Should I resent God that I was born in the Philippines?

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jameen

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Because the Philippines is a poor nation because it is rife with crimes, illegal drugs, political divisions, colonial mentality, crab mentality and political corruption.

I wish that I was born in a progressive countries such as Japan, France or the US.

It is misfortune to me that I was not born in a progressive country.
 

Waggles

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Salvation is not dependent on worldly wealth.
And progressive countries have their many problems too.
In many ways it is harder to preach the gospel of salvation
where people are affluent and think they have no need for
God's provision.


But all is not lost - in the Philippines there is wonderful Pentecostal revival
where God is providing an abundance of miracles, healings and blessings
to uplift his people; and to help them live better.


https://www.facebook.com/trfphils/

 

Ugly

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Japan has a high suicide rate due to cultural demands. It is infamous for suicide. Not to mention the degradation of women and sexualization of children.
America is divided by race and politics and even has had an increase in violence in general, including murdering police in cold blood. We see headed towards civil war. Not to mention huge numbers of students go hungry, middle class kids.
I don't follow France because, well, it's France. Bleh.

My point is these other countries may seem wonderful but there a lot more problems than you realize.
 

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Because the Philippines is a poor nation because it is rife with crimes, illegal drugs, political divisions, colonial mentality, crab mentality and political corruption.

I wish that I was born in a progressive countries such as Japan, France or the US.

It is misfortune to me that I was not born in a progressive country.
Sometimes what looks like a curse can actually turn out to be a blessing...

If you where born in ""progressive France"" ( as you call it ) the chances are you would have been brought up in a very atheist anti Christian culture and you probably would see no need for God.. But since you where born in the Philippines in a nation where you experience hardships with a history of hardship you where born into a society that feels the need for the help of God oi their lives.. So the material blessing of being born in France would probably have turned out to be a spiritual curse.. While the material curse of being born in the Philippines has turned out to be a spiritual blessing to you..

How long does material blessings last? for a life time..
How long do spiritual blessings last.. Prenatally for eternity if they are held onto..
 

blue_ladybug

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Why resent God? It's not His fault where you were born...
 

jameen

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Sometimes what looks like a curse can actually turn out to be a blessing...

If you where born in ""progressive France"" ( as you call it ) the chances are you would have been brought up in a very atheist anti Christian culture and you probably would see no need for God.. But since you where born in the Philippines in a nation where you experience hardships with a history of hardship you where born into a society that feels the need for the help of God oi their lives.. So the material blessing of being born in France would probably have turned out to be a spiritual curse.. While the material curse of being born in the Philippines has turned out to be a spiritual blessing to you..

How long does material blessings last? for a life time..
How long do spiritual blessings last.. Prenatally for eternity if they are held onto..
Well you can live in an atheistic progressive nation w/o embracing the atheistic/agnostic views of society.

You cannot blame other Western nations for turning their back from God because of the iniquities of some religious preachers.

Some religious sects are really business whose merchandise are members' money using God's name as front.

No wonder why some people lose their faith in God.
 

jameen

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Why resent God? It's not His fault where you were born...
He is the one who formed you into your mother's womb and decide what country where you will born.

It is God's will that you were born in a particular country :)
 

mar09

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Because the Philippines is a poor nation because it is rife with crimes, illegal drugs, political divisions, colonial mentality, crab mentality and political corruption.

I wish that I was born in a progressive countries such as Japan, France or the US.

It is misfortune to me that I was not born in a progressive country.
I will answer your title question that you do not have to resent God for being born here. When i was small and using foreign books in school, oh how i dreamed abt winter spring summer and fall-- and all. but when i had the chance to go abroad, i was like thinking it's more fun in the Philippines, and do not even look fwd to staying long or getting lost in a progressive country that may be too cold or have more turmoil than my own that i did not know abt. I'd rather be lost in Baguio city or some other local place and still feel at home=). While we have many "setbacks," i do know our country is progressing in many other ways. As some are saying here, there are problems of the affluent that you wouldnt want either. Perhaps it is in being content with what God gave.. and contentment is of course a process also where we learn gratefulness and not seeing the grass greener beyond our fence. You can work or visit other countries, but as a local song by Gary V says, Magbabalik ka rin!
 

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He is the one who formed you into your mother's womb and decide what country where you will born.

It is God's will that you were born in a particular country :)
I disagree. Human will is much more evident on Earth. However, God hears the cries of all who suffer and offers them salvation. You have an opportunity to be a light in that darkness. The greater the darkness, the more welcome the light. Shine bright! Be thankful that God has opened your eyes so you may lead others to His Glory.
 

maxwel

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He is the one who formed you into your mother's womb and decide what country where you will born.

It is God's will that you were born in a particular country :)
Jameen,
if that is already your view, then why did you start this thread?

What was your goal?
 
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Hey! Jamen :) kumusta kabayan? :)


Yep! I agree with you about corruption,crimes and others..sad truth but it is happening in my beloved country...and yeah I also agree with you that those countries are wonderful :) but let me share you a little bit from an old lady who works abroad for almost 12 years now...



Jameen, I was born in a place where we used lamp in the night,used firewoods to cook our food and sea sand to brush our teeth :D yep it was really really hard while I was growing up...


We grew up very poor ...lacking in everything but as a child I never imagined leaving my hometown or the Philippines.


But when I was in my 20's seeing the surrounding...I dreamed for a better life for my family...this dream drove me to work abroad...leaving behind my family was hard but I have to because if not my siblings won't be able to go to college... my salary in Philippines was enough only to feed myself...Leaving Philippines was the only option I've got...but I never resented about my country about the people about my life in Philippines... I love my country...the people I will never stop seeing the beauty and how blessed the Philippines is :) I will always be proud that I was born a Filipino... I am always thankful that I am a Filipino :) and in my heart there is no place like home...your beloved homeland and mine..The Philippines ❤
 
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Adstar

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Well you can live in an atheistic progressive nation w/o embracing the atheistic/agnostic views of society.
That's true... But would you have been one of the very small minority that would?

You cannot blame other Western nations for turning their back from God because of the iniquities of some religious preachers.
Agreed...

Some religious sects are really business whose merchandise are members' money using God's name as front.
That's true..

No wonder why some people lose their faith in God.
Well if they have faith in their religious sect and it lets them down and they lose faith in their religious sect then it cannot be said they lost faith in God because their faith was never in God.. It was in their religious sect.. Sadly there are a lot of people like that..
 

jameen

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I will answer your title question that you do not have to resent God for being born here. When i was small and using foreign books in school, oh how i dreamed abt winter spring summer and fall-- and all. but when i had the chance to go abroad, i was like thinking it's more fun in the Philippines, and do not even look fwd to staying long or getting lost in a progressive country that may be too cold or have more turmoil than my own that i did not know abt. I'd rather be lost in Baguio city or some other local place and still feel at home=). While we have many "setbacks," i do know our country is progressing in many other ways. As some are saying here, there are problems of the affluent that you wouldnt want either. Perhaps it is in being content with what God gave.. and contentment is of course a process also where we learn gratefulness and not seeing the grass greener beyond our fence. You can work or visit other countries, but as a local song by Gary V says, Magbabalik ka rin!
I know our country is progressing. in fact it is one of the fastest growing economies. the problem here is the fruits are not well distributed nationwide. in reality a lot of people are struggling in life. a lot of people testify that life is still hard in the country

I myself who came from a middle class family saw how hard life in the Philippines. I saw that it is hard to find job, you cannot save a lot for your future family unlike my Chinese teacher friend who was able to save up to million yuan in the bank to the point that she can buy a nice apartment. there are also importunate demands in job applications nationwide.

I sometimes question God, why the Chinese are more fortunate than than the Filipinos? Why God allowed that mostly atheist China to become progressive than our country?

It is not only progressive in the news. People in China also experience the fruits of progress just like my Chinese teacher friend who can buy a nice apartment and save millions but our teachers in the Philippines are destitute to the point that they cannot save enough.
 

jameen

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Jameen,
if that is already your view, then why did you start this thread?

What was your goal?
I am here to collect the views of my compatriots and contemplate them. that's all :)

if you're not an American, will your resent God if ever you were born in a poor and corrupted nation that will really make you feel ashamed?

I saw how some nationalities discriminated my compatriots because of the decadent condition of my country.

for them we are branded as one of the inferior race in the world.
 

jameen

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Hey! Jamen :) kumusta kabayan? :)


Yep! I agree with you about corruption,crimes and others..sad truth but it is happening in my beloved country...and yeah I also agree with you that those countries are wonderful :) but let me share you a little bit from an old lady who works abroad for almost 12 years now...



Jameen, I was born in a place where we used lamp in the night,used firewoods to cook our food and sea sand to brush our teeth :D yep it was really really hard while I was growing up...


We grew up very poor ...lacking in everything but as a child I never imagined leaving my hometown or the Philippines.


But when I was in my 20's seeing the surrounding...I dreamed for a better life for my family...this dream drove me to work abroad...leaving behind my family was hard but I have to because if not my siblings won't be able to go to college... my salary in Philippines was enough only to feed myself...Leaving Philippines was the only option I've got...but I never resented about my country about the people about my life in Philippines... I love my country...the people I will never stop seeing the beauty and how blessed the Philippines is :) I will always be proud that I was born a Filipino... I am always thankful that I am a Filipino :) and in my heart there is no place like home...your beloved homeland and mine..The Philippines ❤
I find it rare for Filipinos to be proud of their country despite some of them came from humble beginnings and the country is not really something to be totally proud of.

I know most of them according to my experience prefer to be a naturalized citizen of the most powerful and richest nation on earth in order to get a better life for their loved ones.

I do hope that before I die I will be able to see a progressive and disciplined Philippines like some the Old Chinese who lived during the days of Chinese Civil War and Cultural Revolution but saw the present China's progressive, powerful and influential status.

I think we should fix our home instead of condemning and disgusting it. besides it is really one of the most beautiful nations in Asia Pacific (look at the beautiful natural landscapes, good beaches and good foods and remove the drugs, crimes and corruptions)
 

mar09

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I saw how some nationalities discriminated my compatriots because of the decadent condition of my country.

for them we are branded as one of the inferior race in the world.
What does it matter others brand us inferior? What's more impt is what God thinks of us, of u and me... Build on that relationship with the Lord and it would not really matter what others think... so i think=).
 

mar09

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I know our country is progressing. in fact it is one of the fastest growing economies. the problem here is the fruits are not well distributed nationwide. in reality a lot of people are struggling in life. a lot of people testify that life is still hard in the country

I myself who came from a middle class family saw how hard life in the Philippines. I saw that it is hard to find job, you cannot save a lot for your future family unlike my Chinese teacher friend who was able to save up to million yuan in the bank to the point that she can buy a nice apartment. there are also importunate demands in job applications nationwide.

I sometimes question God, why the Chinese are more fortunate than the Filipinos? Why God allowed that mostly atheist China to become progressive than our country?

It is not only progressive in the news. People in China also experience the fruits of progress just like my Chinese teacher friend who can buy a nice apartment and save millions but our teachers in the Philippines are destitute to the point that they cannot save enough.
Yes, there is unequal distribution of wealth, but so in many other countries-- incl. China! Your friend happens to have acquired more than others, u say, but there are still a lot of poor in china, di ba? It is a fact that the chinese filipinos are often more affluent, but is that also being more fortunate? I know the Christian filipino chinese are also quite generous people, as well as having some cultural and work attitudes that are very different from the common filipino. I cannot answer why God allowed mostly atheist china to be more progressive than us.

Some yrs ago, there was a Philippines for Jesus Movement (PJM) prayer gathering i went to, and they explained how very rich our country is in natural resources etc. It is our shortcoming that we have not learned to be good stewards of God's bounty. We are not technologically advanced, or if we do have technology, this isnt used fully. A large chunk of the population is still superstitious, very traditional in thoughts and ways, and resisting progressive change... mostly the renewal of the mind that knowing Christ brings. Perhaps our mindset makes the difference, for we can work towards that progress and prosperity we long for one person at a time... but more so when we are united. We can start being united in prayer now?
 

mar09

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I find it rare for Filipinos to be proud of their country despite some of them came from humble beginnings and the country is not really something to be totally proud of.

I know most of them according to my experience prefer to be a naturalized citizen of the most powerful and richest nation on earth in order to get a better life for their loved ones.

I do hope that before I die I will be able to see a progressive and disciplined Philippines like some the Old Chinese who lived during the days of Chinese Civil War and Cultural Revolution but saw the present China's progressive, powerful and influential status.

I think we should fix our home instead of condemning and disgusting it. besides it is really one of the most beautiful nations in Asia Pacific (look at the beautiful natural landscapes, good beaches and good foods and remove the drugs, crimes and corruptions)
I do know filipinos who are proud to be filipino and stay put, loyal to God and country. There are opportunities to 'get rich' in our country, but richness isnt just material as u well know. I know those who choose not to be naturalized citizens of other countries, for they still love their native land. They are not tempted to go abroad but do their homework patiently and faithfully right here=). And that is right, what we can do is fix our home as God leads. God bless you, jameen.
 

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you are just an attention seeker !!!! be glad , you've got what u want with all these 18 replies !!!!!

As filipino myself , Im contented of who I am...as long as we were born in this world as human..im grateful to God..

Not all filipinos were the same views as this fool has.....forgive me for being blatant of my word people....ill send my apology to all in behalf of this guy(OP)....

Philippines is beautiful country....God is here
 

mar09

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Hi fire,
It wasnt really 18 replies, was it? The Op may have some feelings of 'resentment' abt being born in our country, but doesnt make him a fool, does it? I agree our country is beautiful alright, and that God is here.