O, Galatians, why the Judaizers avoid you so?
I would say because they do not understand what is written.
O, Galatians, why the Judaizers avoid you so?
We are changed. 2 Cor 5:17 The law is not changed. The law is a standard that only One man ever attained to. Those who are the Lord's do not need the law neither are they offended by the law because God has given them a new nature to serve in Spirit and Truth. We are made the righteousness of God in Christ. 2Cor 5:21 We do not discount the law but we do not serve the law. We serve our Christ Who is not to be discounted.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?
15If ye love me, keep my commandments.16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
How silly of you to believe we recieve our reward at our conversion. "Behold, I come quickly, My reward is with Me." Hmmm,,
Jesus says we get the reward when He comes, cause He has it with Him.
What you have, is the Promise of eternal life. You have not put on "immortality" yet. That becomes a reality when at the appearance of Jesus...
When Jesus said "they will never perish",, He wasn't refering to the first death (it is appointed for man to die once). Jesus was referring to the 2nd Death. If you go around claiming your belief, you make Jesus to be a liar. For we all grow old and eventually die. So, all can see your claim doesn't hold water.
If you read Galatians chapter 2 it is clear it is referring to Acts 15. So reading the context it is not saying the law is done away with only we are not saved by keeping the law.
Galatians 3:6-9 KJV
(6) Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
(7) Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
(8) And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
(9) So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
Notice these texts tell us that Abraham was made righteous by faith and that we are to be made righteous by faith not by works of the law but, it also says this about Abraham.
Genesis 26:5 KJV
(5) Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Abraham kept God's law but not to be made righteous. So then since we are to be made righteous by faith in the same way that Abraham was as the text says then the result will be we will keep God's law.
People love to make the statements about folks that think they can get to heaven without Jesus and by keeping the law. We hear alot of people saying that the law is impossible to keep.
I am over 50. I have never met anybody that claims they keep the law of God because that will earn them heaven. I only hear folks claiming these people exist. I've never met one.
I actually don't believe that any Christian thinks they can earn heaven. I know of nobody that makes that claim. Nobody. Again,, I only hear that these people exist from other believers.
Who here says, we can't keep Gods Commandments? I will be first to tell you that you are wrong.
Do you steal everytime you go to ther store? Do you murder & rape without control? Are you compelled to wake your parents up and cuss them out? Do you constantly desire your neighbors stuff? NO, No , No and No!
If we can't keep the Law and you have children,,,, dont you see that it is only a matter of time before you rape and murder your own children?????
And if you don't rape them,, why would you get a babysitter for your children, knowing full well they can't keep the law and that they will rape your kids????
Folks,, we can keep the Law. We can obey God.
A baby falls when it learns to walk. Who here tells the baby, to "stay down, you will only fall again,,no sense trying to walk."
This is exactly what you are teaching when you claim we can't keep the law.
We go and get married and take vows in front of both men and God. Why take vows, if you believe you can't keep them.
Christians don't make any sense when they make these false claims.
Then do it in full, every jot and tittle of it, just like Jesus did. Do so or else admit you are sinner, in need of God's forgiveness. End of story.Folks,, we can keep the Law.
Your on deaf ears again but ever so refreshing to hear it. Even a baby in Christ knows this from day one. But some are very learned and have impressive educations and cvs and still won't get this....If I only commit 1 sin on any given day (I am being lighthearted here, I do not think even this is possible) I have failed to keep the law on that day. When I go to bed that night, I am worthy of eternal condemnation for my actions on that day because I failed to keep the law.
This is why we need grace!
I implore people to not be deceived by this debate of "law versus grace" which is presented within a paradigm of "unmerited favour" versus "saving oneself."
Your on deaf ears again but ever so refreshing to hear it. Even a baby in Christ knows this from day one. But some are very learned and have impressive educations and cvs and still won't get this.
You have not been here long yet have you?? there are many in here!
So John is wrong? if you believe this, you do not yet fully understand the law. If you did, you would not make such a claim!
This is a miniscule part of the law. People who claim sinless perfection after a point in their life always refer to these sins, There are SO SO many other things which are sins. The pharisees made the claim of perfection and obeying the law. because they too only concentrated on these overt sins which are known and popular. In doing so they could not see the sin they commit, And so called christians who do this also can not see the sin they still continue on a daily basis.. Paul did not think he made it, why do you think you can, or have?
ok. This makes no sense at all. can you please explain? Why would the inability to keep the law mean one will rape someone? rape is only one aspect of the law. We can never rape anyone or commit any sexual sin until the day we die, and we have still broken the law in some fashion with other sins.
No one is teaching you can't keep the law and be righteous. They teach
1. Of our own power (the flesh) we can't keep it
2. We will never achieve sinless perfection while on this earth
3. We will have the need to continue to grow, to continue to as paul says "run the race" until the day we die
4. if we think we already made it, we are in dire straights, and in serious danger!
Instead of slamming people. try to understand what they are trying to say. Nothing you said (to be honest) makes any sense.. No one I know claims what you say they claim..
here is the point. If I only commit 1 sin on any given day (I am being lighthearted here, I do not think even this is possible) I have failed to keep the law on that day. When I go to bed that night, I am worthy of eternal condemnation for my actions on that day because I failed to keep the law.
This is why we need grace!
So they justify themselves in their pride. Not yet being convicted of what sin is. Still establishing their own righteousness and refusing the gospel of peace. Terrible.it is because they do not understand completely what is sin.. They commit sins they do not understand are sins, or have hardened their hearts to the fact they are sins because they do not commit the really "big" sins we all like to think of..
And because you think that way.. Stay away from children,, Cause under your theory, you are bound to rape them.
Faith versus the Law is not complicated.
One can obey "thou shalt not kill" and yet remain hateful within. Thus obeying a listed law does not make one righteousness. It is for this reason that Paul teaches that righteousness is not by the law.
Faith on the other hand WORKS BY LOVE and it is love that fulfills the righteousness of the law. If one truly loves they do not need a listed law stating "thou shalt not kill" for "love works no ill."
This is why Jesus said love is the greatest commandment and that all the law and the prophets is established on love.
So many people err in thinking that "grace" means "unconditional pardon" and thus view that one can be declared righteous by God apart from a "faith that works by love." There is no justification in God's sight apart from a "faith that works by love" for it is via abiding in the Spirit of life in Jesus Christ (walking according to the Spirit having crucified the old man) that we can indeed have the love of God perfected in us whereby we take hold and manifest a genuine faith that works by love.
It is for this reason that love does not rejoice in iniquity but rather deplores all unrighteousness. Those who are truly Christ's will manifest the fruit of the Spirit in their lives and thus be known by their fruit.
We are to have our eyes singly fixates on Jesus Christ and abide in His light whereby we are made alive in Him. It is through this connection with our Creator that our hearts are made clean and thus we being created in Jesus Christ are useful for the Father's work.
I implore people to not be deceived by this debate of "law versus grace" which is presented within a paradigm of "unmerited favour" versus "saving oneself."
The law is only done away within the context of love fulfilling the righteousness of the law, whereby the change is from external governance (law) to internal governance (pure heart). Thus we are dead to the law by the body of Christ in that we serve Him in spirit and in truth.