There is no such thing as Sola Scriptura

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I missed the ark comment.
 

homwardbound

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Cherry-picking?
Uhhh, no. These are crystal clear type and fulfillments. Some of the are almost verbatim from the OT to the NT:

"Who am I that the Ark of my Lord should come to me?" (2 Sam. 6:9)
“Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Luke 1:43)

The only difference in these quotes is bold and underlined. Hiding your head in the sand won't make this truth magically disappear . . .
tell me sir, what was Christ's purpose here on earth to do? was it to fulfill Law and the prohets?
[h=3]Matthew 5:17[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]Christ Fulfills the Law[/h][SUP]17 [/SUP]“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

So when he went to the cross and died do you think he did waht he said he came to do or was Christ a liar?

[h=3]John 19:30[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]30 [/SUP]So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.
Soif all is fulfilled and as he said it is finished then Old testament Law and Prohets are filled by Christ yes?

so after the cross, we are in a new and differant covenant, under new Laws, Laws of LOVE, and under a new Priesthood in the order of Mechezadek
There is no mention of Mary here her Job complete in raising the Messiah. and we all have differant Jobs to bring each other to Christ in the fullness of Christ
 

homwardbound

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Why do you keep LYING?
Why do you keep insisting that we worship Mary?

We simply ASK Mary to pray for us. Everything else you have added to this is a complete and total lie.
so tell me this then if I do not pray to the Mother Mary and I do not, yet am thankful for her, but do not pray to her what does that make me since I do not pray to her or any other Saint, for I shall not have any others before God?
 

homwardbound

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Which part of my post was not truth?
Please itemize the parts that are not true.
put your post of Mary being the ark in context with all the scripture surrounding. No jumping around from one scripture from somewhere else then to another
You wish to proove your point about Mother Mary post it in complete context verse one of that Chapter to the end of that Chapter
 
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put your post of Mary being the ark in context with all the scripture surrounding. No jumping around from one scripture from somewhere else then to another
You wish to proove your point about Mother Mary post it in complete context verse one of that Chapter to the end of that Chapter

homie, the dude got banned
 

homwardbound

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Ummm, do you know what the Ark carried?
Did Jesus "carry" the Word - or IS He the Word??

Mary carried the Word made Flesh. Thank you for pointing to John 1:14. PROVES my point.
although Mary is the Mother of Christ, and she rasied him, where in this passage or in the context does it say anything pointing to Mary. It is from verse 1 about Christ being the word and that he came to earth for us nowjhere does it say through Mary and we are to worship Mary or even pray to Mary
 

homwardbound

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Why do you ask Mary to pray for you, I thought only Christ was the mediator for us...and I did not think we were to pray to the dead? I thought it is 'Christ alone' was his death on the cross not enough...? <><
yes more than that it is by his resurrection we are saved rewad it 1 cor 15 please see without the resurrectionj Sister we would still be in our sins which many are because they only stop at the death and do not see the life that he came to give as he said in John 10:10
 

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I just recently had to calm my poor Catholic dad because he was worried about how long my mom who died of Alzheimer's would be in purgatory. It's that kind of stuff that makes the church doctrine so evil.
purgatory over after the resurrection of Christ
1 peter 3:18-22
[h=3]Christ’s Suffering and Ours[/h][SUP]18 [/SUP]For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, [SUP]19 [/SUP]by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, [SUP]20 [/SUP]who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. [SUP]21 [/SUP]There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, [SUP]22 [/SUP]who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.
 

homwardbound

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Homeward.
I'm sorry but it is a false love that tolerates another gospel. Love may trump faith and hope but it doesn't trump God's Truth as expressed in His written word. I don't hate catholics, but I will come against their main errors.
Can you imagine what the Church would be like without sola scriptura? Think dark ages, where God's Word is suppressed and the 'authority of the Church' dictated all...a lost Gospel, superstitions abounding, ecclesiastic tyranny. Don't be fooled by wolves in sheep's clothing.
Tell me Sister how does one catch flies? With vinegar or Honey?
I love the person as God does period, not Dogma I hate sin period, not the one that sins as Christ does the same whether they sin or not
As I have said before since Christ is being preached and those seeking Christ, truth they will find it, by God and from God
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: [SUP]16 [/SUP]The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; [SUP]17 [/SUP]but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel.
 

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Tell me Sister how does one catch flies? With vinegar or Honey?
I love the person as God does period, not Dogma I hate sin period, not the one that sins as Christ does the same whether they sin or not
As I have said before since Christ is being preached and those seeking Christ, truth they will find it, by God and from God
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: [SUP]16 [/SUP]The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; [SUP]17 [/SUP]but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel.
home - when the user's name is blue it means he is a guy.
pink means it is a gal.

crossnote is a man.
k....:)

also: corrupt 'Dogma' is sin.
pretty sure my bro crossnote doesn't hate anybody.
 
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home - when the user's name is blue it means he is a guy.
pink means it is a gal.

crossnote is a man.
k....:)

ROFL!!! It's funny cause I've done that too!!! LOL
 

homwardbound

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Your opinion is duly noted.

Perhaps you might one day see fit to share with us why you think that.

This symbolic depth to the Catholic Tradition that ChurchAuthority has gifted us with reminds me of a Star Trek episode of people who only knew how to communicate in metaphor and symbol.
"Shaka with arms open wide" or something like that.
You said that Church Authority has given us? so Church Authority is your Authority?
[h=3]Hebrews 8[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]The New Priestly Service[/h]8 Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, [SUP]2 [/SUP]a Minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle which the Lord erected, and not man.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. Therefore it is necessary that this One also have something to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law; [SUP]5 [/SUP]who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” [SUP]6 [/SUP]But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

My only Authority is God through Christ the Son

[h=3]Christ’s Death Perfects the Sanctified[/h][SUP]11 [/SUP]And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. [SUP]12 [/SUP]But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, [SUP]13 [/SUP]from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

[SUP]15 [/SUP]But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before,

[SUP]16 [/SUP]“This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” [SUP]17 [/SUP]then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” [SUP]18 [/SUP]Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.
 

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You said that Church Authority has given us? so Church Authority is your Authority?
[h=3]Hebrews 8[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
HOME!

Xanthus & ChurchAuthority
Banned

k?
 

homwardbound

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Seems when a Catholic gets involved in a discussion and upsets people because his/her arguments are good, they get banned. I'm out of these forums. Freedom of speech doesn't exist here. ChurchAuthority did absolutely nothing to deserve that. It was a brilliant discussion. How sad. We were told we would be hated by the world. The whole world hates us. Muslims, athiests, and even alot of our fellow Christians. All for the glory of God!! Praise be to Him. If you guys want to share what you perceive to be the truth, that is certainly not the way to do it. Peace all the same!! God bless.
So what are we fighting over truth vrs error yes? Who is truth? Is truth in any church? Yes in all but not all truth is in any Earth Church is there?
You know I have a pure glass of water, and do you know how it is tainted? Just put in a drop of ink and the whole glass is tainted and is why Christ is not in any church because
[h=3]Hebrews 8[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[h=3]The New Priestly Service[/h]8 Now this is the main point of the things we are saying: We have such a High Priest, who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens, [SUP]2 [/SUP]a Minister of the sanctuary and of the true tabernacle which the Lord erected, and not man.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices. Therefore it is necessary that this One also have something to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest, since there are priests who offer the gifts according to the law; [SUP]5 [/SUP]who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things, as Moses was divinely instructed when he was about to make the tabernacle. For He said, “See that you make all things according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.” [SUP]6 [/SUP]But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

the above mentioned is to all earthly Churches no certain ones re-read where the true tabernacle is if you do not believe this,
 

homwardbound

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homie, the dude got banned
yeah I saw and had posted to his response before I knew this and it is too bad that this took place. I did not see anywhere he was posting badm but I am not a moderator
 
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HOMIE!!!!

Xanthus & ChurchAuthority have been banned, 7seven7 says he no longer wants to be a part of the conversation.

you really REALLY REALLY need to pay attention!!!!!!!!

please.
 

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home - when the user's name is blue it means he is a guy.
pink means it is a gal.

crossnote is a man.
k....:)

also: corrupt 'Dogma' is sin.
pretty sure my bro crossnote doesn't hate anybody.
thanks for the reminder I get caught up in scripture and responses, twice now I have done this, and might again hope not
 

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Banned Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh well, so how do we tell if one is banned or not? where do I go to see this
It appears under the name on the left of your screen...

Where it appears senior member above your picture.