Judge this abortion case

[RedTent]

This couple wanted children very much. They spent thousands and thousands of dollars trying, and finally she was pregnant. They checked on the baby, and found that the baby was mentally and physically very damaged. The doctor said that it wouldn't be right to bring someone in the world with problems so very severe, he advised abortion.

She was Mormon, and he was sure that he could only contact God on the mountains, mountain climbing was his hobby. He did not go by scripture.

With much grief and tears, they went to the abortion clinic. There was a crowd outside, and as the couple was making their way to the clinic with tears in their eyes they were told "you are killing your baby". It was too much for her. She had a nervous breakdown. By the next year they were divorced.

I am aware that if our family was structured like God ordered, all the family would be a closer unit, they would have had and welcomed more support. Every day, for each of us, our lives would be centered around worship. That is not the case with the way our world is structured.

I have often wondered what God wanted them to do? It is wrong to kill. This baby was saved from a terrible life.

 

[Grey]

And that's why quite a few people are pro-choice, at least in some matters. I haven't made up my mind.

 

[Nautilus]

honestly as horrible as it sounds i wouldnt want the responsibility of raising a mentally/physically disabled child. Ive seen the toll it takes on families and just no. There is always adoption or giving it up at birth but to what kind of life?

 

[T_Laurich]

Who are we to judge an others quality of life???

 

[kenisyes]

It's great that doctors are so trustworthy, that they can help us know right from wrong. It's like the old story about the guy on the rooftop who died from the flood, after God sent the rescue boat and the rescue helicopter, and he stayed there wiating for a miracle. God made it really hard to have a baby, but sent them so much money they could do whatever they wanted. Then God made the baby look disabled to the doctor, whom they trusted so much. Then God let them think He could talk to them on a mountain, but made the man a mountainclimber, so he could force God to talk to him whenever he wanted. Then, after all these indications, and all these obvious ways out, God let them trust the doctor instead of Him. God allowed the abortion clinic to stay open, but sent the crowd out front, to focus them on the choice they were making, so the parents could do whatever they wanted.

God could have, and likely would have, taken that baby home before it was ever born, or worked a miracle to give the baby a good life anyway. Both types of cases are well documented. One wonders where the money to have the child, and the man's athletic mountain-climbing skill could have been better used, instead of doing what they wanted. The couple had their rescue boat and their helicopter and stayed in the flood until their hearts and their marriage died in that flood.

Read Romans 2:15. Even a pagan knows something about God instinctively.

 

[yac11]

I have a step sister in law who was told her baby would have down syndrome and offered up abortion to her. They thought about it for one second....and kept the baby. She does not have down syndrome and a matter of fact is not only normally but highly intelligent and beautiful like her mother.

 

[Shiloah]

This couple wanted children very much. They spent thousands and thousands of dollars trying, and finally she was pregnant. They checked on the baby, and found that the baby was mentally and physically very damaged. The doctor said that it wouldn't be right to bring someone in the world with problems so very severe, he advised abortion.

She was Mormon, and he was sure that he could only contact God on the mountains, mountain climbing was his hobby. He did not go by scripture.

With much grief and tears, they went to the abortion clinic. There was a crowd outside, and as the couple was making their way to the clinic with tears in their eyes they were told "you are killing your baby". It was too much for her. She had a nervous breakdown. By the next year they were divorced.

I am aware that if our family was structured like God ordered, all the family would be a closer unit, they would have had and welcomed more support. Every day, for each of us, our lives would be centered around worship. That is not the case with the way our world is structured.

I have often wondered what God wanted them to do? It is wrong to kill. This baby was saved from a terrible life.

I know I'll be attacked from all sides for this, but this is an abortion I believe should have been done. Yes, the child's life would have been terrible.

 

[DannyC]

I find the pro-choice/pro-life groups are far too extreme in general for even conversations. Usually the minute you admit a side to one you get a barrage of insults mixed with few actual engaging comments from the other. As an atheist I am not taking into account God/Gods preference. I am genuinely looking at the moral implications of both sides before blindly choosing the status-quo decision.I am undecided and I feel though a negative element is the idea that all atheists/skeptics or non-religious are default pro-choice. I think situations where the child is not going to survive or is still born or seriously threatens the life of the mother or both then abortion is morally acceptable. The issue I see is that both sides almost ignore the very obvious grey areas of abortion and have placed themselves into the very extremes of each side.

 

[homwardbound]

We all have free choice this is what God will not take away, whether we make the wrong choice or the right one,
A group of people say no this is the right choice and another group of say no this is the right Choice. Who is right or who is wrong.
Man is wrong for butting into others free choice in taking away others free choice. Nothing wrong with advising, yet please always end it with it is your free choice in what to do, and say please Talk to God, and listen for God's answer what is best to do. No choice is open or shut, it is free will we have been given and free will is what I shall give and do accordingly as I believe God is leading me, because the devil whom has been judged condemned is still out and about through the evil nature born unto mankind, that steals, kills, and destroys. Guilt trips, guilt trips, and more guilt trips, which is what destroys, steals, and kills
When true Love of God frees, frees and keeps one free.
My prayers are for this couple, to find truth from God through this tragedy
I myself was not to be born per the Doctor to my Mother after a miscarriage at 42, Doctor said do not get pregnant again, for you will die and so will the Baby.
Well Mom had me at 43, I lived, and so did she, born with a couple abnormalities, a change of life baby, and Mom lived to the ripe age of 88, and now today is and has been welcomed to her new location, which most of us do not do at a death, we usually sat rest in peace, when that should be said at any grand opening of any new business here on earth
praying for peace in this couple, and to see if they believe in God they do have a reunion when they get to heaven with this Child. For God is righteous in all God does and allows to be

 

[PennEd]

I know I'll be attacked from all sides for this, but this is an abortion I believe should have been done. Yes, the child's life would have been terrible.

We have no way of knowing what ANY human will achieve for the glory of God. How do we know that a severely deformed person wouldn't in some way lead someone to Christ, and have that person or persons forever be with the Lord instead of suffering forever in hell?

What a dangerous precedent to start when we evaluate what the quality or worth of someones life will be, and then decide to end it if it doesn't fit what we believe it should be.

 

[Lucy68]

This was still was a human being even with his/her defects. A life is a life, no matter how small, or how defective.

 

[GOD_IS_LOVE]

This is a good example of how one sin leads to another; in this case murder lead to divorce. It is a sin to take the life of a human being, in any way or manner.

 

[Nautilus]

amd what do you do if you dont want to deal with the costs and hassles of raising a handicapped child? just leave it at the hospital and hope for the best?

 

[GOD_IS_LOVE]

If you don't want to deal with the costs and hassles of raising a handicapped child just don't take the risk and don't have children. They are human beings as well, not disposables.

 

[Nancyer]

I know I'll be attacked from all sides for this, but this is an abortion I believe should have been done. Yes, the child's life would have been terrible.

You can't possibly know that. A couple wanting so desperately to have a child would most likely have been wonderful parents (your right, I don't know that either but it seems likely). I'm not saying it would have been easy. The child may or may not have been severely disabled, doctors can only guess. And being disabled doesn't automatically sentence one to a horrible life.
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I won't judge this couple, it's a decision no one can make until they are in that situation. My first child had difficulties at birth, (after 3 days of induced labor), didn't breath right away, slightly cross-eyed, stayed in ICU for a few days. My husband didn't say it out loud but he was very scared and admitted years later that at the time he just knew he didn't want a disabled child, couldn't have handled it. But our son is now 18, big (6' 4") and strong and smart and wonderful.

 

[notuptome]

God does not make mistakes. The child was created by God and for His glory. Can't say what the child's future would have been because men who know better than God intervened.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Shiloah]

God does not make mistakes. The child was created by God and for His glory. Can't say what the child's future would have been because men who know better than God intervened.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Yeah sure. God made that baby seriously mentally and physically deformed for His purposes. Then He didn't even see this abortion coming, and now His purposes are all messed up.

 

[jimmydiggs]

It would be murder to kill the child.

 

[Zero_Kool]

As a mormon, We beleive that abortion is wrong and not gods will. The woman should have a stronger beleif that God would have guided her throught her life. Now theres after birth abortion and a bill to be pass son to kill up to age three years old. It a sad world were in.

 

[jimmydiggs]

As a mormon, We beleive that abortion is wrong and not gods will. The woman should have a stronger beleif that God would have guided her throught her life. Now theres after birth abortion and a bill to be pass son to kill up to age three years old. It a sad world were in.

I think false gospels are more sad. Abortion is bloody and destructive, people know this too. False gospels don't appear as such, sometimes they appear as angels of light, but angels of light aren't the only things that can look like angels of light.