gal 3:10-12 to those who keep looking law ward.
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I hope you've noticed throughout this discussion how those who try to read scripture in physical terms always fail to explain away how scripture contradicts the doctrine to propose.
Perhaps it's time to consider scripture as it was intended...spiritually.
How do you handle this vs?...
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
(2Co 5:10)[/QUOTE]
Good = Believe in Jesus.
Bad = Unbelief in Jesus.
Perhaps it's time to consider scripture as it was intended...spiritually.
How do you handle this vs?...
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
(2Co 5:10)[/QUOTE]
Good = Believe in Jesus.
Bad = Unbelief in Jesus.
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We see Christians with that fruit being Christ the firstfruits, 1Cor 15:20, as we believe in Jesus.
And note Rom 11:16
if the firstfruit (Christ in us) is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches
Yes, we have to give an account to God whether we believed in Jesus or not.
Therefore we should not judge anyones righteousness by deeds of the law.
Also we should never preach doctrines of deeds of the law to prove righteousness, as that would be putting a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in our brother's way.
And note Rom 11:16
if the firstfruit (Christ in us) is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches
Yes, we have to give an account to God whether we believed in Jesus or not.
Therefore we should not judge anyones righteousness by deeds of the law.
Also we should never preach doctrines of deeds of the law to prove righteousness, as that would be putting a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in our brother's way.
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You mean those in your cult?
Your charge of being in a cult is unfounded.
I suggest you concentrate on studying scripture to try to find a way to support your doctrine, if you can. That's more constructive than throwing false allegations.
Such labeling is merely a put down tactic that shows that one has run out of ways to support their own doctrine from scripture. Again I suggest studying scripture to try to understand why it contradicts your reading it in physical terms only.
Iniquity is doctrines of fornication with Hagar/works of the law/unbelief.
Christians however believe in Jesus, thus obeying God's will, John 6:40.
I'll continue later as I'm out of time and have to go to work.
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Okay, how exactly do you commit spiritual adultery, fornication, lasciviousness, drunkenness, revellings, etc.?
Sexual immorality I've already explained as relating to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness, Gal 4:25.
Lasciviousness is likewise referring to lust for fornication with Hagar/works of the law.
For drunkeness, consider the following which also points to fornication with Hagar/works of the law.
Rev 17:2
And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
And revellings also refers to revelling in fornication with Hagar/works of the law.
That's quite an extreme example of what it is to get drunk. If that is what you think Gal 5 refers to then we'd be seeing mass rapes worldwide, every evening, from the many people who get drunken every night.
But we all know the reality is that getting drunk does not then imply that rape automatically follows.
I suggest looking to scripture to find out what God describes as drunkenness.
again, I refer you to Rev 17:2.
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Matt 7:21 says that "he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven" will enter the kingdom of heaven.
What is God's will?
John 6:40
this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day
Matt 7 is consistent with what I wrote in post #624.
When we believe in Jesus (which is God's will) we have Christ the firstfruits (1Cor 15:20) which makes us holy (Rom 11:16).
According to "The Haz James Bible":
Fornication = relates to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness
Lasciviousness = relates to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness
Drunkenness = relates to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness
Revellings = relates to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness
Homosexuality = relates to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness
Idolatry = relates to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness
Extortion = relates to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness
Covetousness = relates to Hagar/being under the law for righteousness
...
Therefore these all pertain to fornicating with Hagar/being under the law for righteousness while the ACTUAL acts aren't sins, correct, Haz: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God" (1Cor. 6:9-10). When Jesus said "whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart", did He also mean fornicating with Hagar?
Oh this is just silly. You're pretty good at creating fairy tales.
I hope you know though that it is wrong to distort the Sacred Word of God.
I've also noticed that you contradict yourself.
1. First you say Christians can sin by going under the law,
2. Then you say Christians cannot sin (essentially a permanent state of sinless perfection)
Which is it, Haz? Do Christians have the ability to sin or not?
Haz, why do you answer questions ambiguously?
1. Is it proper behaviour to get intoxicated with alcohol, rape a woman, beat up your wife and children, etc?
Yes __
No __
2. Are there any absolute/universal moral principles?
[h=3]2 Corinthians 5:21[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
The way it is written with the word might, makes me wonder and creates doubt. And anything with doubt stops one from knowing 100% truth when in fact that word might shopuld not be there just as in john 3:16 it is not
[h=3]John 3:16[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
[h=3]John 3:16[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
So I know I believe and I know through belief, God has shown me his love, and I know my response in thankfulness is just loving others, all others in the same way I see that God just love me.
So how deep does each one of our love for God go? Does it ever go any deeper that what we think that God love us?
What I am trying to say is, the deeper one sees God's love for them, the deeper one will love back yes?
1 John 4:19
We love each other because he loved us first.
So how deep you all?
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
The way it is written with the word might, makes me wonder and creates doubt. And anything with doubt stops one from knowing 100% truth when in fact that word might shopuld not be there just as in john 3:16 it is not
[h=3]John 3:16[/h]King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
[h=3]John 3:16[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]“For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
So I know I believe and I know through belief, God has shown me his love, and I know my response in thankfulness is just loving others, all others in the same way I see that God just love me.
So how deep does each one of our love for God go? Does it ever go any deeper that what we think that God love us?
What I am trying to say is, the deeper one sees God's love for them, the deeper one will love back yes?
1 John 4:19
We love each other because he loved us first.
So how deep you all?
thanks crossnote, I appreciate you
I see it as the greatest commandments of Love and Love is the fulfillment of all Law and this Love of God extends to all people, treating all the same as God does, has through the cross
What is wroitten on my heart is LOVE.
L= ord
O= ver
V= iolence
E= ternally
God took it away all of it and condemned it to flesh, (Rom. 8:3) and this is why by the cross at the resurrection we are thus made alive not in the flesh , rather in the Spirit of God (Rom. 6:4) and thus we are to belive by God we are dead to sin, (flesh) and alive to God in the Spirit of God (Rom. 6:11) best to read the full chapters, so you can see it all in context
I see it as the greatest commandments of Love and Love is the fulfillment of all Law and this Love of God extends to all people, treating all the same as God does, has through the cross
What is wroitten on my heart is LOVE.
L= ord
O= ver
V= iolence
E= ternally
God took it away all of it and condemned it to flesh, (Rom. 8:3) and this is why by the cross at the resurrection we are thus made alive not in the flesh , rather in the Spirit of God (Rom. 6:4) and thus we are to belive by God we are dead to sin, (flesh) and alive to God in the Spirit of God (Rom. 6:11) best to read the full chapters, so you can see it all in context
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I've provided scriptures defining sin and explained how it is that in Christ, believers cannot be charged with sin.
I've also shown from scripture how turning back to the law for righteousness by works is sin/unbelief.
But you're obviously intent on not considering what I've already shown you.
That example you gave of an intoxicated person raping and beating, was your description of what "drunkenness" Gal 5:21 spoke of. Clearly you draw this wrong interpretation through your fixation on moral standards. This then raises the question whether you judge a Christians righteousness by how good a life they live?
But to address your concerns, I have said in an earlier post that Christians love one another. And this includes forgiving one another 7x70 in this imperfect physical life we go through.
But it's clear from scripture, that God describes "drunkenness" in a spiritual manner, as confirmed in Rev 17:2.
The description you offered, however, is not supported in scripture and seems to say that righteousness is judged by how good a life we live, or maybe even works of the law.
Or are possibly on their way to understanding what is said above
and one day see
[h=3]Romans 1:17[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.”
[h=3]Romans 10:4[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.
1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
So let us ask God to quicken us by the Spirit too, by first dying to self at the cross of Christ and then be made anew by the resurrection back at the cross. HMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just wondering
[h=3]Romans 6:4[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.
and one day see
[h=3]Romans 1:17[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]This Good News tells us how God makes us right in his sight. This is accomplished from start to finish by faith. As the Scriptures say, “It is through faith that a righteous person has life.”
[h=3]Romans 10:4[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.
1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
So let us ask God to quicken us by the Spirit too, by first dying to self at the cross of Christ and then be made anew by the resurrection back at the cross. HMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just wondering
[h=3]Romans 6:4[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious power of the Father, now we also may live new lives.
The Messiah taught before the cross tokeep the commandments strictly, as in saying
Matthew 5:29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 18:8Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
This was the requirment of the Law before the cross, and all under stress to the point that disciples hearing these things and seeing the rich man wlak away sad, who had obeyed the laws from birth on, would not give up his worldly possesions and walked away sad.
So the disciples saw this and then asked
[h=3]Matthew 19:25-26[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]The disciples were astounded. “Then who in the world can be saved?” they asked.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Jesus looked at them intently and said, “Humanly speaking, it is impossible. But with God everything is possible.”
So what is possible with God that is impossible with man? Could be Christ was talking aobut him going to the cross and taking away the sin of the world in his Father's sight? So that Father could by this give us new life in the Spirit that is dead when born here on earth in the flesh?
What is the only way God can be worshipped today? BY Spirit or flesh?
So after the cross the flesh has been condemned by the death if one died then all are dead
1 Peter 4:6
That is why the Good News was preached to those who are now dead—so although they were destined to die like all people, they now live forever with God in the Spirit.
Romans 8:34Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.
From God's point of view we are forgiven and when we believe we are given God's Spirit that lives in us and we do as led by the Love of God.
We are no longer under us having to do it, because when any of us try to we are not fulfilling, in trying to, only proves we can't and thus we seek for more forgiveness and do not see we are forgiven 100% by Christ's death.
Now when one sees this then one quits trying and moves onto the resurrection and lives in the Spirit of God, where no sin occurs ever
So today we by the resurrection worship
John 4:23But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.
John 4:24For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”
Hoping, praying that you see what the Spirit is saying in how deepGod does just love you and the whole wrold that through the cross the intention was and is to save all, through belief in God by Christ
Matthew 5:29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 18:8Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
This was the requirment of the Law before the cross, and all under stress to the point that disciples hearing these things and seeing the rich man wlak away sad, who had obeyed the laws from birth on, would not give up his worldly possesions and walked away sad.
So the disciples saw this and then asked
[h=3]Matthew 19:25-26[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]The disciples were astounded. “Then who in the world can be saved?” they asked.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Jesus looked at them intently and said, “Humanly speaking, it is impossible. But with God everything is possible.”
So what is possible with God that is impossible with man? Could be Christ was talking aobut him going to the cross and taking away the sin of the world in his Father's sight? So that Father could by this give us new life in the Spirit that is dead when born here on earth in the flesh?
What is the only way God can be worshipped today? BY Spirit or flesh?
So after the cross the flesh has been condemned by the death if one died then all are dead
1 Peter 4:6
That is why the Good News was preached to those who are now dead—so although they were destined to die like all people, they now live forever with God in the Spirit.
Romans 8:34Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.
From God's point of view we are forgiven and when we believe we are given God's Spirit that lives in us and we do as led by the Love of God.
We are no longer under us having to do it, because when any of us try to we are not fulfilling, in trying to, only proves we can't and thus we seek for more forgiveness and do not see we are forgiven 100% by Christ's death.
Now when one sees this then one quits trying and moves onto the resurrection and lives in the Spirit of God, where no sin occurs ever
So today we by the resurrection worship
John 4:23But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.
John 4:24For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”
Hoping, praying that you see what the Spirit is saying in how deepGod does just love you and the whole wrold that through the cross the intention was and is to save all, through belief in God by Christ
Good = Believe in Jesus.
Bad = Unbelief in Jesus.[/QUOTE]
Yep, the only thing Christ never died for unbelief. Which in essence leaves us all with free choice to believe God or not
Ask and we shall recieve, ask what? How about ask God for truth, that sets one free from bondage? Taking on his yoke and burden, for it is light and easy. But striving to please is not light and easy
So I saw waht he has done, and my burden has been lifted, knowing the God just love me, you and all. Why else would God have suffered the cross when Christ is perfect? There was no need for him to go, he who knew no sin? HMMM!!!! wondering.
We all know that he is perfect right? So what need? Did God do it for us or against us?
Bad = Unbelief in Jesus.[/QUOTE]
Yep, the only thing Christ never died for unbelief. Which in essence leaves us all with free choice to believe God or not
Ask and we shall recieve, ask what? How about ask God for truth, that sets one free from bondage? Taking on his yoke and burden, for it is light and easy. But striving to please is not light and easy
So I saw waht he has done, and my burden has been lifted, knowing the God just love me, you and all. Why else would God have suffered the cross when Christ is perfect? There was no need for him to go, he who knew no sin? HMMM!!!! wondering.
We all know that he is perfect right? So what need? Did God do it for us or against us?
I do not see by belief in the finished work of Christ, first the death to take away the punishment of sin that equaled death or caused death in the first place, and then the resurrection, the completed Gospel where God the Father gives one new life in God by the Spirit, as being lawless, for we are safe in him, only in the Spirit of God, not flesh
The battle here and all over the world is Flesh vrs Spirit of God
[h=3]Galatians 5:16-18[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[h=3]Living by the Spirit’s Power[/h][SUP]16 [/SUP]So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves. [SUP]17 [/SUP]The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions. [SUP]18 [/SUP]But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses.
So who are we going to listen to?
The battle here and all over the world is Flesh vrs Spirit of God
[h=3]Galatians 5:16-18[/h]New Living Translation (NLT)
[h=3]Living by the Spirit’s Power[/h][SUP]16 [/SUP]So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves. [SUP]17 [/SUP]The sinful nature wants to do evil, which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free to carry out your good intentions. [SUP]18 [/SUP]But when you are directed by the Spirit, you are not under obligation to the law of Moses.
So who are we going to listen to?
GALATIANS 4 [21] Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? [22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. [23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. [24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the TWO COVENANTS; THE ONE FROM THE MOUNT SINAI, WHICH GENDERETH TO BONDAGE, WHICH IS AGAR. [25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. [26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Is the above scripture speaking of the 10 commandments as the “many” would have you to believe or circumcision? This scripture speaks of the two sons and not the women.
EXODUS 34 [28] And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the COVENANT, the TEN COMMANDMENTS.
ACTS 7 [8] And he gave him the COVENANT OF CIRCUMCISION: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs.
BOTH the 10 commandments and circumcision were givin as “covenants”
EXODUS 24 [12] And the Lord said unto Moses, COME UP TO ME INTO THE MOUNT, and be there: and I WILL GIVE THEE tables of stone, AND A LAW, AND COMMANDMENTS which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
LEVITICUS 7 [37] THIS IS THE LAW OF THE BURNT OFFERING, of the meat offering, and of the sin offering, and of the trespass offering, and of the consecrations, and of the sacrifice of the peace offerings; [38] WHICH THE LORD COMMANDED MOSES IN MOUNT SINAI, in the day that he commanded the children of Israel to offer their oblations unto the Lord, in the wilderness of Sinai.
Both covenants, the 10 commandments and the law of Moses were given at Mt Sinai.
JOHN 7 [21] Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.[22] MOSES THEREFORE GAVE UNTO YOU CIRCUMCISION; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.[23] If a man on the sabbath day RECEIVE CIRCUMCISION, THAT THE LAW OF MOSES SHOULD NOT BE BROKEN; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
GENESIS 26 [3] Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father; [4] And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; [5] Because that ABRAHAM OBEYED MY VOICE, and kept my charge, MY COMMANDMENTS, my statutes, and my laws.
Circumcision is of the law of Moses and given at Sinai. Even though it started with Abe. Ten commandments given at Sinai. Even though Abe was keeping Gods commandments before Sinai. He OBEYED VOICE. So which of these, the 10 commandments or circumcision do the scriptures say bring us into “bondage”?
And the winner is....
GALATIANS 5 [1] Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and BE NOT ENTANGLED AGAIN WITH THE YOKE OF BONDAGE. [2] Behold, I Paul say unto you, that IF YE BE CIRCUMCISED, CHRIST SHALL PROFIT YOU NOTHING.
Is the above scripture speaking of the 10 commandments as the “many” would have you to believe or circumcision? This scripture speaks of the two sons and not the women.
EXODUS 34 [28] And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the COVENANT, the TEN COMMANDMENTS.
ACTS 7 [8] And he gave him the COVENANT OF CIRCUMCISION: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs.
BOTH the 10 commandments and circumcision were givin as “covenants”
EXODUS 24 [12] And the Lord said unto Moses, COME UP TO ME INTO THE MOUNT, and be there: and I WILL GIVE THEE tables of stone, AND A LAW, AND COMMANDMENTS which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
LEVITICUS 7 [37] THIS IS THE LAW OF THE BURNT OFFERING, of the meat offering, and of the sin offering, and of the trespass offering, and of the consecrations, and of the sacrifice of the peace offerings; [38] WHICH THE LORD COMMANDED MOSES IN MOUNT SINAI, in the day that he commanded the children of Israel to offer their oblations unto the Lord, in the wilderness of Sinai.
Both covenants, the 10 commandments and the law of Moses were given at Mt Sinai.
JOHN 7 [21] Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.[22] MOSES THEREFORE GAVE UNTO YOU CIRCUMCISION; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers
and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.[23] If a man on the sabbath day RECEIVE CIRCUMCISION, THAT THE LAW OF MOSES SHOULD NOT BE BROKEN; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?GENESIS 26 [3] Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father; [4] And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; [5] Because that ABRAHAM OBEYED MY VOICE, and kept my charge, MY COMMANDMENTS, my statutes, and my laws.
Circumcision is of the law of Moses and given at Sinai. Even though it started with Abe. Ten commandments given at Sinai. Even though Abe was keeping Gods commandments before Sinai. He OBEYED VOICE. So which of these, the 10 commandments or circumcision do the scriptures say bring us into “bondage”?
And the winner is....
GALATIANS 5 [1] Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and BE NOT ENTANGLED AGAIN WITH THE YOKE OF BONDAGE. [2] Behold, I Paul say unto you, that IF YE BE CIRCUMCISED, CHRIST SHALL PROFIT YOU NOTHING.