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jinx

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do you want big words or hick words?
 
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Being not correct bothers me. The almost is not good I know this. I'm seeking. My brain needs to absorb. Is the faith part right at least?
Yes. :)

If this all goes the right direction, I'll specifically show you exactly how you're right by what you've said above.
 
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Pneumonia, see what big words do. Causes confusion. Jesus spoke as a layman and so will I.
 
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That's what the dictionary is for. Knife defence? lol.
 
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Pneumonia, see what big words do. Causes confusion. Jesus spoke as a layman and so will I.
Your doctrine was formulated by those words, and by those who used big words. Don't blame me. And don't try to hide behind country bumpkin simplicity about Trinity doctrine and then claim others are causing confusion. Trinity doctrine is the confusion.

And Jesus didn't speak as a layman. He was the Logos made flesh. Don't bring God down to your human level.
 
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Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Father. Jesus is in our heart, or, did the Holy Spirit leave Jesus after He died. Remember, Jesus came of the Holy Spirit's seed, which is God's seed. which is God. Hard to understand, but the truth is there, just waiting for you to come to understand it. Ask Him. You will. Three forms, one being-- God, Jesus, Holy Spirit. There are NOT three Gods, just One, but He has manifested Himself in two other forms--Jesus, Holy Spirit. God is one Divine being. We do not worship the Lord Thy Gods; WE worship the Lord Thy God :)
 
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What I'd like to get to is what can begin illustrating the shared omission among ALL the historical views.

Question for each who would respond... Would you agree with the following:


The standard default understanding is that God is transcendent to [beyond] the created earthly realm (the natural universe); and that God dwells in the eternal heavenly realm, from infinite eternal past to infinite eternal future. This implies that God has His inherent existence in the heavenly realm, from whence He created the vast expanse of the natural universe.

IOW... God's existence is in heaven. Heaven is eternity. Eternity has an infinite past and an infinite future. From heaven, God created the entirety of the natural universe. In heaven, God created the angelic host, etc.

Isn't that the universal understanding? Yes or no.
 
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If Jesus spoke as a theologian although He was the best. How could a fisherman understand what he was saying, or a tax collector. Now luke might could understand being a doctor. Then Paul, being trained in the scripture and in line to be High Priest. Is it not noted that when Peter stood before the sanhedrin that they marveled knowing that he was not trained in the scripture.
 
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So can I draw this out? ONLY because I want to make certain I understand it clearly ..

God - all creator , over son and HS
Jesus - manifestation of God in the flesh/ the word
HS- the constant communication between father and son

Jesus being "in us" , is in constant communication (which is the Holy Spirit flowing between them)

all centered as one operating as one .. Is that right ?
Jesus and God are the same it is just that we can see the physical with our physical eyes but we cannot see the spiritual with our physical eyes. If we had the spiritual equivalent of an infrared camera we would see both flesh and spirit together as one.

The flesh and the spirit communicate with each other the same way our spirit communicates with our flesh through our nervous system. All three, flesh, spirit and nervous system (Holy Spirit) are one God.
 
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What I'd like to get to is what can begin illustrating the shared omission among ALL the historical views.

Question for each who would respond... Would you agree with the following:


The standard default understanding is that God is transcendent to [beyond] the created earthly realm (the natural universe); and that God dwells in the eternal heavenly realm, from infinite eternal past to infinite eternal future. This implies that God has His inherent existence in the heavenly realm, from whence He created the vast expanse of the natural universe.

IOW... God's existence is in heaven. Heaven is eternity. Eternity has an infinite past and an infinite future. From heaven, God created the entirety of the natural universe. In heaven, God created the angelic host, etc.

Isn't that the universal understanding? Yes or no.
Yes, God created it all. So whats your point?
 
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jinx

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What I'd like to get to is what can begin illustrating the shared omission among ALL the historical views.

Question for each who would respond... Would you agree with the following:


The standard default understanding is that God is transcendent to [beyond] the created earthly realm (the natural universe); and that God dwells in the eternal heavenly realm, from infinite eternal past to infinite eternal future. This implies that God has His inherent existence in the heavenly realm, from whence He created the vast expanse of the natural universe.

IOW... God's existence is in heaven. Heaven is eternity. Eternity has an infinite past and an infinite future. From heaven, God created the entirety of the natural universe. In heaven, God created the angelic host, etc.

Isn't that the universal understanding? Yes or no.
I believe GOD is omnipresent. So HE wouldn't be limited to just the heavens.
 
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If Jesus spoke as a theologian although He was the best. How could a fisherman understand what he was saying, or a tax collector. Now luke might could understand being a doctor. Then Paul, being trained in the scripture and in line to be High Priest. Is it not noted that when Peter stood before the sanhedrin that they marveled knowing that he was trained in the scripture.
Well... my questions have simple and direct, and you haven't even attempted to answer any of them.
 
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Well... my questions have simple and direct, and you haven't even attempted to answer any of them.
I see you saying that there is only one. I say that the bible say's there are three acting as one unit. Also known as the Godhead. What are you saying?
 
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Yes, God created it all. So whats your point?
My purpose is to illustrate the shared omission of misunderstanding of ALL the historical God-models.

Is the above your understanding? God's existence is in heaven. Heaven is eternity. Eternity is infinite past and future. And from heaven/eternity, God created the natural universe.

Is there anything you'd add or correct?
 
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Abiding

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I could sit down with you and a dry erase board for 3 hours or less and you'd understand the exact truth about God's nature and creation.
Id give that a go...but only after i reviewed word meanings because you have a vocabulary
that would overwhelm me and cause me to get confused...but you could mail me words in advance
and give me time to get up to speed....id bet you could do that:eek: