"an ethnographic hermeneutic"
639! wow.
right about the same time the Khazars converted to Talmudic Judaism! 'magine that!
their kings were the Kagans - (that sounds like but is not and has nothing to do with Cohens - Herod destroyed all records in 68AD so ain't nobody can make any claim to being israelites...didn't ya know JESUS MEANT WHAT HE SAID?)
anyways, now they are now 90% of world jewry - Ashkenazim.
dey wuz gentiles - never israelites, and after conversion (from phallic worship animism and shamanism), they still practiced a religion that is occult, pagan and has zippola to do with Moses; the prophets or Jesus > JUDAISM.
The Khazar religious structure centered around a shamanism known as Tengri, which incorporated the worship of spirits and the sky as well as zoolatry, the worship of animals. Tengri was also the name of their "immortal god who created the world," and the primary animal sacrifices made to this deity were horses.
Bury, J. B., A History of the Eastern Roman Empire, p. 120.
and, Pete... the surrounding peoples of the region before the fall of Jewish Khazaria and their dispersal to the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH ALL said the Khazars were antichrist - both before and after their conversion (usury; slavers; violent; extortionists, etc).
......
the Gazari, or Khazars, dwelt "in the lands of Gog and Magog." - Druthmar of Aquitaine, Expositio in Matthaeum Evangelistam
Omeljan Pritsak, The Khazar Kingdom's Conversion to Judaism, Harvard Ukrainian Studies 3:2 (Sept, 1978): 271.
the Khazars were so belligerent and hostile that they were eventually run out of Asia and scattered amongst the nations of Eastern Europe. - Benjamin H. Freedman, 1961, Washington, D.C.
the "terrifying people of Gog and Magog." - Heinrich von Neustadt, c. 1300
Andrew C. Gow, The Red Jews (Leiden, Netherlands: E. J. Brill, 1995), pp. 40-41.
Brook, The Jews of Khazaria, p. 10. Andrew C. Gow, The Red Jews (Leiden, Netherlands: E. J. Brill, 1995), p. 191.
Brook, The Jews of Khazaria, pp. 10-11.
Muslim history recalls the Khazar raids and the terror of those inhabiting that land. To this day they call the Caspian, Bahr-ul-Khazar -- "the Khazar Sea."
Tirmidhee, Abwaab al-Tafseer: Surat al-Kahf (Hadith 5160), 8/597-99; Ibn Maajah, Kitaab al-Fitan, (Hadith 4080), 2/1364. Ahmad, Musnad, 2/510, 511.
"These people are vigorous and courageous and when they descend on open ground, none can escape from them without being destroyed and their women taken possession of, and themselves taken into slavery."
Macartney, C. A., The Magyars in the Ninth Century (Cambridge, 1930).
"When the bek [the Khazar head of the military and second in command only to the Kagan himself] sends out a body of troops, they do not in any circumstances retreat. If they are defeated, every one who returns to him is killed....Sometimes he cuts every one of them in two and crucifies them and sometimes he hangs them by the neck from trees."
Douglas M. Dunlop, The History of the Jewish Khazars, p. 113.
Gene study settles debate over origin of European Jews
(AFP) – Jan 16, 2013
PARIS — Jews of European origin are a mix of ancestries, with many hailing from tribes in the Caucasus who converted to Judaism and created an empire that lasted half a millennium, according to a gene study.
The investigation, its author says, should settle a debate that has been roiling for more than two centuries.
Jews of European descent, often called Ashkenazis, account for some 90 percent of the more than 13 million Jews in the world today.
According to the so-called Rhineland Hypothesis, Ashkenazis descended from Jews who progressively fled Palestine after the Moslem conquest of 638 AD.
They settled in southern Europe and then, in the late Middle Ages, about 50,000 of them moved from the Rhineland in Germany into eastern Europe, according to the hypothesis.
But detractors say this idea is implausible.
Barring a miracle --which some supporters of the Rhineland Hypothesis have in fact suggested -- the scenario would have been demographically impossible.
It would mean that the population of Eastern European Jews leapt from 50,000 in the 15th century to around eight million at the start of the 20th century.
That birth rate would have been 10 times greater than that of the local non-Jewish population. And it would have occurred despite economic hardship, disease, wars and pogroms that ravaged Jewish communities.
Seeking new light in the argument, a study published in the British journal Genome Biology and Evolution, compares the genomes of 1,287 unrelated individuals who hail from eight Jewish and 74 non-Jewish populations.
Geneticist Eran Elhaik of the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health in Baltimore, Maryland, trawled through this small mountain of data in search of single changes in the DNA code that are linked to a group's geographical origins.
Such telltales have been used in past research to delve into the origins of the Basque people and the pygmy people of central Africa.
Among European Jews, Elhaik found ancestral signatures that pointed clearly to the Caucasus and also, but to a smaller degree, the Middle East.
The results, said Elhaik, give sound backing for the rival theory -- the "Khazarian Hypothesis."
Under this concept, eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, a hotchpotch of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries AD and, influenced by Jews from Palestine, converted to Judaism in the 8th century.
The Judeo-Khazars built a flourishing empire, drawing in Jews from Mesopotamia and imperial Byzantium.
They became so successful that they sent offshoots into Hungary and Romania, planting the seeds of a great diaspora.
But Khazaria collapsed in the 13th century when it was attacked by the Mongols and became weakened by outbreaks of the Black Death.
The Judeo-Khazars fled westwards, settling in the rising Polish Kingdom and in Hungary, where their skills in finance, economics and politics were in demand, and eventually spread to central and western Europe, according to the "Khazarian Hypothesis."
"We conclude that the genome of European Jews is a tapestry of ancient populations including Judaised Khazars, Greco-Roman Jews, Mesopotamian Jews and Judeans," says Elhaik.
"Their population structure was formed in the Caucasus and the banks of the Volga, with roots stretching to Canaan and the banks of the Jordan."
Many things are unknown about the Khazars, whose tribal confederation gathered Slavs, Scythians, Hunnic-Bulgars, Iranians, Alans and Turks.
But, argues Elhaik, the tale sketched in the genes is backed by archaeological findings, by Jewish literature that describes the Khazars' conversion to Judaism, and by language, too.
"Yiddish, the language of Central and Eastern European Jews, began as a Slavic language" before being reclassified as High German, he notes.
Another pointer is that European Jews and their ancestral groups in the Caucasus and Middle East share a relatively high risk of diseases such as cystic fibrosis.
The investigation should help fine-tune a fast-expanding branch of genomics, which looks at single-change DNA mutations that are linked with inherited disease, adds Elhaik.
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what does the Holy Land and God's people have to do with the Khazars, Pete? God's people are called Christians
you can find Gog and Magog in prophecy though.
use your racist "an ethnographic hermeneutic".
see what ya come up with.
"their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race; and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." [making the satanically perverted term] "anti-Semitism" "void of meaning"
Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe, p. 179-80.
paraphrasing Jewish Koestler - this makes the modern Jew, currently occupying Palestine antisemitic -- an historical mockery of somewhat amazing proportions.
Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe, p. 17.
........
LOVE HURTS, PETE
specially when ya got pwnd.
You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns*
When they all come down and did tricks for you*
You never understood that it ain't no good*
You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you*
You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat*
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat*
Ain't it hard when you discover that*
He really wasn't where it's at*
After he took from you everything he could steal.*
How does it feel*
How does it feel*
To be on your own*
With no direction home*
Like a complete unknown*
Like a rolling stone?*
ttyl.
why not just PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL NATIONS (GENTILES), INCLUDING THE KHAZARS AND GIVE THANKS TO GOD.
Is your ability to think critically really that compromised?
Greece and the Roman Empire didn't exist in Daniel's day either. That doesn't change the fact that he prophesied of them.
The historical fact of the matter is that the Roman Empire of John's day was conquered by the Islamic First Jihad in 639.
Greece and the Roman Empire didn't exist in Daniel's day either. That doesn't change the fact that he prophesied of them.
The historical fact of the matter is that the Roman Empire of John's day was conquered by the Islamic First Jihad in 639.
right about the same time the Khazars converted to Talmudic Judaism! 'magine that!
their kings were the Kagans - (that sounds like but is not and has nothing to do with Cohens - Herod destroyed all records in 68AD so ain't nobody can make any claim to being israelites...didn't ya know JESUS MEANT WHAT HE SAID?)
anyways, now they are now 90% of world jewry - Ashkenazim.
dey wuz gentiles - never israelites, and after conversion (from phallic worship animism and shamanism), they still practiced a religion that is occult, pagan and has zippola to do with Moses; the prophets or Jesus > JUDAISM.
The Khazar religious structure centered around a shamanism known as Tengri, which incorporated the worship of spirits and the sky as well as zoolatry, the worship of animals. Tengri was also the name of their "immortal god who created the world," and the primary animal sacrifices made to this deity were horses.
Bury, J. B., A History of the Eastern Roman Empire, p. 120.
and, Pete... the surrounding peoples of the region before the fall of Jewish Khazaria and their dispersal to the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH ALL said the Khazars were antichrist - both before and after their conversion (usury; slavers; violent; extortionists, etc).
......
the Gazari, or Khazars, dwelt "in the lands of Gog and Magog." - Druthmar of Aquitaine, Expositio in Matthaeum Evangelistam
Omeljan Pritsak, The Khazar Kingdom's Conversion to Judaism, Harvard Ukrainian Studies 3:2 (Sept, 1978): 271.
the Khazars were so belligerent and hostile that they were eventually run out of Asia and scattered amongst the nations of Eastern Europe. - Benjamin H. Freedman, 1961, Washington, D.C.
the "terrifying people of Gog and Magog." - Heinrich von Neustadt, c. 1300
Andrew C. Gow, The Red Jews (Leiden, Netherlands: E. J. Brill, 1995), pp. 40-41.
Brook, The Jews of Khazaria, p. 10. Andrew C. Gow, The Red Jews (Leiden, Netherlands: E. J. Brill, 1995), p. 191.
Brook, The Jews of Khazaria, pp. 10-11.
Muslim history recalls the Khazar raids and the terror of those inhabiting that land. To this day they call the Caspian, Bahr-ul-Khazar -- "the Khazar Sea."
Tirmidhee, Abwaab al-Tafseer: Surat al-Kahf (Hadith 5160), 8/597-99; Ibn Maajah, Kitaab al-Fitan, (Hadith 4080), 2/1364. Ahmad, Musnad, 2/510, 511.
"These people are vigorous and courageous and when they descend on open ground, none can escape from them without being destroyed and their women taken possession of, and themselves taken into slavery."
Macartney, C. A., The Magyars in the Ninth Century (Cambridge, 1930).
"When the bek [the Khazar head of the military and second in command only to the Kagan himself] sends out a body of troops, they do not in any circumstances retreat. If they are defeated, every one who returns to him is killed....Sometimes he cuts every one of them in two and crucifies them and sometimes he hangs them by the neck from trees."
Douglas M. Dunlop, The History of the Jewish Khazars, p. 113.
Gene study settles debate over origin of European Jews
(AFP) – Jan 16, 2013
PARIS — Jews of European origin are a mix of ancestries, with many hailing from tribes in the Caucasus who converted to Judaism and created an empire that lasted half a millennium, according to a gene study.
The investigation, its author says, should settle a debate that has been roiling for more than two centuries.
Jews of European descent, often called Ashkenazis, account for some 90 percent of the more than 13 million Jews in the world today.
According to the so-called Rhineland Hypothesis, Ashkenazis descended from Jews who progressively fled Palestine after the Moslem conquest of 638 AD.
They settled in southern Europe and then, in the late Middle Ages, about 50,000 of them moved from the Rhineland in Germany into eastern Europe, according to the hypothesis.
But detractors say this idea is implausible.
Barring a miracle --which some supporters of the Rhineland Hypothesis have in fact suggested -- the scenario would have been demographically impossible.
It would mean that the population of Eastern European Jews leapt from 50,000 in the 15th century to around eight million at the start of the 20th century.
That birth rate would have been 10 times greater than that of the local non-Jewish population. And it would have occurred despite economic hardship, disease, wars and pogroms that ravaged Jewish communities.
Seeking new light in the argument, a study published in the British journal Genome Biology and Evolution, compares the genomes of 1,287 unrelated individuals who hail from eight Jewish and 74 non-Jewish populations.
Geneticist Eran Elhaik of the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health in Baltimore, Maryland, trawled through this small mountain of data in search of single changes in the DNA code that are linked to a group's geographical origins.
Such telltales have been used in past research to delve into the origins of the Basque people and the pygmy people of central Africa.
Among European Jews, Elhaik found ancestral signatures that pointed clearly to the Caucasus and also, but to a smaller degree, the Middle East.
The results, said Elhaik, give sound backing for the rival theory -- the "Khazarian Hypothesis."
Under this concept, eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, a hotchpotch of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries AD and, influenced by Jews from Palestine, converted to Judaism in the 8th century.
The Judeo-Khazars built a flourishing empire, drawing in Jews from Mesopotamia and imperial Byzantium.
They became so successful that they sent offshoots into Hungary and Romania, planting the seeds of a great diaspora.
But Khazaria collapsed in the 13th century when it was attacked by the Mongols and became weakened by outbreaks of the Black Death.
The Judeo-Khazars fled westwards, settling in the rising Polish Kingdom and in Hungary, where their skills in finance, economics and politics were in demand, and eventually spread to central and western Europe, according to the "Khazarian Hypothesis."
"We conclude that the genome of European Jews is a tapestry of ancient populations including Judaised Khazars, Greco-Roman Jews, Mesopotamian Jews and Judeans," says Elhaik.
"Their population structure was formed in the Caucasus and the banks of the Volga, with roots stretching to Canaan and the banks of the Jordan."
Many things are unknown about the Khazars, whose tribal confederation gathered Slavs, Scythians, Hunnic-Bulgars, Iranians, Alans and Turks.
But, argues Elhaik, the tale sketched in the genes is backed by archaeological findings, by Jewish literature that describes the Khazars' conversion to Judaism, and by language, too.
"Yiddish, the language of Central and Eastern European Jews, began as a Slavic language" before being reclassified as High German, he notes.
Another pointer is that European Jews and their ancestral groups in the Caucasus and Middle East share a relatively high risk of diseases such as cystic fibrosis.
The investigation should help fine-tune a fast-expanding branch of genomics, which looks at single-change DNA mutations that are linked with inherited disease, adds Elhaik.
...
I see. Bible prophecy isn't about the Holy Land and God's people, but about Mexico because it is one of the most dangerous places on earth. Congratulations on such a scholarly approach to bible study Zone! Should we be surprised that you are a partial preterist punitive supersesionist, in the mold of so many anti-Semitic Popes, who wanted to bend scripture to their will as well.
you can find Gog and Magog in prophecy though.
use your racist "an ethnographic hermeneutic".
see what ya come up with.
"their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan but from the Caucasus, once believed to be the cradle of the Aryan race; and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." [making the satanically perverted term] "anti-Semitism" "void of meaning"
Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe, p. 179-80.
paraphrasing Jewish Koestler - this makes the modern Jew, currently occupying Palestine antisemitic -- an historical mockery of somewhat amazing proportions.
Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe, p. 17.
........
LOVE HURTS, PETE
specially when ya got pwnd.
You never turned around to see the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns*
When they all come down and did tricks for you*
You never understood that it ain't no good*
You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you*
You used to ride on the chrome horse with your diplomat*
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat*
Ain't it hard when you discover that*
He really wasn't where it's at*
After he took from you everything he could steal.*
How does it feel*
How does it feel*
To be on your own*
With no direction home*
Like a complete unknown*
Like a rolling stone?*
ttyl.
why not just PREACH THE GOSPEL TO ALL NATIONS (GENTILES), INCLUDING THE KHAZARS AND GIVE THANKS TO GOD.
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