What would Jesus say about evolution?
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2 Peter 3:8But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
John 3:8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
John 3:8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
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Christ would say what the Word said. God created all things............ It does not say anything evolved .. I rather take God's word at it... He is a God after all...
Luke 1:
26 And in the sixth month the angel """Gabriel was sent from God"""unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women........
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For with God nothing shall be impossible.
Luke 1:
26 And in the sixth month the angel """Gabriel was sent from God"""unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women........
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For with God nothing shall be impossible.
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Gen 1:5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 1:13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.
Gen 1:19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Gen 1:23 So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Gen 1:31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
seems like normal days to me........I'm satisfied with it, God is Truth, God cannot and will not lie, God is not into fairy tales, you cling to what you deem to be truth if that is what you want, as for me and my household...we shall believe what The Lord has said.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 1:13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.
Gen 1:19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Gen 1:23 So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Gen 1:31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
seems like normal days to me........I'm satisfied with it, God is Truth, God cannot and will not lie, God is not into fairy tales, you cling to what you deem to be truth if that is what you want, as for me and my household...we shall believe what The Lord has said.
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Actually I think its a very intelligent thing to ask, why are apes no loger evolving into primates. Ive ALWAYS found it musing that in this database Darwin created, he theoretically cam eto the conclusion that apes had been evolving into humans, however we hve NEVER encountered this in nature, anywhere, with ANY species being able to undergo a complete metamorphical change. Evolving over time to adapt to habitat chages is one thing, but saying we could undergo a complete metmorphical change, taking the new formation from a brain level of monkey 'parroting' into being able to think, and feel, and comprehend on the level of the human mind is totally different. I for one dont believe in bigfoot, and probably never will.
So, at some point BEFORE humans were made. Apes were evolving into humans, and at the point where humans were intelligent enough to realize they were evolving from apes, the apes decided to stop evolving, and the people who had 'evolved' continued procreating, and grew to where we are today. I have NEVER heard, nor seen record of apes evolving into humans, nor have a seen a human produced fro any lineage other than our fellow humans. Scientewst s have a taken a point in time before we know what had happened, and claim to be able to fill in the blanks. They dont know. THey are being PAID to figure out how to offer the perception of one of lifes greatest uestions. it pays a lot of oney, and I dont knowck them for it, but NONE of its seal proof.
So, at some point BEFORE humans were made. Apes were evolving into humans, and at the point where humans were intelligent enough to realize they were evolving from apes, the apes decided to stop evolving, and the people who had 'evolved' continued procreating, and grew to where we are today. I have NEVER heard, nor seen record of apes evolving into humans, nor have a seen a human produced fro any lineage other than our fellow humans. Scientewst s have a taken a point in time before we know what had happened, and claim to be able to fill in the blanks. They dont know. THey are being PAID to figure out how to offer the perception of one of lifes greatest uestions. it pays a lot of oney, and I dont knowck them for it, but NONE of its seal proof.
He already answered the question:
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The Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2He existed in the beginning with God.
3God created everything through him,
and nothing was created except through him.
4The Word gave life to everything that was created,
and his life brought light to everyone.
5The light shines in the darkness,
and the darkness can never extinguish it.
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The Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2He existed in the beginning with God.
3God created everything through him,
and nothing was created except through him.
4The Word gave life to everything that was created,
and his life brought light to everyone.
5The light shines in the darkness,
and the darkness can never extinguish it.
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Evolution and creation, from a scientific viewpoint are PARADIGMS.
That means that they are unprovable in a laboratory. They are both ways we think about things. I studied science for my undergrad in a secular university. I have a major in physical geography (biogeography) and I took a lot of biology, because I am interested in ecosystems. After my first year of science, I began to realize the paradigm for evolution did not stand any testing at all!
For instance, in geology I learned that geologists date rocks by the plants they find in them. Then I was off to biology, where I learned that the plants were dated by the age of the rocks they were in!! This kind of circular reasoning really set off some warning bells, and someone handed me a book on creation. I will say, it was MUCH more convincing than what I was taking in University. In my last years, my biogeography prof was a Christian, and although he was careful, it was obvious he did not believe that evolution was a workable model. So I talked to him about it, and he said that biogeography just had too much evidence which corresponded to Biblical creation, not evolution.
So I believed in creation. However, I had not yet met the creator!! It could have been Zeus or a pagan god in the jungle. That is when the testimony and witness of Christians came into my life. When I believed in Jesus, the pieces of the puzzle fit perfectly, and I have never gone back to the very poor model of origins called evolution!
- A typical example or pattern of something; a model.
- A worldview underlying the theories and methodology of a particular scientific subject."
That means that they are unprovable in a laboratory. They are both ways we think about things. I studied science for my undergrad in a secular university. I have a major in physical geography (biogeography) and I took a lot of biology, because I am interested in ecosystems. After my first year of science, I began to realize the paradigm for evolution did not stand any testing at all!
For instance, in geology I learned that geologists date rocks by the plants they find in them. Then I was off to biology, where I learned that the plants were dated by the age of the rocks they were in!! This kind of circular reasoning really set off some warning bells, and someone handed me a book on creation. I will say, it was MUCH more convincing than what I was taking in University. In my last years, my biogeography prof was a Christian, and although he was careful, it was obvious he did not believe that evolution was a workable model. So I talked to him about it, and he said that biogeography just had too much evidence which corresponded to Biblical creation, not evolution.
So I believed in creation. However, I had not yet met the creator!! It could have been Zeus or a pagan god in the jungle. That is when the testimony and witness of Christians came into my life. When I believed in Jesus, the pieces of the puzzle fit perfectly, and I have never gone back to the very poor model of origins called evolution!
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The idea that the laryngeal nerve is a good design is absurd. The route a humans laryngeal nerve takes is a mere several inches even though those several inches are still considered an unnecessary detour. In a giraffe it is 15 feet in the adult. I recommend watching Richard Dawkins and a team of comparative anatomists and veterinary pathologists dissecting a giraffe, it is on youtube. The nerve actually passes within inches of its destination which is the larynx then it proceeds down the entire giraffes neck loops and comes back up. That is a nonsensical design for an animal. It looks absolutely silly and uneducated to try and claim it is good design when we are examples of a minor version of the detour. The correction would not cause any bad side effects. There is no benefit now.
If you accept the large body of scientific work which supports the theory of evolution the issue can be explained and presented in a logical fashion. For a creationist it is an issue which they must try explain or ignore as most of them do.
If you accept the large body of scientific work which supports the theory of evolution the issue can be explained and presented in a logical fashion. For a creationist it is an issue which they must try explain or ignore as most of them do.