Abortion?!?!

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G4JC

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So what about women who had that choice made against their will? Should someone who was raped be forced to keep a child they never wanted nor did anything to deserve?
Why would you kill the baby for the crime of the father?
 
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hopesprings

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So what about women who had that choice made against their will? Should someone who was raped be forced to keep a child they never wanted nor did anything to deserve?
you make it sound like children are a curse....you should read jimmydiggs' answer in post #12....
 
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DragonSlayer

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Humanism religion ( which is Satanism in disguise ) teach to all secular people humans are their own Gods, and nobody can judge them, the truth is relative there's no such thing as absolute truth, there's no right and wrong, etc.
All of this satanic rebellion comes from this satanic philosophy " Do what thou will ".

But millenniums ago, the Lord wrote with His own finger: " Thou shalt not kill " !
Moral law is still written by the Finger of Jesus to every human's heart, as you can go anywhere on the face of the earth, every human knows it's wrong to kill, it's wrong to steal, it's wrong to lie, etc.
criminals deny humanity and chose to be the spawns of Satan and his minions.

Moral law is universal and will never be abolished ! In fact it's written on each human's heart, on each human's conscience !
Killing innocent babies is similar to ritual sacrifices satanic worshipers regularly operate in secret ! Like passing innocent babies through fire , abortion is exactly the same ! Because abortionists chose to be their own Gods,
and innocent babies are their sacrifices to their self worshiping, which is Satan worshiping !

To those who would tell me I wouldn't have the right to judge, let me tell you Paul tell we, the saints, will judge the whole world ! So yes, we have the right to judge for the World's salvation ! Jesus want His people to be the light of this fallen world !
 

Nautilus

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you make it sound like children are a curse....you should read jimmydiggs' answer in post #12....
And if a woman who doesnt want kids gets raped and becomes pregnant is that not a curse persay that she would be stuck with for at least nine months? Not everyone wants to deal with that sort of thing, especially when they have no say in it
 
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1still_waters

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And if a woman who doesnt want kids gets raped and becomes pregnant is that not a curse persay that she would be stuck with for at least nine months? Not everyone wants to deal with that sort of thing, especially when they have no say in it
So because SOME women become pregnant against their will, ALL women should have the right to crush the head of the baby in their womb?
 
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1still_waters

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Nautilus, at which point does something with human DNA, a human brain, a heart controlled by that human brain, have a right not to have its head crushed and body dismembered?
 
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Can someone explaine the reasons behind "Its a womans body she has the right to decide what happens to her body" OK well it was her right to have sex seeing as it was her body she should own up to her responsibility right? Why is everyone saying its her body? is it really her body that is curled up inside of her womb sucking on her thumb? i dont think so!

This is a great post. The world obstructs the truth, calling this a matter of “women’s health.” Women's heath has nothing to do with it. It's just the world's way of justifying killing a helpless, living being.
 
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I agree!I do not support abortion in anyway at all.Even when it is the size of a grain of rice,it is still a person.It's a person that should get to live.I don't understand how someone could kill their own child.The thought sickens me and if you think about it's no different then having the baby and then stabbing it after it's born.No life is a mistake because God doesn't make mistakes.
 
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We are created by God and live in a world created by Him. If we would treat our world and ourselves as God teaches, we would have joy and abundance. It is a fundamental teaching of God to not harm what He has made.

I create very lifelike porcelain dolls. I do not think those dolls would have a right to self destruct because they belong to themselves after I have created them.
 

Elizabeth619

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I am curious as to what is a natural abortion? If you are referring to a miscarriage - losing the baby before 3 months, then it becomes a miscarriage not a natural abortion. Is there such as thing as natural abortion.

Miscarriage = No choice
Abortion = Chosen choice
"Abortion" is used for any type of termination of a pregnancy. There is an induced abortion, and there is a spontaneous abortion. Spontaneous abortion is a miscarriage. Abortion means to terminate.
 

Elizabeth619

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And if a woman who doesnt want kids gets raped and becomes pregnant is that not a curse persay that she would be stuck with for at least nine months? Not everyone wants to deal with that sort of thing, especially when they have no say in it
I have a niece who is a product of rape. My sister did not want a baby, yet she chose life. She also learned to forgive, and put that horrible incident behind her.
Last week my niece dedicated her life to the Lord and became a Christian. She is a blessing, and certainly not any less of a human because of how she conceived. She is certainly not a curse.

So the whole victim spill, and how abortion is ok under certain circumstances doesn't jive with me. The world teaches people to act as victims and use hardships as an excuse to take certain actions that aren't Godly instead of teaching forgiveness. Abortion will not make the rape go away. It will not change what happened. All it does it make the woman the mother of a dead baby. A baby that had a right to live.
 

DuchessAimee

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There is just one thing I'd like to say. Well, it's more like a story to tell.

I was in my lab class a month or so ago talking to a woman who sits with me most often. She's very sweet and kind and somehow we got onto the subject of religion. I told her I was a Christian and she got very quiet. I asked her what was wrong and she asked if I believed abortion was wrong. I told her I did and she got very quiet again. She then blurted out that she had had 2 abortions but she felt guilty about both of them. She explained that she was young and stupid but hoped that God wouldn't punish her by not letting her have any more kids. I smiled at her and let her know that God loves her and forgives sin. I explained a bit about salvation and how God restores lives. She told me she was a Catholic now and knew what I was talking about. But she made a statement that I was the ONLY Christian she had ever shared her secret with who didn't tell her she was going to hell.


All of that to say we as a Body must stop condemning people who have made such grave decisions in the past. We've ALL sinned, and it broke my heart to see the look of guilt and pain on her face. I don't agree with her choices, but how can I tell her she's going to hell when I've sinned too?


Should any of you come across a woman who's had an abortion, please be sensitive and kind to her.
 
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Grey

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I have very mixed opinions on the subject I think most people can agree that using contraceptives preemptively is better right
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Shiloah

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There is just one thing I'd like to say. Well, it's more like a story to tell.

I was in my lab class a month or so ago talking to a woman who sits with me most often. She's very sweet and kind and somehow we got onto the subject of religion. I told her I was a Christian and she got very quiet. I asked her what was wrong and she asked if I believed abortion was wrong. I told her I did and she got very quiet again. She then blurted out that she had had 2 abortions but she felt guilty about both of them. She explained that she was young and stupid but hoped that God wouldn't punish her by not letting her have any more kids. I smiled at her and let her know that God loves her and forgives sin. I explained a bit about salvation and how God restores lives. She told me she was a Catholic now and knew what I was talking about. But she made a statement that I was the ONLY Christian she had ever shared her secret with who didn't tell her she was going to hell.


All of that to say we as a Body must stop condemning people who have made such grave decisions in the past. We've ALL sinned, and it broke my heart to see the look of guilt and pain on her face. I don't agree with her choices, but how can I tell her she's going to hell when I've sinned too?


Should any of you come across a woman who's had an abortion, please be sensitive and kind to her.
I honestly think many people who have abortions thinking of them as a birth control method. They think of a fetus the size of the head of a pin that does not think or feel; and therefore, will experience nothing, because basically, it's not a baby yet. Then later on, especially after they have children, they think about it and it begins to bother them. I think we must always keep this in mind when dealing with people who have had abortions. They're not purposefully killing babies. Again, I real think most generally they see abortion as stopping a pregnancy from happening, or at least continuing.

I'm not condoning it, for heaven's sake. I'm just saying let's have compassion. Yes, we've all sinned and come short of the glory of God.
 
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Nautilus

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Nautilus, at which point does something with human DNA, a human brain, a heart controlled by that human brain, have a right not to have its head crushed and body dismembered?
Im one of those life begins at birth people...but ill even concede that we could say the point of viability.