Are muslims really worshiping satan?
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They're not serving God if they're doing those things.
Just as Christians terrorists aren't serving God when they do their own evil actions.
Allah is an interpretation of the omnipotent singular God that created the universe. Now, this interpretation looks little like the God revealed in Jesus, and since Jesus is our revelation of God, then we can say with certainty that the Muslim conception of God is inaccurate.
But that doesn't mean that no Muslims do the will of God. It just means they're doing it in spite of their Prophet, not because of him.
Just as Christians terrorists aren't serving God when they do their own evil actions.
Allah is an interpretation of the omnipotent singular God that created the universe. Now, this interpretation looks little like the God revealed in Jesus, and since Jesus is our revelation of God, then we can say with certainty that the Muslim conception of God is inaccurate.
But that doesn't mean that no Muslims do the will of God. It just means they're doing it in spite of their Prophet, not because of him.
What I am saying is that God is no respecter of persons, and if Muslims turn to God they to can be saved, they have to read the bible. but when god talks about the nations of those who will be converted in the last days they are the ones the verse is talking of. Camel drivers are mostly muslim in a sense. They to will be saved is what it is saying. So do God's will and do not hate your neighbor but wish for him also, salavation.
(Isa 60:1) Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.
(Isa 60:2) For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
(Isa 60:3) And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
(Isa 60:4) Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at [thy] side.
(Isa 60:5) Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
Then the rest of the story as I said before.
(Isa 60:1) Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.
(Isa 60:2) For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
(Isa 60:3) And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
(Isa 60:4) Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at [thy] side.
(Isa 60:5) Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
Then the rest of the story as I said before.
In the Old Testament it was said that the nations that conquered the kingdoms of Israel were doing the will of God. They were punishing, unwittingly, the failures of the Hebrew people. By the same logic, a Muslim who does great humanitarian work because Mohamed commanded it is still doing that which God wants, even if they are not consciously aware of it.
I believe that if such a person is truly seeking God's will, God will lead them in the right direction no matter what faith they were born into.
I believe that if such a person is truly seeking God's will, God will lead them in the right direction no matter what faith they were born into.
W
Mohammed thought, like many of the greek philosophers and great jewish teachers, that god was too complex to be explained by a mere human. I think that is a very humble approach to the divine that is still used by a lot of jews and muslims, but many christians claim to know a lot about god, his plans and nature. Is it strange that the other followers of abraham find christianity a bit arrogant? If god indeed exists, who are we to claim we know everything about him?
Muslims think of Jesus as a great prophet and holy man, but they find the thought of him being gods son quite blasphemous. This is actually in line with the beliefs of some of the first christians, the gnostics. Muhammad thought that god revealed himself in different ways, in different times to different people. I am sure that your idea of god is not the exact same as your friends and family, maybe the creed is the same, but not the inner picture.
About islam being intolerant and discriminating.
When christianity was born most followers were slaves, women and other low status people. Then it changed, women weren't allowed to teach, they had to cover theur hair etc. This was not because god wanted it. It was because powerful men took over the church.
The same thing happened to islam. Did you know that muhammed gave women the right to inherit, the right to ownership and other privileges? The muslim women had rights 1300 years ago that christian women didn't get until the 19th century. The practices of wearing burkas and oppressing women are cultural practices, not religious.
So what is my point? I think christianity has some great points, the solidarity with the weak etc. Islam similar techings, like giving to the poor and protecting fatherless children. Both religions can be very tolerant and generous, but they are fragile and easily corrupted by greed and love for power.
Muslims think of Jesus as a great prophet and holy man, but they find the thought of him being gods son quite blasphemous. This is actually in line with the beliefs of some of the first christians, the gnostics. Muhammad thought that god revealed himself in different ways, in different times to different people. I am sure that your idea of god is not the exact same as your friends and family, maybe the creed is the same, but not the inner picture.
About islam being intolerant and discriminating.
When christianity was born most followers were slaves, women and other low status people. Then it changed, women weren't allowed to teach, they had to cover theur hair etc. This was not because god wanted it. It was because powerful men took over the church.
The same thing happened to islam. Did you know that muhammed gave women the right to inherit, the right to ownership and other privileges? The muslim women had rights 1300 years ago that christian women didn't get until the 19th century. The practices of wearing burkas and oppressing women are cultural practices, not religious.
So what is my point? I think christianity has some great points, the solidarity with the weak etc. Islam similar techings, like giving to the poor and protecting fatherless children. Both religions can be very tolerant and generous, but they are fragile and easily corrupted by greed and love for power.
Let me ask you, did the men of Ninevah believe in Christ?
(Mt 12:41) The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas [is] here.
You need to stop judging other nations , you are not God
(Mt 12:41) The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas [is] here.
You need to stop judging other nations , you are not God
You are right about that, but what about the Catholic church, and the Protestrant Evangelical church with homosexual bishops. It may be the hierarchy that feels that way, but not all of its members have to agree. And that is why there are many splits in the denominations today. Love your neighbor and stop trying to condemn them for you are not God either, If the bible declares that will come into the kingdom of heaven as if only a remnant then they will come in.
L
Honestly. This is all so stupid. You are all forgetting the most important thing. God is ALL MIGHTY, Omnipotent, all encompassing and everywhere, he knows what you think, when you've been naughty and when you've been nice.
If there is only one god. Then no matter which god you pray to you are going to end up praying to that one god. And if not even the four evangeliums (correct english?) can agree on what Jesus said when the witnesses WERE ALL THERE WATCHING. How in the all-mighty gods name do any of you come off accussing one side of being wrong, do you claim to have superiour knowledge to the ones that were personal friends with your saviour. The ones who were asked to continue the his faith, to spread his word?
Muslims worship the one god. Yes, they do not see christ as an aspect of god and neither do the jews, but did Jesus forsake the jews? Did Jesus say that the jews were beyond salvation. Obivously not as the christian faith was founded a whole lot later by men in rome coming to terms with the relationship between Jesus, God and the Holy spirit.
And if the ALL-MIGHTY, the OMNIPOTENT god can take the form of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Why would prayer directed to just one form be wrong? It's the same god and to claim anything else is to deny gods Omnipotence and admit that there can possibly be other gods which if I remember correctly is quite heritical to a christian.
I'd like to say shame on you all who accuse the muslims or any other religion because you are forgetting the most important part. There is only one god and he is our shield and protector whether we call him God, Allah, The Immortal-Emperor of Mankind, Fluffy the destroyer of worlds or Santa Claus. God and God alone will judge if your faith is worthy, Do not be arrogant enough to believe that you are the judge, jury or executioner.
If there is only one god. Then no matter which god you pray to you are going to end up praying to that one god. And if not even the four evangeliums (correct english?) can agree on what Jesus said when the witnesses WERE ALL THERE WATCHING. How in the all-mighty gods name do any of you come off accussing one side of being wrong, do you claim to have superiour knowledge to the ones that were personal friends with your saviour. The ones who were asked to continue the his faith, to spread his word?
Muslims worship the one god. Yes, they do not see christ as an aspect of god and neither do the jews, but did Jesus forsake the jews? Did Jesus say that the jews were beyond salvation. Obivously not as the christian faith was founded a whole lot later by men in rome coming to terms with the relationship between Jesus, God and the Holy spirit.
And if the ALL-MIGHTY, the OMNIPOTENT god can take the form of Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Why would prayer directed to just one form be wrong? It's the same god and to claim anything else is to deny gods Omnipotence and admit that there can possibly be other gods which if I remember correctly is quite heritical to a christian.
I'd like to say shame on you all who accuse the muslims or any other religion because you are forgetting the most important part. There is only one god and he is our shield and protector whether we call him God, Allah, The Immortal-Emperor of Mankind, Fluffy the destroyer of worlds or Santa Claus. God and God alone will judge if your faith is worthy, Do not be arrogant enough to believe that you are the judge, jury or executioner.
It is a long story that cannot be said in a few words, but I'll give you one quick solution among many others.
Starting at 2 Peter 3:3-12. bUt speaking of the days of Noah god says in the verses(2Pet 3:8) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
If we go back to Noah God tells us that HE gave noah 7 days before the flood waters were to come. So you take 7 days x1000, and you get 7000. The flood waters came on the earth 6000 years after creation in the year 4990 B C. on May 21st of our calendar date. If you add 7000 to 6000 you get May 21 ,2011. Exactly 13000 years to the day.
(Gen 7:10) And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.
(Gen 7:11) In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
It is the timing of God.
Starting at 2 Peter 3:3-12. bUt speaking of the days of Noah god says in the verses(2Pet 3:8) But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
If we go back to Noah God tells us that HE gave noah 7 days before the flood waters were to come. So you take 7 days x1000, and you get 7000. The flood waters came on the earth 6000 years after creation in the year 4990 B C. on May 21st of our calendar date. If you add 7000 to 6000 you get May 21 ,2011. Exactly 13000 years to the day.
(Gen 7:10) And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth.
(Gen 7:11) In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
It is the timing of God.
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