Why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuality?

[Exoaria]

I see more threads on this site about homosexuals and debates about whether they're going to heaven or hell than discussions about how good, kind and merciful our Lord and Savior is.
I believe that God created man, and when sin came in, the devil perverted many things within humanity. Satan took the concept of Christ marrying His church, and the natural order that God had intended for man to function and twisted it into something else. He does this with all good things that God had created.

I want to make two statements, though.
a) Homosexuality is just as much of a sin as anything else.
b) Just because you are not attracted to the same sex, does not mean you know what the temptation feels like.

I'm not here to try and start a debate about whether it's wrong or right - because in the eyes of God it's wrong. Bang, there you have it. Nothing else needs to be said on that.
What I want to know is why are Christians so obsessed with condemning homosexuals?

To say that you are without sin, is to make Him out to be a liar. You are unrighteous, and ungodly, but you are made righteous by the blood of Christ. Sin is sin, God does not make a hierarchy of do's and don'ts. We have ALL fallen short of the glory of our Lord Jesus.
Can you remember the last time that you thought a bad thought about someone? The last time you had a lustful thought? What about the last time you cursed someone? Are you having a hard time forgiving someone?
GUESS WHAT. You are just as bad as a homosexual, I am just as bad as a homosexual.
I struggle, you struggle. I've probably sinned in 50 different ways today and I can't even recall it. I am so unrighteous and I deserve hell, you deserve hell, the pope deserves hell. I don't care who you are, you deserve the pit, no matter what you DO and no matter what you DON'T DO, you deserve no mercy.

I want to know why Christians are so damn obsessed with homosexuals. They will overlook their own greed, their own judgement and take the salvation that they did not earn and use it to tell a gay person that they're going to hell. Do you not realize that you deserve to go to hell?
You didn't wake up one day, accept Jesus, and then not deserve separation from our father. You still deserve separation. That's what grace is, the fact that you don't deserve to be with God, but He LOVED YOU enough to DIE FOR YOU so that you could be with Him. Yet so many people are taking this and act like they are righteous.

There is so much wrong with the world today, and not only is everyone taking their eyes off of Jesus to focus on the affairs of how well everyone else's moral performance is, of all things they choose one sin out of the possible thousands of others out there that you and I are probably committing every day and then pointing gays out to be the unrighteous.

There are adulterers, men who are married and have wives who absolutely love them and they go out and have sexual relations with other women on purpose. Men who shoot up schools.
Do you not see that even though you are JUST AS BAD as THOSE PEOPLE in the eyes of God, you choose to oppress one group of struggling people who cannot help but be under what Satan has done under sin. Yes, some people are born like that, and just because you can't possibly understand what it's like to struggle with that sin does not mean it's easy to deal with. They are committing suicide every day because of Christians who would rather make a sermon or forum thread about gay people condemning them, when they don't willingly choose to be the way that they are, as opposed to someone who chooses to shoot up a bunch of 7 year olds in a school.

I have seen about 20 discussions on homosexuality during my week on this forum, and not one about the people shooting up schools or men who cheat on others. There's no "MURDERERS" threads, or "ADULTERERS" threads, or "THIEVES" threads but countless ones about gay people.

Now I'm not telling you to go and take your eyes off of gay people and start judging murderers, because it's still the same concept. You and I are just as sinful as the guy who shot up the cinema - the difference between us and him is that we have been saved by Jesus Christ for our sins.

What I want to know is why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuals? It's a sin like any other sin, we sin every day. We're no better. We have Homosexual Christians, homosexual non-Christians.
You have Christians who think bad thoughts, and non-Christians who think bad thoughts. Sin is sin.
If you believe that Jesus died for you, you are made righteous by faith the same way that Abraham was.

So please tell me why Christians cannot seem to help themselves but continuously question and attack homosexuality in particular when we are just as bad as them in other areas of our lives?
Why can't we just accept that our beautiful, merciful Lord and Savior died for us, and focus on our relationship with Him and His almighty presence as opposed to spending all our time condemning others and monitoring their lives and actions?

[HR][/HR]

Romans 3:10
as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one;"​

[HR][/HR]

 

[T_Laurich]

I am not trying to speak against Christians. But to be honest I am speaking about humans... We all use the thought process of...

If a bear is chasing you, you don't have to be faster than the bear, just faster than the slowest person...

If we can make one sin more abominable then the ones we commit. We feel safe from His wrath... I do this all the time personally, I go 5 mph over the speed limit and say at least I am wearing a seat belt. Or at least I am not going 10 over...

Also look at the day and age we are living in. I know you say,

"Why can't we just accept that our beautiful, merciful Lord and Savior died for us, and focus on our relationship with Him and His almighty presence as opposed to spending all our time condemning others and monitoring their lives and actions?"

But let me put it this way, If you see a blind man about to cross a busy street, would you try to tell him or just make sure you didn't walk in too". We have to tell the man about the street...

 

[VictagaNOC94]

I see more threads on this site about homosexuals and debates about whether they're going to heaven or hell than discussions about how good, kind and merciful our Lord and Savior is.
I believe that God created man, and when sin came in, the devil perverted many things within humanity. Satan took the concept of Christ marrying His church, and the natural order that God had intended for man to function and twisted it into something else. He does this with all good things that God had created.

I want to make two statements, though.
a) Homosexuality is just as much of a sin as anything else.
b) Just because you are not attracted to the same sex, does not mean you know what the temptation feels like.

I'm not here to try and start a debate about whether it's wrong or right - because in the eyes of God it's wrong. Bang, there you have it. Nothing else needs to be said on that.
What I want to know is why are Christians so obsessed with condemning homosexuals?

To say that you are without sin, is to make Him out to be a liar. You are unrighteous, and ungodly, but you are made righteous by the blood of Christ. Sin is sin, God does not make a hierarchy of do's and don'ts. We have ALL fallen short of the glory of our Lord Jesus.
Can you remember the last time that you thought a bad thought about someone? The last time you had a lustful thought? What about the last time you cursed someone? Are you having a hard time forgiving someone?
GUESS WHAT. You are just as bad as a homosexual, I am just as bad as a homosexual.
I struggle, you struggle. I've probably sinned in 50 different ways today and I can't even recall it. I am so unrighteous and I deserve hell, you deserve hell, the pope deserves hell. I don't care who you are, you deserve the pit, no matter what you DO and no matter what you DON'T DO, you deserve no mercy.

I want to know why Christians are so damn obsessed with homosexuals. They will overlook their own greed, their own judgement and take the salvation that they did not earn and use it to tell a gay person that they're going to hell. Do you not realize that you deserve to go to hell?
You didn't wake up one day, accept Jesus, and then not deserve separation from our father. You still deserve separation. That's what grace is, the fact that you don't deserve to be with God, but He LOVED YOU enough to DIE FOR YOU so that you could be with Him. Yet so many people are taking this and act like they are righteous.

There is so much wrong with the world today, and not only is everyone taking their eyes off of Jesus to focus on the affairs of how well everyone else's moral performance is, of all things they choose one sin out of the possible thousands of others out there that you and I are probably committing every day and then pointing gays out to be the unrighteous.

There are adulterers, men who are married and have wives who absolutely love them and they go out and have sexual relations with other women on purpose. Men who shoot up schools.
Do you not see that even though you are JUST AS BAD as THOSE PEOPLE in the eyes of God, you choose to oppress one group of struggling people who cannot help but be under what Satan has done under sin. Yes, some people are born like that, and just because you can't possibly understand what it's like to struggle with that sin does not mean it's easy to deal with. They are committing suicide every day because of Christians who would rather make a sermon or forum thread about gay people condemning them, when they don't willingly choose to be the way that they are, as opposed to someone who chooses to shoot up a bunch of 7 year olds in a school.

I have seen about 20 discussions on homosexuality during my week on this forum, and not one about the people shooting up schools or men who cheat on others. There's no "MURDERERS" threads, or "ADULTERERS" threads, or "THIEVES" threads but countless ones about gay people.

Now I'm not telling you to go and take your eyes off of gay people and start judging murderers, because it's still the same concept. You and I are just as sinful as the guy who shot up the cinema - the difference between us and him is that we have been saved by Jesus Christ for our sins.

What I want to know is why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuals? It's a sin like any other sin, we sin every day. We're no better. We have Homosexual Christians, homosexual non-Christians.
You have Christians who think bad thoughts, and non-Christians who think bad thoughts. Sin is sin.
If you believe that Jesus died for you, you are made righteous by faith the same way that Abraham was.

So please tell me why Christians cannot seem to help themselves but continuously question and attack homosexuality in particular when we are just as bad as them in other areas of our lives?
Why can't we just accept that our beautiful, merciful Lord and Savior died for us, and focus on our relationship with Him and His almighty presence as opposed to spending all our time condemning others and monitoring their lives and actions?

[HR][/HR]

Romans 3:10
as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one;"​

[HR][/HR]

This made me cry! A very sensitive subject for me, as that is something I struggle with. I know what the bible says...I've read it. Does not change how I work. I am trying to change (if possible) but honestly with how some people act about it, it does not help a thing. It only makes things worse. NEVER did I actually CHOOSE to like other girls! Much to peoples disbelief....IT IS NOT A CHOICE!!!

 

[TracerBullet]

I see more threads on this site about homosexuals and debates about whether they're going to heaven or hell than discussions about how good, kind and merciful our Lord and Savior is.
I believe that God created man, and when sin came in, the devil perverted many things within humanity. Satan took the concept of Christ marrying His church, and the natural order that God had intended for man to function and twisted it into something else. He does this with all good things that God had created.

Are you suggesting that God isn’t in control?

I'm not here to try and start a debate about whether it's wrong or right - because in the eyes of God it's wrong. Bang, there you have it. Nothing else needs to be said on that.

And it was just a generation ago where people were declaringthat interracial marriage was wrong in the eyes of God. And that de-segregation was wrong in the eyesof God. And that racial equality waswrong in the eyes of God.

“I distrust those people who know so wellwhat God wants, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.”Susan B. Anthony

 

[JimJimmers]

I don't know why people are quick to condemn homosexuals. I have met many nice people on here who are into self harm, and I have never ONE TIME felt led to condemn them. They already want to be free from it, there's no need to pile on with condemnation. Same with people who want to be free from homosexuality. God doesn't love us for being perfect.

Now I must say, there are some folks who come here who don't want help, they only want us to justify their lifestyle. For such a person, there's not much we can do. No matter what we say shy of "You're fine, keep doing what you're doing", they accuse us of condemning them. This is not exclusive to homosexuals, of course. People involved in all different things do this.

 

[Ugly]

I didn't read that long post. But going by the title i would say that part of the focus on it is brought on by the homosexual community themselves. In the past years they have become very aggressive in forcing people to agree with them. Its not good enough to just agree to disagree with them. They take a stance where you picks sides. And your only options are 'support us or you're against us'. They don't allow people to say 'i don't agree with it, but i'm not your enemy either'. So it pushes the topic to the forefront of peoples minds, and somewhat forces them into taking sides, whether they want to or not.
The same thing has happened with Islam and Muslims. People, for the most part, didn't think about Muslims. But since 9/11 everyone is so interested in the topic. Its become a big focus. Not because they have changed, but the circumstances have changed. Its the nature of humanity and culture.

 

[IronChariots]

Homosexuality is mentioned in the old testament. But no one follows the old testament anymore
except for the homosexuality part. Go figure. You can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

 

[RedTent]

They are obsessed with homosexuality because God is obsessed with sex. In our spiritual world, in how God thinks and operates, we have many physical doings that reflect the spiritual. Bathing and washing ourselves reflect the forgiveness and cleansing ourselves of sin that Christ gives us. The family, both husband and wife and the extended family reflects the family of God.

We are to never make up a God to replace the true God, it is breaking a spiritual way of our world. It would cause a disruption in the spiritual world that reflects into our physical world.

Sex has deep spiritual meaning. We are not to mix God's creations in ways that God did not create them to be mixed. It isn't what happens in the physical world that is so important, but what it does in the spiritual realm that is hidden from us. When we are born in Christ, we have more sensitivity to that world, people outside have a hard time understanding it. We know that some fundamental spiritual law has been broken and it is serious. We know the world was created and is operated by God using the spiritual that reflects in our physical.

You can see what interfering with the physical ways the world operates often causes chaos. For instance when men bring a plant or animal from one environment to another and it becomes harmful to the environment. God has an order for His creation. Homosexuality is interfering with that order in a fundamental way.

 

[RedTent]

Homosexuality is mentioned in the old testament. But no one follows the old testament anymore
except for the homosexuality part. Go figure. You can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

You need to get with it, for how God is leading His family. They are waking up to how Christ didn't cancel the OT, but shows us how to use it to grow in Him.

 

[transient]

I see more threads on this site about homosexuals and debates about whether they're going to heaven or hell than discussions about how good, kind and merciful our Lord and Savior is....
[HR][/HR]

If you don't like us discussing homosexuality, you shouldn't have started another thread on it..

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Self- righteousness, simple as that. By making the sins of other seem "worse", they think they make their own look less bad.

 

[Nuns_n_roses]

I agree that it's sin. I see it from both points of view. It's difficult to tell someone "remain celibate for the rest of your life!" Most of the church will still hate you for who you're attracted to though. How many of us would handle that without being discouraged? This is why I believe I have a special calling to help individuals in this area.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Ok, so this is a thread about Christians making numerous threads about homosexuality. Obviously the OP feels there's too many threads on the subject where they refer to it as an "obsession". Yet this is another Thread about homosexuality.....anyone see the irony here?

I personally feel there's too many threads on homosexuality too. That's why I won't make a thread about it.

 

[TracerBullet]

I didn't read that long post. But going by the title i would say that part of the focus on it is brought on by the homosexual community themselves. In the past years they have become very aggressive in forcing people to agree with them. Its not good enough to just agree to disagree with them. They take a stance where you picks sides. And your only options are 'support us or you're against us'. They don't allow people to say 'i don't agree with it, but i'm not your enemy either'. So it pushes the topic to the forefront of peoples minds, and somewhat forces them into taking sides, whether they want to or not.
The same thing has happened with Islam and Muslims. People, for the most part, didn't think about Muslims. But since 9/11 everyone is so interested in the topic. Its become a big focus. Not because they have changed, but the circumstances have changed. Its the nature of humanity and culture.

there are timeswhen justice requires us to stop “agreeing to disagree”. Inaction andcomplacency can in themselves become forms of oppression.

The phrase“agree-to-disagree” implies that both positions (for and against) have merit–but in the case of civil rights, that just isn’t possible. A person’s right to oppress is simply not asvalid as the rights of those experiencing the oppression.

Let’s face it,Christianity is a privileged class in in this country and at many timesthroughout history (including today) Christianity have been guilty ofoppressing people whose humanity (as found in their religion or lack thereof,gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, etc.) they haven’t understood. And in every case, there has always been somefaction of people who said, “Those who wish to use scripture to marginalizeothers are entitled to their opinion.”

This iswrong. Those who use scripture tobelittle, marginalize or discriminate against other people are NOT entitled to do so. There isno merit in a position that minimizes a person’s worth based on his or hersexual orientation– even if he or she believes God has given him or her thedivine right to carry out such discrimination. “Agreeing to disagree” is notthe helpful or peaceful thing to do in a situation where discrimination is theproblem. The helpful and peaceful thing to do is to call discrimination what itis: Bigotry. Socially violent. Absolutely and totally wrong.

 

[TracerBullet]

They are obsessed with homosexuality because God is obsessed with sex. In our spiritual world, in how God thinks and operates, we have many physical doings that reflect the spiritual. Bathing and washing ourselves reflect the forgiveness and cleansing ourselves of sin that Christ gives us. The family, both husband and wife and the extended family reflects the family of God.

We are to never make up a God to replace the true God, it is breaking a spiritual way of our world. It would cause a disruption in the spiritual world that reflects into our physical world.

Sex has deep spiritual meaning. We are not to mix God's creations in ways that God did not create them to be mixed. It isn't what happens in the physical world that is so important, but what it does in the spiritual realm that is hidden from us. When we are born in Christ, we have more sensitivity to that world, people outside have a hard time understanding it. We know that some fundamental spiritual law has been broken and it is serious. We know the world was created and is operated by God using the spiritual that reflects in our physical.

You can see what interfering with the physical ways the world operates often causes chaos. For instance when men bring a plant or animal from one environment to another and it becomes harmful to the environment. God has an order for His creation. Homosexuality is interfering with that order in a fundamental way.

How?
How is itharmful?
How is it interfering?

 

[RedTent]

How?
How is itharmful?
How is it interfering?

Only God can answer that question, God is the one who created us and set the entire thing up. I don't understand it all and you don't either. I just listen through scripture and the Holy Spirit and do the best I can.

God gave definite instructions to us about it. When God created Adam he used part of him to make a female. I don't understand that, either, but God did. Their coming together through sex is part of how God has our world run, it makes families through the uniting that sex is a symbol of. That uniting is not to be done except to get the male and female together again. In scripture it often talks about not uniting things that shouldn't be united. In the book of Daniel it talks of iron and clay being united in the last days and it is a forerunner of the earth needing to be destroyed. Going against God's instructions can be very serious.

Our physical world is connected to the spiritual world. I got that from reading God's scripture and following how God's instructions to us are to be done physically often, and God often explains how that represents the spiritual.

So I personally, have absolutely no answers, but I've studied God's answers and I am just reporting what I've learned of them.

 

[RedTent]

Self- righteousness, simple as that. By making the sins of other seem "worse", they think they make their own look less bad.

That is not fair! Accusing people who think this is serious of thinking that because they are self-righteous. This is a serious threat in our world today, it is growing fast, and the people who talk about it are only doing it for a personal view of themselves and because of how the world sees them personally? That is going Way out there.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Hello
I have come to realize that to be truthful,i might be what the world calls homophobic.Wheather i commit a big sin or a little sin
its still a sin.I realize that if a person is homosexual,they are sinning and if i have a friend thats fornicating and the world thinks he's a player,that is just as bad.
Forgive me

 

[IronChariots]

The verses in the Bible about homosexuality were mistranslated and have been misinterpreted.

Would Jesus Discriminate? - Israel's Holiness Code. (Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13)
Would Jesus Discriminate? - What was the sin of Sodom? (Genesis 19 and Jude 7)
Would Jesus Discriminate? - No fems? No fairies? (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10)

 

[Donkeyfish07]

A lot of it is just the way society is heading when it comes to homosexuality......like the courtcase about the 6 year old "transgendered" child's right to use the ladies room (even though he has male parts)......Parents are upset that their kids have to spend time in environments like that and also all the pro-gay and it's ok to be gay indoctrination that is becoming part of school curriculum. I think a lot of people feel like acceptance of it is being forced on them and no one seems to respect their rights to disagree with it (If people have the right to be for homosexual behavior, why should that mean people don't have the right to be against the behavior?)....I think those are valid issues.

On the other end, there are those that are just going around with cold hearts judging people in a way we aren't meant to be doing. World's messed up and Christians aren't perfect just because they're Christians. I know I'm not