says "Why do you say that?" The questions beg a proof not just sa "...tingin ko". Do you know some instances why he is professing christian? Would you provide us evidences just for a truth?

Salamat po.
 
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So that you are not yet sure. Alam ko ang born again ay possessing Christian because Christ is in him, professing naman ay do totoo na mananampalataya and that is my point. Now considering yung pong underline ko, eh as sir Mar says "Why do you say that?" The questions beg a proof not just sa "...tingin ko". Do you know some instances why he is professing christian? Would you provide us evidences just for a truth?

Salamat po.
PACQUIAO IS NO LONGER SIDING THE TRUTH, HERE'S THE PROOF...

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/19/16/pacquiao-moves-to-unseat-de-lima-as-committee-chair

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/928967...ao-defended-paolo-for-having-photos-with-dong
 

fredoheaven

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There are many kinds of proof, it is also an evidence gathered from the news...
Then this not merit your claimed for gong to a 3rd/4th hand evidence, seems too weak. In a court case, it should have been filed a "demurrer to evidence" due to lacking of evidence and technicalities.

God bless you kabayan
 
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Then this not merit your claimed for gong to a 3rd/4th hand evidence, seems too weak. In a court case, it should have been filed a "demurrer to evidence" due to lacking of evidence and technicalities.

God bless you kabayan
fredoheaven ni-review ko yong mga replies mo sa post ko, nakita ko may mali sa pag-intindi mo sa message ko o may pagkalito ang tanong mo . Kasi ang sabi ko, akala ko noon si Pacquiao ay matinong born again Christian, at yon ang “tingin ko” kay Pacquiao na akala ko matino siya, samantala sigurado ako ngayon na professing Christian siya dahil hindi naging matuwid sa ginagawa niya sa Senado kagaya na ipinakita ko na news. Tatanongin kita batay sa news info kung tama ba o mali ang ginawa ni Pacquaio. Itong mga tanong: 1.) Tama ba ang ginawa ni Pacquaio na pinaalis sa pwesto si Sen.De Lima sa justice committee dahil lang sa pag-imbestiga sa extra judicial killings? 2.) .) Tama ba ang ginawa ni Pacquaio bilang senador na agad nag-aabogado siya kay Paolo Duterte habang nagsimula pa lang sa senate investigation ang corruption and smuggling activities sa BOC?

So, what I am portraying here is the actions of Pacquiao that made him unchristian, his doings is the evidence. His actions/doings is contrary to the word of God…” Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly” - Leviticus 19:15
 

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Evidence please... that's no proof, it's only a news info IMHO.
halata namang troll ng oposisyon itong taong ito. ang kapal nga ng mukha na porket di ko kapareho ng pulitikal na paniniwala eh gamitan ako ng juan 8:44.

siguro kahit suntukin ko ito sa mukha eh baka ako pa masaktan dahil sa sobrang tigas nito.

huwag mo na kausapin yan bro. naghahanap ng kakampi para sa misyon nilang patalsikin si Duterte. (unless anti Duterte ka talaga)

palibhasi kasi hindi marunong tumanggap ng pagkatalo ang oposisyon at feeling nila sila may ari ng Pilipinas na hindi puwede ang iba ang mamuno kundi sila.
 
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halata namang troll ng oposisyon itong taong ito. ang kapal nga ng mukha na porket di ko kapareho ng pulitikal na paniniwala eh gamitan ako ng juan 8:44.

siguro kahit suntukin ko ito sa mukha eh baka ako pa masaktan dahil sa sobrang tigas nito.

huwag mo na kausapin yan bro. naghahanap ng kakampi para sa misyon nilang patalsikin si Duterte. (unless anti Duterte ka talaga)

palibhasi kasi hindi marunong tumanggap ng pagkatalo ang oposisyon at feeling nila sila may ari ng Pilipinas na hindi puwede ang iba ang mamuno kundi sila.
mas ang kapal mo, pati bansang US na tinitirhan mo ay sinisiraan mo at nagawa mo pang sabihin na shithole! at tagapagtanggol ka pa ng China kay sa mamayang Pilipino
 
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halata namang troll ng oposisyon itong taong ito. ang kapal nga ng mukha na porket di ko kapareho ng pulitikal na paniniwala eh gamitan ako ng juan 8:44.
alam mo jameen hindi lang para sayo yong juan 8:44 at sa kapwa mong dds, ito ay akma yon sa tatay Digong mo. Ipost natin ulit..."Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
Kung i-paraphrase natin ito, ito ang mangyayari
..."Ye DDS of your father the devil, and the LUST(Malibog) of your father ye will do. He was a MURDERER(Mamatay-tao) from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a LIE, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of FAKE NEWS."

jameen hindi bagay sayo yong Proverbs 22:4 kasi wala kang humility pikon ka agad, siguro nga wala sayo ang humility kasi wala kang fear of the Lord, kasi kinokonsinti mo yong mamatay-tao at idolo mo yong malibog na presidente
 

fredoheaven

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fredoheaven ni-review ko yong mga replies mo sa post ko, nakita ko may mali sa pag-intindi mo sa message ko o may pagkalito ang tanong mo . Kasi ang sabi ko, akala ko noon si Pacquiao ay matinong born again Christian, at yon ang “tingin ko” kay Pacquiao na akala ko matino siya, samantala sigurado ako ngayon na professing Christian siya dahil hindi naging matuwid sa ginagawa niya sa Senado kagaya na ipinakita ko na news. Tatanongin kita batay sa news info kung tama ba o mali ang ginawa ni Pacquaio. Itong mga tanong: 1.) Tama ba ang ginawa ni Pacquaio na pinaalis sa pwesto si Sen.De Lima sa justice committee dahil lang sa pag-imbestiga sa extra judicial killings? 2.) .) Tama ba ang ginawa ni Pacquaio bilang senador na agad nag-aabogado siya kay Paolo Duterte habang nagsimula pa lang sa senate investigation ang corruption and smuggling activities sa BOC?

So, what I am portraying here is the actions of Pacquiao that made him unchristian, his doings is the evidence. His actions/doings is contrary to the word of God…” Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly” - Leviticus 19:15
As far as the OP is concerned you already have the problem theologically to begin with that is why the OP is technically in error. The point is once a person is born again then he can no longer unborn again. It is you who says in the OP that he is “born again” and by implication he is a possessing Christian, now a possessing Christian can no longer be unloose.
Now you are saying, his actions are not well aligned and your evidence is still a moot. You have fallen judgment to his spiritual standing with God. Of course, A real Christian, born again may still commit sin/s but not in any way be denied of his position, possession and standing before God.


If you have some political issues with Mr. Pacqiao, I am not the one to tell you. Another thing, the burden of proof is on you since it was you that says he is a professing Christian di tototo na born again. Look, your evidence is just a link, I have no time to read that. Perhaps it will be helpful if you gave a gist information to the link you provided and that’s all.

One thing more, siguro po pwede pa na sabihin that Mr. Pacquaio has made an unchristian-like though still this is still debatable but not to the point that his actions made him unchristian. That’s a big difference!

I think, mas nakakabuti na maging aware tayo sa mga post natin not passing judgment agad agad dahil ito ay nakakasama sa image ng ating bansa. Stand for the truth just for the truth.

God bless you kabayan..
 
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As far as the OP is concerned you already have the problem theologically to begin with that is why the OP is technically in error. The point is once a person is born again then he can no longer unborn again. It is you who says in the OP that he is “born again” and by implication he is a possessing Christian, now a possessing Christian can no longer be unloose.
Now you are saying, his actions are not well aligned and your evidence is still a moot. You have fallen judgment to his spiritual standing with God. Of course, A real Christian, born again may still commit sin/s but not in any way be denied of his position, possession and standing before God.


If you have some political issues with Mr. Pacqiao, I am not the one to tell you. Another thing, the burden of proof is on you since it was you that says he is a professing Christian di tototo na born again. Look, your evidence is just a link, I have no time to read that. Perhaps it will be helpful if you gave a gist information to the link you provided and that’s all.

One thing more, siguro po pwede pa na sabihin that Mr. Pacquaio has made an unchristian-like though still this is still debatable but not to the point that his actions made him unchristian. That’s a big difference!

I think, mas nakakabuti na maging aware tayo sa mga post natin not passing judgment agad agad dahil ito ay nakakasama sa image ng ating bansa. Stand for the truth just for the truth.

God bless you kabayan..
Sir what is OP?
 

fredoheaven

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Original Post kabayan, anyway taga saan po ba kau d2 Pnas? Saan po kau nag church?

Thanks
 
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As far as the OP is concerned you already have the problem theologically to begin with that is why the OP is technically in error. The point is once a person is born again then he can no longer unborn again. It is you who says in the OP that he is “born again” and by implication he is a possessing Christian, now a possessing Christian can no longer be unloose.
Now you are saying, his actions are not well aligned and your evidence is still a moot. You have fallen judgment to his spiritual standing with God. Of course, A real Christian, born again may still commit sin/s but not in any way be denied of his position, possession and standing before God.


If you have some political issues with Mr. Pacqiao, I am not the one to tell you. Another thing, the burden of proof is on you since it was you that says he is a professing Christian di tototo na born again. Look, your evidence is just a link, I have no time to read that. Perhaps it will be helpful if you gave a gist information to the link you provided and that’s all.

One thing more, siguro po pwede pa na sabihin that Mr. Pacquaio has made an unchristian-like though still this is still debatable but not to the point that his actions made him unchristian. That’s a big difference!

I think, mas nakakabuti na maging aware tayo sa mga post natin not passing judgment agad agad dahil ito ay nakakasama sa image ng ating bansa. Stand for the truth just for the truth.

God bless you kabayan..
Thanks for having time to reply fredoheaven and i got your point. You are right that Christian even having once undergone spiritual renewal still commit sins, kaya nga nasabi ko kung hindi siya(pacquiao) huwad siya'y nawala sa landas o kulang ng guidance sa Holy Spirit. Kaya babalik din kay Pacquiao ang pagiging judgemental niya kay Lascanas na peke raw ang spiritual ni Lascanas. Ito po ang link ang pagkahiprokito ni Pacquiao... http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/06/17/pacquiao-to-lascaas-do-you-understand-spiritual-renewal

fredoheaven kung sino man ang sumira sa image ng bansa, walang iba na gumagawa na kalampasan sa mata ng Diyos at maski na rin sa batas ng kataohan, ang nakakasama kung hinahayaan nating hindi punahin ang kamalian lalo na kaya kung pinagtatakpan, and the most worse of all the one claiming himself a born christian who initiated uncristian-like though as you said.
 

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Thanks for having time to reply fredoheaven and i got your point. You are right that Christian even having once undergone spiritual renewal still commit sins, kaya nga nasabi ko kung hindi siya(pacquiao) huwad siya'y nawala sa landas o kulang ng guidance sa Holy Spirit. Kaya babalik din kay Pacquiao ang pagiging judgemental niya kay Lascanas na peke raw ang spiritual ni Lascanas. Ito po ang link ang pagkahiprokito ni Pacquiao... http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/06/17/pacquiao-to-lascaas-do-you-understand-spiritual-renewal

fredoheaven kung sino man ang sumira sa image ng bansa, walang iba na gumagawa na kalampasan sa mata ng Diyos at maski na rin sa batas ng kataohan, ang nakakasama kung hinahayaan nating hindi punahin ang kamalian lalo na kaya kung pinagtatakpan, and the most worse of all the one claiming himself a born christian who initiated uncristian-like though as you said.
You did get my point?? Umm not really...but you have some story to tell, i even not talking of spiritual renewal. Its about spiritual regeneration, anyway, i could not force you in your political belief but dont also foist it on othes.
 
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You did get my point?? Umm not really...but you have some story to tell, i even not talking of spiritual renewal. Its about spiritual regeneration, anyway, i could not force you in your political belief but dont also foist it on othes.
fredoheaven I knew what you mean, what you are portraying to me is that ONCE YOU SAVE ALWAYS BE SAVE, matagal na akong nasasa dyan. Once you believe and in Christ you are already born again, just simply it is. But the problem this born again Pacquiao , talk about spiritual renewal compare himself to Lascanas and lift up himself then look down Lascanas. What a hypocrisy.

Did I force you or to anybody?? I did not force you to believe for what I believe about Pacquiao for his unchristian doings, but it is the duty of the christian to be his brother's keeper and to correct wrong doers.