The Homosexual Threat
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are you sure it is only 60% hmm!!!!! puberty is very controlling from the first day it strikes, and is worse for some than others yet all are attacked with this and might be why God said for us to humble ourselves as a child. before puberty struck and the fight began between Flesh and the Spirit of God. So is it to deny flesh or to reckon oneself dead to flesh and alive to God. Flesh and sin do go hand in hand do they not
[h=3]Romans 8:3[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,
Are we not called to be alive in the Spirit of God where no sin can occur since all sin has been condemned to the flesh as posted above?
[h=3]Romans 8:3[/h]New International Version (NIV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,
Are we not called to be alive in the Spirit of God where no sin can occur since all sin has been condemned to the flesh as posted above?
J
GOD is omnipresent.... everywhere at once. HE sees and knows all. Even every dirty thing we do in bed.
For a statement as the one you just said to be true is to take away GOD's omnipresent SPIRIT of the entire universe!!!
As far as Cain and Abel, yes GOD knew already what happened, HE was giving Cain a chance to come forward with his sin, which he didn't.
For a statement as the one you just said to be true is to take away GOD's omnipresent SPIRIT of the entire universe!!!
As far as Cain and Abel, yes GOD knew already what happened, HE was giving Cain a chance to come forward with his sin, which he didn't.
God doesn't see our sins, but when the time of judgement comes, He will listen to our accuser to find out what had happen while we were on earth. So the best thing to do is to be blameless, and which means that you have sin without hurting anyone. All God want us to love Him so deeply from your heart but in order to be able to do that is that you had let Him in your heart and dwelt with Him that you became accustom to His presence like a child that is accustom to their parents. But then you also have to love your neighbor without causing any harm to them, and if they cause harm to you, grant them mercy all the time so that they can't unveil your nakedness to God.
Genesis 3:12The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
Genesis 3:13Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
Job 31:35(“Oh, that I had someone to hear me! I sign now my defense—let the Almighty answer me; let my accuser put his indictment in writing.
Isaiah 50:8He who vindicates me is near. Who then will bring charges against me? Let us face each other! Who is my accuser? Let him confront me!
John 5:45“But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set.
Job 9:33
If only there were someone to mediate between us, someone to bring us together,
1 Timothy 2:5For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
So it is best to hadle things in a rightful manner.
Matthew 18:10[ The Parable of the Wandering Sheep ] “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.
Matthew 18:6[ Causing to Stumble ] “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Genesis 3:12The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
Genesis 3:13Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
Job 31:35(“Oh, that I had someone to hear me! I sign now my defense—let the Almighty answer me; let my accuser put his indictment in writing.
Isaiah 50:8He who vindicates me is near. Who then will bring charges against me? Let us face each other! Who is my accuser? Let him confront me!
John 5:45“But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set.
Job 9:33
If only there were someone to mediate between us, someone to bring us together,
1 Timothy 2:5For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
So it is best to hadle things in a rightful manner.
Matthew 18:10[ The Parable of the Wandering Sheep ] “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.
Matthew 18:6[ Causing to Stumble ] “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
J
John 21:22 Jesus answered, "if I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? you must follow Me." this scripture spoken by our Lord demonstrates that what we do as His follower's is not to depend on what other believer's do. each one stands or falls on his own personal relationship with Jesus. Jesus basically told peter to mind his own business when he asked about john. two wrongs don't make a right as the saying goes but going even further ..... what someone else is doing right doesn't get added to your account. we have to find a way to cut the conversation off at the point it becomes an argument. belittling each other is destructive. that is the devil's work. our authority is for building one another up. the right way to do this is to give our perspective and then agree to disagree. the operative word here is free choice. we don't have the right to bully people into our way of thinking even while standing our ground.
A
Brethren
Why judge another brother from your dislike of the judgment that may be from the Lord Jesus and no doubt from His word that comes from their heart, judgment begins in the House of the Lord By Him and also by His servants. If we are wronged by a brother then we judge or determine it by our own hearts being hurt or offended and take it to the church and if a brother refuses then they are judged so they may repent this is good and the offering is for salvation, Yes we are placed in a position to judge angels. Yes, Paul by the Holy Spirit judged many activities and wrongful treatment in the church (actions that were not done in the love agape of the Lord Jesus). Even had the power to execute rebuke and handing satan over to them.Other apostles also judged(peter, james John, Jude) and reproved and preached against and wrote against this sin and all others both to those who were without and those that were in the body of Christ. Let us not prevent or stop or judge another brother that could be moved by the Holy Spirit to speak of the forewarning judgment of God on our sins as well as those who are without or outside the body of Jesus Christ for their sins. Do I(we) not respect the word and do I(we) not respect Jesus' Holy Spirit in another brother who may be moved by the Holy Spirit for the conviction of sins to preach or to teach or to evangelize. Respect to the Holy Spirit moving through my brother for the conviction of souls unto repentance unto salvation. Why bite and judge and devour each other our brothers and sisters that present the word some in preaching some in entreaty(Jude also wrote in a preachy way about these and other sins and the Lord's ultimate rejection judgment and about the complete two sides of the sword verse 21-23) if it is not your side of the sword of the spirit then complete it with out hating it or being offended or disagreeing with it. The word of the Lord is a two edged sword one side cuts the other heals one side judges the other extends a hand to repent to contend to fight for faith one has a hand that is gentle one reject sins harshly so others may accept the choice we have to escape. Do not oppose our own gifts and brothers that have these gift the body can not be the same each has their abilities and place do not hate the functions of all or any of the body of Jesus in our brothers and sisters who are giving from the Holy Spirit through them, now the Lord will appraise all of our word and works at our bema seat judgment whether the Holy Spirit flowed through us and them. Until then accept the function appreciate the function of each of our brothers and sisters as they are unique and have their gifting and calling. If you are different then in real ministry provide the complimentary side of the sword of the Holy Spirit you have.
Why judge another brother from your dislike of the judgment that may be from the Lord Jesus and no doubt from His word that comes from their heart, judgment begins in the House of the Lord By Him and also by His servants. If we are wronged by a brother then we judge or determine it by our own hearts being hurt or offended and take it to the church and if a brother refuses then they are judged so they may repent this is good and the offering is for salvation, Yes we are placed in a position to judge angels. Yes, Paul by the Holy Spirit judged many activities and wrongful treatment in the church (actions that were not done in the love agape of the Lord Jesus). Even had the power to execute rebuke and handing satan over to them.Other apostles also judged(peter, james John, Jude) and reproved and preached against and wrote against this sin and all others both to those who were without and those that were in the body of Christ. Let us not prevent or stop or judge another brother that could be moved by the Holy Spirit to speak of the forewarning judgment of God on our sins as well as those who are without or outside the body of Jesus Christ for their sins. Do I(we) not respect the word and do I(we) not respect Jesus' Holy Spirit in another brother who may be moved by the Holy Spirit for the conviction of sins to preach or to teach or to evangelize. Respect to the Holy Spirit moving through my brother for the conviction of souls unto repentance unto salvation. Why bite and judge and devour each other our brothers and sisters that present the word some in preaching some in entreaty(Jude also wrote in a preachy way about these and other sins and the Lord's ultimate rejection judgment and about the complete two sides of the sword verse 21-23) if it is not your side of the sword of the spirit then complete it with out hating it or being offended or disagreeing with it. The word of the Lord is a two edged sword one side cuts the other heals one side judges the other extends a hand to repent to contend to fight for faith one has a hand that is gentle one reject sins harshly so others may accept the choice we have to escape. Do not oppose our own gifts and brothers that have these gift the body can not be the same each has their abilities and place do not hate the functions of all or any of the body of Jesus in our brothers and sisters who are giving from the Holy Spirit through them, now the Lord will appraise all of our word and works at our bema seat judgment whether the Holy Spirit flowed through us and them. Until then accept the function appreciate the function of each of our brothers and sisters as they are unique and have their gifting and calling. If you are different then in real ministry provide the complimentary side of the sword of the Holy Spirit you have.
G
To the degree that those who know the truth uphold that truth - the weave of the fabric remains intact.
To the degree that those who know the truth compromise that truth - by accepting evil - the fabric unravels...
Eventually, no fabric remains and evil is rampant.
I am pretty sure there is a bible verse that states something very similar to what I wrote in the first two lines; however, right now I am not sure where it is. ( Somewhere in Proverbs, perhaps? )
So - instead - let me offer this famous quote:
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke
To the degree that those who know the truth compromise that truth - by accepting evil - the fabric unravels...
Eventually, no fabric remains and evil is rampant.
I am pretty sure there is a bible verse that states something very similar to what I wrote in the first two lines; however, right now I am not sure where it is. ( Somewhere in Proverbs, perhaps? )
So - instead - let me offer this famous quote:
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke
G
And I am quite sure that you have been decieved by Satan's manipulation of the modern-day definitions of words...
( "You know that he is changing them just as fast as he can - right?" )
I am using the biblical definition - which I am quite sure has not changed in a very long time -- way before I was even born --- much more way before you were even born...
However - just in case we older folks missed something all this time that the younger generations have suddenly discovered the truth about -- why don't you tell us all just exactly what sodomy is and is not --- and just exactly how it is and is not related to "the gay thing"...
( "You know that he is changing them just as fast as he can - right?" )
I am using the biblical definition - which I am quite sure has not changed in a very long time -- way before I was even born --- much more way before you were even born...
However - just in case we older folks missed something all this time that the younger generations have suddenly discovered the truth about -- why don't you tell us all just exactly what sodomy is and is not --- and just exactly how it is and is not related to "the gay thing"...
And I am quite sure that you have been decieved by Satan's manipulation of the modern-day definitions of words...
( "You know that he is changing them just as fast as he can - right?" )
I am using the biblical definition - which I am quite sure has not changed in a very long time -- way before I was even born --- much more way before you were even born...
However - just in case we older folks missed something all this time that the younger generations have suddenly discovered the truth about -- why don't you tell us all just exactly what sodomy is and is not --- and just exactly how it is and is not related to "the gay thing"...
( "You know that he is changing them just as fast as he can - right?" )
I am using the biblical definition - which I am quite sure has not changed in a very long time -- way before I was even born --- much more way before you were even born...
However - just in case we older folks missed something all this time that the younger generations have suddenly discovered the truth about -- why don't you tell us all just exactly what sodomy is and is not --- and just exactly how it is and is not related to "the gay thing"...
Matthew 19:9I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
1 Corinthians 7
15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
Romans 7:2For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him.
1 Corinthians 7
15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
Romans 7:2For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him.
G
Like I said before ---- you have been decieved by Satan's manipulation of the modern-day definitions of words...
What you have said [above] is based on a modern - changed - definition -- which I believe is intended to create chaos and confusion - to attempt to cause people to disregard what the Bible says about it. ( The Bible says that [ all ] sodomy is a sin. )
Yes - a man can commit sodomy with a woman. And, because of that - it can be said that sodomy is not strictly a "gay thing"; however, you would be hard-pressed to convince me that sodomy is not the "distinguishing characteristic" of a "gay relationship"...
By definition - because of the specific nature of the activity - at least one man is always involved. And, by definition - the "receiving body part" ( male or female ) is always the same. Oral is not included.
This is the true definition of sodomy ( 'Anal' ). And, if you go back in time far enough - or examine the Bible closely enough - you will discover this to be the truth.
You may not presently agree with this - but - sometime between now and Judgment Day - you will.
It is not my intent to argue the point - so - we can simply "agree to disagree agreeably"...
What you have said [above] is based on a modern - changed - definition -- which I believe is intended to create chaos and confusion - to attempt to cause people to disregard what the Bible says about it. ( The Bible says that [ all ] sodomy is a sin. )
Yes - a man can commit sodomy with a woman. And, because of that - it can be said that sodomy is not strictly a "gay thing"; however, you would be hard-pressed to convince me that sodomy is not the "distinguishing characteristic" of a "gay relationship"...
By definition - because of the specific nature of the activity - at least one man is always involved. And, by definition - the "receiving body part" ( male or female ) is always the same. Oral is not included.
This is the true definition of sodomy ( 'Anal' ). And, if you go back in time far enough - or examine the Bible closely enough - you will discover this to be the truth.
You may not presently agree with this - but - sometime between now and Judgment Day - you will.
It is not my intent to argue the point - so - we can simply "agree to disagree agreeably"...
No, I'm trying to say is that God practices what he preaches, He isn't a hypocrite that tell people what is right but doesn't follow His own advice. Ham was cursed for uncovering his father's nakedness by telling his brothers what he had witness. It has became so natural for us to uncover someone nakedness that we do it all time (Like the Jerry Springer show). But in God's eyesite that is unnatural. But I do believe that God is capable being in everyone and everything at once and we are all connected as the way the panentheist believe that we all are connected. Everything and beings that has life, has God in them. We can't comprehend it because we has human limitations that is blinding us from the true reality. So God can block out certain things at will as the way He can block those that are permanently castaway from his sight.
Like I said before ---- you have been decieved by Satan's manipulation of the modern-day definitions of words...
What you have said [above] is based on a modern - changed - definition -- which I believe is intended to create chaos and confusion - to attempt to cause people to disregard what the Bible says about it. ( The Bible says that [ all ] sodomy is a sin. )
Yes - a man can commit sodomy with a woman. And, because of that - it can be said that sodomy is not strictly a "gay thing"; however, you would be hard-pressed to convince me that sodomy is not the "distinguishing characteristic" of a "gay relationship"...
By definition - because of the specific nature of the activity - at least one man is always involved. And, by definition - the "receiving body part" ( male or female ) is always the same. Oral is not included.
This is the true definition of sodomy ( 'Anal' ). And, if you go back in time far enough - or examine the Bible closely enough - you will discover this to be the truth.
You may not presently agree with this - but - sometime between now and Judgment Day - you will.
It is not my intent to argue the point - so - we can simply "agree to disagree agreeably"...
What you have said [above] is based on a modern - changed - definition -- which I believe is intended to create chaos and confusion - to attempt to cause people to disregard what the Bible says about it. ( The Bible says that [ all ] sodomy is a sin. )
Yes - a man can commit sodomy with a woman. And, because of that - it can be said that sodomy is not strictly a "gay thing"; however, you would be hard-pressed to convince me that sodomy is not the "distinguishing characteristic" of a "gay relationship"...
By definition - because of the specific nature of the activity - at least one man is always involved. And, by definition - the "receiving body part" ( male or female ) is always the same. Oral is not included.
This is the true definition of sodomy ( 'Anal' ). And, if you go back in time far enough - or examine the Bible closely enough - you will discover this to be the truth.
You may not presently agree with this - but - sometime between now and Judgment Day - you will.
It is not my intent to argue the point - so - we can simply "agree to disagree agreeably"...