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Ricky, I have to say...this surprised me.
I listened to the first of the two sermons two nights ago. Waiting for Mark to hear them both tomorrow.
When I read this comment, my first thought was this:
And summoning two of his disciples, John sent them to the Lord, saying, “Are You the Expected One, or do we look for someone else?” And when the men had come to Him, they said, “John the Baptist has sent us to You, saying, ‘Are You the Expected One, or do we look for someone else? (Luke 7:19-20)
If believers were undergoing some sort of horrible ordeal, like John was, sitting in prison waiting to be killed,
I'd think the basics would be about all they could think about.
Have we believed in vain? Was this not the truth, for which we are persecuted and put to death?
Jesus...are You the Christ?
In that sense, remembering a message about the Gospel, and how it was preached from Genesis to The Revelation,
and how many prophecies had to be (and were) fulfilled in the Lord Jesus would be incredibly empowering.
Faith bolstering, even.
love,
ellie
I listened to the first of the two sermons two nights ago. Waiting for Mark to hear them both tomorrow.
When I read this comment, my first thought was this:
And summoning two of his disciples, John sent them to the Lord, saying, “Are You the Expected One, or do we look for someone else?” And when the men had come to Him, they said, “John the Baptist has sent us to You, saying, ‘Are You the Expected One, or do we look for someone else? (Luke 7:19-20)
If believers were undergoing some sort of horrible ordeal, like John was, sitting in prison waiting to be killed,
I'd think the basics would be about all they could think about.
Have we believed in vain? Was this not the truth, for which we are persecuted and put to death?
Jesus...are You the Christ?
In that sense, remembering a message about the Gospel, and how it was preached from Genesis to The Revelation,
and how many prophecies had to be (and were) fulfilled in the Lord Jesus would be incredibly empowering.
Faith bolstering, even.
love,
ellie
That is my point, beloved. What is considered "scriptural" in the midst of all of these listed? Yet this is accepted by the world.
As long as I take a stand in one of the many accepted teachings provided for me, I make be accused all day of how wrong my position is, but I am ACCEPTED.
If I believe that all will be saved, and there are those who believe otherwise, why are these other "scriptural" beliefs embraced, and yet I am threatened with being banned?
If I am wrong, there is still no violence, nor evil in my message. Is God a righteous God if He chose to save ALL His children of this world?
But the problem is you are contradicting what the Bible very plainly says. There is no where in scripture that says that God will save all,it is His desire that none perish. The heart of the reason that most WILL be cast into the lake of fire is they want nothing to do with HIM. If one does not want to be with Him it would be torture to spend eternity with God whom they can not stand,want nothing to do with and refuse to listen to Him. Jesus talks about hell more than anyone else in the Bible,
to say otherwise makes Him out to be a liar. So in essence you are saying Jesus lied. That is what is at the heart of the matter.
to say otherwise makes Him out to be a liar. So in essence you are saying Jesus lied. That is what is at the heart of the matter.
If it is God's desire to save all, will his desires be met or will a mere created human have the final say over an all powerful God? I can show you MANY verses about the salvation of all. Likewise you may show me just as many indicating otherwise. But it is out of our hearts that show the intent of the scripture's usage. God desires all to come to Him. And I do to.
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If you are wrong (and you are) there's this:
Galatians 1
8) But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
9) As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1
8) But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
9) As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.
For a GAL like Zonie that believes so much in Scripture, it is ironic that she limits scripture to her understanding. There is much I agree with Zone, but she does lose a LOT when she wants to limit the Word of God as HE has given us. There is so much conditional circumstances the Lord gives before we would RECIEVE... God says he gives wisdom unconditionally, but the person has to ask with faith.... So the condition is FAITH.
Now concerning PROPHECIES and what God has to say in 2013.
When God is in control of a church this transpires in that church.... God is in control of EVERY SONG SUNG, EVERY PROPHECY SPOKEN AND EVERY REVELATION GIVEN. EVEN OF THE SPEAKING IN TONGUES and the INTERPRETATION THERE-OF. The Holy Spirit is the ONE THAT BUILDS AND MAKE GROW ALL IN THAT CHURCH IN GOD'S TRUTH...
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
About the PROPHESIES GIVEN BY THIS LET US SEE WHAT SHOULD BE DONE FOR EDIFICATION....ALSO THE DOCTRINE AND ALL OTHER SHOULD BE JUDGED LIKEWISE... Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
If we look at the gifts of the Spirit, in the Godly church there will be ALL the gifts of the Spirit. And the prophets will be JUDGED by other's the ones with knowledge and faith and wisdom... between them there are perfect JUDGES, who will judge the prophecy. And of coarse to show ZONE that ALL PROPHECIES IN 2013, will be 100% in line with the Gospel and the old time prophecy. BEAUTIFUL.
MANY prophecies are a ONGOING happening... Like the salvation in Jesus Christ. That prophecy will come true forever as long as God saves people.... Even the gifts of the Spirits is an ONGOING happening, and we CANNOT limit God by our understanding.... Prohecies and Faith is BOTH GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND HE GIVES THEM AS HE WANTS... No matter what my understanding is.... THE HOLY SPIRIT WOULD NOT STOP GIVING GIFTS, AS LONG AS THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH RECEIVING THE HOLY SPIRIT. He comes with gifts, and He is even the perfect gift from above...
Zonie, you have still many things to believe what God does to HIS CHILDREN... He will NEVER draw back... NEVER! He will however not need to do ANY WORK on people when HE IS FINISHED. Then there will be no more evil. Or people to be saved...
Now concerning PROPHECIES and what God has to say in 2013.
When God is in control of a church this transpires in that church.... God is in control of EVERY SONG SUNG, EVERY PROPHECY SPOKEN AND EVERY REVELATION GIVEN. EVEN OF THE SPEAKING IN TONGUES and the INTERPRETATION THERE-OF. The Holy Spirit is the ONE THAT BUILDS AND MAKE GROW ALL IN THAT CHURCH IN GOD'S TRUTH...
How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.
About the PROPHESIES GIVEN BY THIS LET US SEE WHAT SHOULD BE DONE FOR EDIFICATION....ALSO THE DOCTRINE AND ALL OTHER SHOULD BE JUDGED LIKEWISE... Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
If we look at the gifts of the Spirit, in the Godly church there will be ALL the gifts of the Spirit. And the prophets will be JUDGED by other's the ones with knowledge and faith and wisdom... between them there are perfect JUDGES, who will judge the prophecy. And of coarse to show ZONE that ALL PROPHECIES IN 2013, will be 100% in line with the Gospel and the old time prophecy. BEAUTIFUL.
MANY prophecies are a ONGOING happening... Like the salvation in Jesus Christ. That prophecy will come true forever as long as God saves people.... Even the gifts of the Spirits is an ONGOING happening, and we CANNOT limit God by our understanding.... Prohecies and Faith is BOTH GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND HE GIVES THEM AS HE WANTS... No matter what my understanding is.... THE HOLY SPIRIT WOULD NOT STOP GIVING GIFTS, AS LONG AS THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH RECEIVING THE HOLY SPIRIT. He comes with gifts, and He is even the perfect gift from above...
Zonie, you have still many things to believe what God does to HIS CHILDREN... He will NEVER draw back... NEVER! He will however not need to do ANY WORK on people when HE IS FINISHED. Then there will be no more evil. Or people to be saved...
UHH Cobus
Do you understand what Zone was asking in her OP? Here it is again in case you missed it.
Do you understand that she is asking if anyone has any prophets that can be tested against the word of God to show that they are true prophets of God and not false prophets. Do you know of any that can be tested against the plumb line of the scriptures? So the question that one should be asking is why after almost 14 pages of posts why has no one has come up with even one yet? Is someone trying to tell us something? Shouldn't we get the hint that there may just be something wrong or do we just ignore it all?
Do you understand what Zone was asking in her OP? Here it is again in case you missed it.
Do you understand that she is asking if anyone has any prophets that can be tested against the word of God to show that they are true prophets of God and not false prophets. Do you know of any that can be tested against the plumb line of the scriptures? So the question that one should be asking is why after almost 14 pages of posts why has no one has come up with even one yet? Is someone trying to tell us something? Shouldn't we get the hint that there may just be something wrong or do we just ignore it all?
CC is not in the will of God! If you want God to bless CC you hacve to stick in the WORD of God! Anything outside the Word of God will have to be seperated from God!
All TRUTH brought by God-appointed evangelist, pastor, teacher, prophet or apostle has to be accepted. Only then can the Word of God bring fruit to God's shed! Rejecting the TRUE GOSPEL and DOCTRINE of God, is the result of what is going on in CC.
When God's Word is accepted, UNITY, LOVE, PEACE, TRUTH, and HOLINESS is the result. A ONE BODY of HOLINESS, with CHRIST having the ONLY SAY is all hearts... But the rejection and the "I AM RIGHT" is much to evident in the posts. GOD IS RIGHT, and if we accept that TRUTH, we will be PERFECTLY ONE!
Then prohecies will be ABOUND and those prohecies will be judged and found in TRUTH and the WORD OF GOD WILL INCREASE.
I know God's men are still doing all HE WANTS DONE, because God works THROUGH them, I just doubt they would be appriciated here on CC. They know they will be persecuted here, and they scare not or fear not, but does God see it fit to have them speak here? I doubt it.
All TRUTH brought by God-appointed evangelist, pastor, teacher, prophet or apostle has to be accepted. Only then can the Word of God bring fruit to God's shed! Rejecting the TRUE GOSPEL and DOCTRINE of God, is the result of what is going on in CC.
When God's Word is accepted, UNITY, LOVE, PEACE, TRUTH, and HOLINESS is the result. A ONE BODY of HOLINESS, with CHRIST having the ONLY SAY is all hearts... But the rejection and the "I AM RIGHT" is much to evident in the posts. GOD IS RIGHT, and if we accept that TRUTH, we will be PERFECTLY ONE!
Then prohecies will be ABOUND and those prohecies will be judged and found in TRUTH and the WORD OF GOD WILL INCREASE.
I know God's men are still doing all HE WANTS DONE, because God works THROUGH them, I just doubt they would be appriciated here on CC. They know they will be persecuted here, and they scare not or fear not, but does God see it fit to have them speak here? I doubt it.
UMM Cobus,
That makes no sense what so ever. Didn't God send His prophets to the nation Israel to warn them while they were in rebellion to God? Did God hide John the Baptist? Didn't Jesus say that the prophets were killed in Jerusalem? If they were killed for their preaching,didn't God send them into the teeth of the storm,and unto the ungodly to warn them?
That makes no sense what so ever. Didn't God send His prophets to the nation Israel to warn them while they were in rebellion to God? Did God hide John the Baptist? Didn't Jesus say that the prophets were killed in Jerusalem? If they were killed for their preaching,didn't God send them into the teeth of the storm,and unto the ungodly to warn them?