Should we eat unclean meat of the old testament?

[ElizabethPeter]

The Bible also said to drink poison. Are you going to do that? Mhm.. that's what I thought. The thing that so many don't get is that the Bible, shouldn't be read with a carnal mind. The Bible should be read with a spiritual mind. Why? The Bible is like a book of records. But, it's the record of the things that happen to people, spiritually. That's why it's a little nonsensical. We can't see what happens to the spiritual lives of others, that's why the Bible is written the way it is. It's written through the natural understanding. Because many find it hard to believe if they can't see. But seeing isn't believing. Believing, is seeing. It's like the wind. You can't see it, yet, you know it's there. Why? Because you can feel it. This is practically the same. That's why only God can see our spirit. We can't, so, He teaches us through the natural, to make us understand what is really happening. I'm not sure if you get it, but if you're reading the Bible with a carnal mind, and actually do what it tells you to, you'd be dead. Instead, read the Bible with a spiritual mind. And then, all your questions will be answered.

 

[Drett]

That is much debated among the learned. I'd say, contextually speaking, He didn't. If He did then He would have spoken against the law. That does not mean that one cannot eat unclean meat, but to claim Jesus said so might be far fetched. Remember Peter said years later in the vision he received that nothing unclean had entered his mouth at any time. If Jesus had taught him that no meats were unclean he wouldn't have said so.

If Jesus never ate unclean meat and his companions never ate unclean meat then how did it become clean ?

 

[tribesman]

If Jesus never ate unclean meat and his companions never ate unclean meat then how did it become clean ?

It didn't. But its not part of what was listed in the apostolic council (Acts 15 & 21).

 

[Laodicea]

Acts 10:26-28


King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]26 [/SUP]But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

When did God show Peter not to call any man common or unclean?

Acts 10:13-19

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]13 [/SUP]And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee.

This shows that Peter's vision of eating unclean food is about Gentiles because the Jews taught that Gentiles were unclean. God wanted the gospel to go to all people not just the Jews whom they were preaching the gospel to at that time. It is not about being allowed to eat unclean food.

 

[Laodicea]

Matthew 15:1-2, 16-20 (KJV)
1 Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
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16 [/SUP]And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
[SUP]18 [/SUP]But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

From the context it is clearly speaking about tradition and eating with unwashed hands because the Pharisees taught a person was defiled eating with unwashed hands.

 

[Laodicea]

Genesis 1:29-30 KJV
(29) And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
(30) And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

God's original diet was a vegetarian diet for all. Our creator knows better than what we do so if we want the best health we should follow the creators plan

 

[kardiaoangelous]

If Jesus never ate unclean meat and his companions never ate unclean meat then how did it become clean ?

Tribesman commented, "Remember Peter said years later in the vision he received that nothing unclean had entered his mouth at any time. If Jesus had taught him that no meats were unclean he wouldn't have said so."

Peter spoke that right there at the time of being given that vision and nowhere else.

That Old Covenant requirement was indeed only a picture which does apply in senses as these:

1 Peter 2:22 "Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth.."

James 3:10 "Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be."

Colossians 3:8 "But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth."

Ephesians 4:29 "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers."

The clean meat all pictured Christ's body so that the result is this:

Romans 15:6 "That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."


Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

 

[ChristReconcilesAll]

God said he doesn't allow us to eat certain foods, so why do we eat it if the bible said not to?

We of the nations are not subject to the law of Hebrew scripture.

 

[Brother_Don]

God doesn't give one group some laws and then tells the other group that the laws don't concern them, God is no respecter of people, God doesn't see jew or greek, He see's us as his children, and doesn't say, now my jewish children need to apply these jewish laws to their lives, but the greek children don't have any laws they are bound to.

 

[megaman125]

The Bible also said to drink poison.

No, the Bible certainly does not tell us to drink poison.


On topic: the consequences of eating pork was never sin. You were just unclean until evening, meaning you couldn't go to the tabernacle. News flash, we don't go to the tabernacle. There was also never the need to repent from eating pork, there was no sin offering made for it, and there's also this:

Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
1 Timothy 4:1-3

Very clearly, teaching that we're required to abstain from certain foods is a teaching of demons. It is false doctrine. The end.