The Necessity of Tongues For Prayer Language

[Thaddaeus]

All speaking in languages was perfect for its day, and only corinth was the one getting messages from the holy ghost until the bible was completed. Holy Ghost is out comforter, and does not speak to bring any more messages. The babblings are all the same parrot talk! And as far as picking up serpents and drinking poison, I do not drink the poison of the speaking in tongues, and if i do it cannot hurt me, and If I pick up a serpent, a false preacher or prophet, it will not harm me either. In these last days, Satan is doing his best to impersonate Jesus, even bringing down fire from heaven which symboliclally is nothing more than falling over backward, another sign of the devil combined with the tongue speaking signs, wonders and miracles. (2Thes 2:9) [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

you call spiritual gifts that God poured out on His people as poison, Wow!!! you believe only the parts of the Bible you want to believe (2Thes 2:9) [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

while the Bible also tell us that
oe 2:28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:Joe 2:29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.Joe 2:30And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
but because of your unbelief you will not see these signs except though your eyes as seeing them as evil, because you only want to believe the parts of the Bible as you see it and not as the whole Bible as truth.

 

[BLC]

Around and Around we go!
It seems like the same mountain for four months now!
It almost seem like the forty years in the wilderness, it was only suppose to take five days or so!

What kind of fruit is this?
Is it up lifting,
Is it life giving?
Is it patient or kind?
Does love demand it's own way?

Where is the fruit of love?

James 1:16-20 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above,
and comes down from the Father of lights,
with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning,
Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth,
that we might be a kind of first fruits of His creatures.
So then,
My beloved brethren,
Let every man be swift to hear,
slow to speak,
slow to wrath;
For the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God.

James 3:1 My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.
For we all stumble in many things.
If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man,
able also to bridle the whole body.

James 4:1 Where do wars and fights come from among you?
Do they not come from your desires for pleasure that war in your members?
You lust and do not have.
You murder and covet and cannot obtain.
You fight and war.
Yet you do not have because you do not ask.
You ask and do not receive,
Because you ask amiss, that you may spend it on your pleasures.

Seeing that love is your constant theme, I thought I would quote a portion of (1Cor13) for your edification. This portion of scripture that reveals to us the specifics of the love of God and how it behaves and operates toward others is what I use to examine myself in relationship to the love of God. If my love does not have these qualities resident and active in my heart and being put into practice by faith, then my love is not from God. This is the kind of love that the Holy Spirit sheds in our hearts (Rom 5:5). Peter had a problem with this kind of love until he was finally converted. Love never has to boast itself because it is active in its demonstration toward others. The fruit of God's love does not have to defend itself because there is no law against it (Gal 5:23). Love is longsuffering, patient and is always kind, it believes all things and never thinks evil of any man and rejoices in the truth.

1Cor 13:4-7 'Love endures long and is patient and kind; love never is envious nor boils over with jealousy, is not boastful or vainglorious, does not display itself haughtily. It is not conceited (arrogant and inflated with pride); it is not rude (unmannerly) and does not act unbecomingly. Love (God's love in us) does not insist on its own rights or its own way, for it is not self-seeking; it is not touchy or fretful or resentful; it takes no account of the evil done to it [it pays no attention to a suffered wrong]. It does not rejoice at injustice and unrighteousness, but rejoices when right and truth prevail. Love bears up under anything and everything that comes, is ever ready to believe the best of every person, its hopes are fadeless under all circumstances, and it endures everything [without weakening]'.

 

[watchmen]

Well, MS we are all entitled to believe in our teachers, you believe in the pastor or teacher that you believe in, and so do many others, that is why there are many denominations that do not agree, right? I just thought as a watchman it is the duty to warn of danger when it is seen coming,

You are no watchman, matter of fact you are exactrly what the wactchmen are warning the church of.

2nd Timothy 3
12 Yea, and all that live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persacution
13 But evil men will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

You have been deceived and are here to deceive.

 

[BLU]

you call spiritual gifts that God poured out on His people as poison, Wow!!! you believe only the parts of the Bible you want to believe (2Thes 2:9) [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

while the Bible also tell us that
oe 2:28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:Joe 2:29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.Joe 2:30And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
but because of your unbelief you will not see these signs except though your eyes as seeing them as evil, because you only want to believe the parts of the Bible as you see it and not as the whole Bible as truth.

Are you misquoting my on spite. I told you that after Rev 22 tells us that we are not to add, then it was that speaking in tongues became as poison. You seem to be the one in trying to make things out your own way, go back and read the thread, and do not misquote me it constitutes bearing false witness, if you know what I mean! You Just ignore what i have said and rebutt me with gobble. Read and question my remarks or shut up!

 

[BLU]

You are no watchman, matter of fact you are exactrly what the wactchmen are warning the church of.

2nd Timothy 3
12 Yea, and all that live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persacution
13 But evil men will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.

You have been deceived and are here to deceive.

A watchman warns people of danger, right, then i give you fair warning, the rapture will be on 5/21/2011, that is the last warning you will hear from this watchman. And refuse to obey Gods comandmets of REV 18, BY STAYING IN A DEAD HORESE JUST LIKE OT ISRAEL, THE CHURCH IS UNDER JUDGEMENT - 2 THESS 2:4 TELLS US WHO RULES THERE NOW, WHAT IS HE PAYING YOU OF IN, MONEY, POWER, SEX,? YOU STAYING IN THE CHURCH MAKES YOU SATAN'S ARMY. SATAN HAS YOU BRAINWASHED!

 

[watchmen]

A watchman warns people of danger, right, then i give you fair warning, the rapture will be on 5/21/2011, that is the last warning you will hear from this watchman. And refuse to obey Gods comandmets of REV 18, BY STAYING IN A DEAD HORESE JUST LIKE OT ISRAEL, THE CHURCH IS UNDER JUDGEMENT - 2 THESS 2:4 TELLS US WHO RULES THERE NOW, WHAT IS HE PAYING YOU OF IN, MONEY, POWER, SEX,? YOU STAYING IN THE CHURCH MAKES YOU SATAN'S ARMY. SATAN HAS YOU BRAINWASHED!

Wow!!!, Well I thank you for that. With all the falshood you spread through this board, I no longer have any need to discredit it, you have just discredited yourself in a way I could never.

 

[broken]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCebAa9qKz8


1 cor 13
Much love and warm thoughts to my brothers

 

[BLU]

Wow!!!, Well I thank you for that. With all the falshood you spread through this board, I no longer have any need to discredit it, you have just discredited yourself in a way I could never.

[Cool, I believe you have made you measure, so be it, that you are.

 

[BLU]

By the way Watchman, which one are you, the one I saw on one site that says Adam and Eve had a threesome with Satan in the garden. OR are you the watchman that says the book of Mormon bible is purer and better than the KJV.
It sure did not take long for you to show your colors. You went from scoffer to accuser, is not satan the accuser of the brethern? Hmmm, why did i say you are brainwashed?

 

[MahogonySnail]

BLU if you repent of your sins and believe in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation, you may be saved.
Act 2:21 And it shall be that everyone who shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

 

[BLU]

BLU if you repent of your sins and believe in Jesus Christ alone for your salvation, you may be saved.
Act 2:21 And it shall be that everyone who shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Salvation is not that simple, In these last days one has to beg God for his mercy that he does not get left behind. Really sorry for you and watchman, for you non-belief. I bet you didn't even give Camping a fair hearing. It is not Camping that is saying the world is going to end soon.. He just shows us the verses that declares what God is saying.
Watchman should be the one to repent of his accusative thoughts against me. Here is his accusation, just like the devil who is the accuser of the brethern, do not get taken in by him. You are no watchman, matter of fact you are exactrly what the wactchmen are warning the church of-you have been deceived and are here to deceive..

 

[watchmen]

By the way Watchman, which one are you, the one I saw on one site that says Adam and Eve had a threesome with Satan in the garden. OR are you the watchman that says the book of Mormon bible is purer and better than the KJV.
It sure did not take long for you to show your colors. You went from scoffer to accuser, is not satan the accuser of the brethern? Hmmm, why did i say you are brainwashed?

Ahh true colors??? Hmmm, you accuse me of being an accuser that is hypocritical in itself. On top of that you make outragest claims about me believing in Adan, Eve, and Satan having a threesome and believing in the book of Mormon that are not only untrue but unprovable, sounds like something Satan would do, after All He is the Father of all lies.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


By the way I appreciate anything false and negative you can say about me you are adding to my reward.
Matthew 5
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

 

[BLU]

Ahh true colors??? Hmmm, you accuse me of being an accuser that is hypocritical in itself. On top of that you make outragest claims about me believing in Adan, Eve, and Satan having a threesome and believing in the book of Mormon that are not only untrue but unprovable, sounds like something Satan would do, after All He is the Father of all lies.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Your quote:You are no watchman, matter of fact you are exactrly what the wactchmen are warning the church of.-You have been deceived and are here to deceive.

By the way I appreciate anything false and negative you can say about me you are adding to my reward.
Matthew 5
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Stop patting yourself on the back/Boasting.and reread to get a clearer picture of what was said.

My dear watchman I am well aware of the devices of the devil. And now I am becoming aware of how you read into things thoughts that are not there, and that is your fault, you cannot read, and you make accusations unfounded, because you just glaze over sentences. and since you are full of preconceived ideas to begin with it makes you that way, judgmental and of poor measure. I never accused you of being the watchmam that I have come across on other sites, but oddly enough you bear the same name. Peace unto you, but I still say Camping is a great teacher despite your doubts and unbelief, I do not accuse other pastors that are in error as you do Camping, talk of being an accuser and hypocritical! Again, Peace!

 

[watchmen]

BLU, how have you not been banned? I am not going to run to the mods, but how can someone like you remain on a christian site?

 

[BLU]

BLU, how have you not been banned? I am not going to run to the mods, but how can someone like you remain on a christian site?

You are not trying to make peace, are you?! If you cannot handle rebuttle then do not trow it around.
You are really looking to add fuel to the fire, shame on you. Didn't you also have a thread to ban Cup -of-rain. What is it with ppl like you, You wish for the site to be for, only and only what it is you preach? And when someone resist you, or contradicts you, you start an accusation campaign against them as you now have to get rid of me. you immediately want them banned, Bully for you!! Stop adding fuel to the fire, I said let us live in peace, and you make war against me. Again, shame on you!

 

[watchmen]

You are really looking to add fuel to the fire, shame on you. Didn't you also have a thread to ban Cup -of-rain!

Once again another false accusation. Thank you for the blessing keep them coming, as I continue to rejoice in my reward.

 

[BLU]

Once again another false accusation. Thank you for the blessing keep them coming, as I continue to rejoice in my reward.

OH, thank you so much! It is written to do good to them that hate you. Good luck, since you do not encourage me to be your friend, i shall continue to be stronger than you.
But Since you did not curse me, I cannot bless you, it is not a blessing but to your self righteuos indignation.!

 

[Unbound]

Salvation is not that simple, In these last days one has to beg God for his mercy that he does not get left behind. Really sorry for you and watchman, for you non-belief. I bet you didn't even give Camping a fair hearing. It is not Camping that is saying the world is going to end soon.. He just shows us the verses that declares what God is saying.
Watchman should be the one to repent of his accusative thoughts against me. Here is his accusation, just like the devil who is the accuser of the brethern, do not get taken in by him. You are no watchman, matter of fact you are exactrly what the wactchmen are warning the church of-you have been deceived and are here to deceive..

I REALLY was not going to say anything else in this thread, but this is.......well,.

1 Corinthians 2:12
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

Now, is it just me, or does it seem strange that God would make us BEG for the grace he gives FREELY??


Also, I might like to add that I have given Camping a fair hearing, even if no one else here has heard him. I was actually working on an associates degree in Biblical Studies with Family Radio School of the Bible at one point. Even though I saw that the doctrine was not right, even to the point of bordering on anti-semetic, I continued to do the course work. However, God soon told me to get away from these heretic teachings. Their doctrine basically curses Israel, and I realised I could have no part of an organization which curses Israel, which would bring a curse uopn myself.

Genesis 12:2-3
2 I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.

3 I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”



I have seen this man do nothing but accuse people and declare condemnation upon them in this thread. However, he obviously picks and chooses snippets of the Bible. He should remember God's people are not called to curse people.

Romans 12:14

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.



To those he has attacked, I want you to remind you of the outcome of Baalam's error.

Deuteronomy 23:5

5 Nevertheless the LORD your God would not listen to Balaam, but the LORD your God turned the curse into a blessing for you, because the LORD your God loves you.


I may not agree with many people's take on Scripture, and I will express me beliefs and convictions, but I will not condemn them.


As for BLU, he can worship Camping and declare his message if he wishes, that is his choice. I will worship GOD and and declare His message.

 

[watchmen]

OH, thank you so much! It is written to do good to them that hate you. Good luck, since you do not encourage me to be your friend, i shall continue to be stronger than you.
But Since you did not curse me, I cannot bless you, it is not a blessing but to your self righteuos indignation.!

Praise God another false accusation for my righteousness is in Jehovah Ksidkenu, the Lord My righteousness, not in myself, for my righteousness is like filthy rages. Keep them coming reward after reward

 

[BLU]

Praise God another false accusation for my righteousness is in Jehovah Ksidkenu, the Lord My righteousness, not in myself, for my righteousness is like filthy rages. Keep them coming reward after reward

Ha, ha, ha! You do tickle me! ksidkenu-Oh, is that word biblical?