Why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuality?

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Exoaria

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Open support for ANY form of sin is Biblically UNACCEPTABLE. To say anything otherwise is an outright LIE and a deliberate ATTACK on GOD'S sovereignty.

True Christians are soldiers and we are at WAR with false teachers. We MUST be spiritually militant and defensive of the TRUTH, attacking errors and falsities wherever they are to be found.

The Scriptures aren't called the "Sword of Truth" for a soft "loving" reason. Since when did it become ok to be softhearted when confronting error? Was Christ ever soft when confronting the Pheresies and false religious leaders? No, He pierced them with the truth so hard they couldn't even respond. I don't think He would say to a homosexual "it's ok to live in sin as long as you're a good person". BLASPHEMY! A TRUE child of Christ does not openly support living in sin, under ANY circumstance. Beware of the wolves in wheels clothes, pushing for advocacy of support for homosexuality and sin of any kind.
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The pharisees weren't people living in a form of sin... they were the people who claimed to not being in sin. What did Jesus do with the people who did live in sin? He ate at their house, loved them, showed them mercy.
I don't support sin, because I am a sinner. But sin will have no dominion over me, and as I focus on Jesus I become occupied with His love and grace. Sin is just less attractive the more I see Him, and He lifts me up into His arms. Doesn't mean I won't sin, but Holiness is just more and more what I want and I find that by the time I've gotten so wrapped up in His love and mercy I don't even want to sin anymore.

Anyway, brother, I don't want to argue with you and it's not my place to speak against you. I just hope that when you read Romans, Hebrews and Galatians that you can begin to see more love. I hope that you find peace and comfort in the Word and the Holy Spirit. :)

Bless you friend.
 
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You are right jimmy. The sin is being allowed in the churches and even in pulpits. Which is where the root of the problem is. Much like peter in the garden the church is asleep. So unconcerned about the condition it is in. Sin is sin. Always has been and always will be. But the church sleeps on
 
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I hear a rattlesnake.
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Well in case you get bit you can follow this advice.

Numbers 21:8
The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.”
 
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Why go back to that when it was plainly said in Leviticus?
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Leviticus also plainly says that eating shellfish is anabomination, that killing bratty children is OK, the handicapped should not be permitted in church, it’s an abomination to wear clothes made of poly cotton blends and that God likes blood sacrifices.
 
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Exoaria said:
Second of all, I agree with Ugly. I do not agree with gay marriage, but even if I were not a Christian I would not agree with gay marriage. Not because I want them to have less rights, but it's more to do with the psychological order of a child's mind. Marriage would enable gay couples to adopt children,
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gays can already adopt children

and I just feel that they would grow up with so much teasing and confusion.
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So gays and lesbians should be denied rights and children should be denied a home and loving parents because other peoplehave problems?


There is also the side of things where marriage is a Christian concept, and it just kind of seems weird that they should want to take part in a ritual formed on the basis of religion, which oppresses them. It's like a Jew trying to become a Nazi. Now the part where I agree with Ugly is that I cannot have this opinion without being labelled and called a homophobe and someone that hates homosexuals. That does answer a lot of my question, because it's not only a rising dilemma for Christians but also for non-Christians as well.
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Marriage isn’t a Christian concept. Marriage occurs in all societies and longpredates the advent of Christianity.
 
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TracerBullet said:
Leviticus also plainly says that eating shellfish is anabomination, that killing bratty children is OK, the handicapped should not be permitted in church, it’s an abomination to wear clothes made of poly cotton blends and that God likes blood sacrifices.
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You've given that same argument before. It was also explained to you by multiple people. Yet you refuse to accept and understand what the passages mean and if it applies to us today.
Refusing to accept the truth doesn't justify you or anyone else. Never has never will.

Looks to me that you don't care what scripture says. You try your best to twist scripture and misinterpret it because in your mind you feel like you're winning something.
 
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If ya'll read, study, pray, and believe the Living Word of God; these things and more would become clearer than this mud being sloshed about.

What the Great Lord has revealed to me is that He is loving and merciful but also just. Also, that He is the Supreme One and makes the rules. Whether we like it or not.
Yes, in Lev. He outlines that most things to eat and do and have happen are not ok and then in the NT made a way for a good amount of those things ok. HOWEVER, He has been consistent in saying that homosexuality and other sexual sins are WRONG and have no place in His kingdom. That is not to say that a lustful person cannot be save from his bonds of sin.

Keeping this in mind, fellow children of God, our job, our duty, is to love God with all that we are, this includes our actions. worshiping Him continually, without fail; being obedient with complete trust and faith in Jesus. Following and intertwined with that, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." In doing so with joy, we show that living for Jesus is far better than living in sin. But, as is the bane of Satan, this includes loving the sin-sick enough to tell them that they are going to DIE without Christ.
 
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Elizabeth619 said:
You've given that same argument before. It was also explained to you by multiple people. Yet you refuse to accept and understand what the passages mean and if it applies to us today.
Refusing to accept the truth doesn't justify you or anyone else. Never has never will.

Looks to me that you don't care what scripture says. You try your best to twist scripture and misinterpret it because in your mind you feel like you're winning something.
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The only scripture twisting going on is the picking andchoosing just what OT laws to ignore and what ones to use when attacking others
 
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If ya'll read, study, pray, and believe the Living Word of God; these things and more would become clearer than this mud being sloshed about.

What the Great Lord has revealed to me is that He is loving and merciful but also just. Also, that He is the Supreme One and makes the rules. Whether we like it or not.
Yes, in Lev. He outlines that most things to eat and do and have happen are not ok and then in the NT made a way for a good amount of those things ok. HOWEVER, He has been consistent in saying that homosexuality and other sexual sins are WRONG and have no place in His kingdom. That is not to say that a lustful person cannot be save from his bonds of sin.

Keeping this in mind, fellow children of God, our job, our duty, is to love God with all that we are, this includes our actions. worshiping Him continually, without fail; being obedient with complete trust and faith in Jesus. Following and intertwined with that, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." In doing so with joy, we show that living for Jesus is far better than living in sin. But, as is the bane of Satan, this includes loving the sin-sick enough to tell them that they are going to DIE without Christ.
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“I distrust those people who know so well what God wants, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.” -Susan B. Anthony
 
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Elizabeth619 said:
You've given that same argument before. It was also explained to you by multiple people. Yet you refuse to accept and understand what the passages mean and if it applies to us today.
Refusing to accept the truth doesn't justify you or anyone else. Never has never will.

Looks to me that you don't care what scripture says. You try your best to twist scripture and misinterpret it because in your mind you feel like you're winning something.
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Please explain again why the other laws of the OT don't count but the ones pertaining to homosexuality are still valid.

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19)

"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17)

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17)

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17)

“...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
 
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Uhhh... It would have been a lot more meaningful if all those threads in your image were about homosexuality.
 
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MidniteWelder

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IronChariots said:
Please explain again why the other laws of the OT don't count but the ones pertaining to homosexuality are still valid.

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19)


“...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35
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Because its not just in the OT but in the NT as well.
One should read their bible more before trying to condemn God merely to justify their own sin to make themselves feel better thinking they have escaped any responsibility or answering to God for it, either now......or later on judgement day if they dont repent now and go and sin no more.
1 Cor 6:9
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men.

This includes ALLLLLL sexual immorality not limited to but also including homosexuals.
This includes bestiality, incest, and even sex before marriage which is fornication due to giving in to the flesh when one must be crucified to the flesh to live in Christ

 
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They have perverted their ways and have forgotten the LORD their God. (Jeremiah 3:21)

Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, with a continual lust for more. (Ephesians 4:19)

I am afraid that when I come again my God will humble me before you, and I will be grieved over many who have sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual sin and debauchery in which they have indulged. (2 Corinthians 12-21)

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. (Ephesians 5:11-12)

Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you. (James 1:21)

Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 1:7)

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. (Romans 1:24)

Since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. (Romans 1:28)

Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. (Romans 6:13)

Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? (Romans 6:16)

Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. (Romans 6:19)

Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. (Romans 13:13)

Etc... etc... etc...

Homosexuality is condemned by God. Such actions are referred to as “detesta­ble” in scripture and the people who engage in them as “wicked.” The apostle Paul states that men who commit such indecent acts “re­ceived in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” Most importantly, homosexual behavior, if willful and unrepentant, may seriously call into question one’s eternal salvation.”

Homosexual "evangelists" like Tracerbullet aren't interested in what God's Word says about the sins and transgressions they choose to align themselves with but rather how they might distort and pervert God's Word to justify those sins and transgressions.

I believe the mods are amiss in enabling them to continue to spread misinformation and distort and pervert God's Word here after they have been soundly rebuked and refuted time after time after time again.
 
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"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion." -Proberbs 18:2 ESV

Elizabeth619 said:
You've given that same argument before. It was also explained to you by multiple people. Yet you refuse to accept and understand what the passages mean and if it applies to us today.
Refusing to accept the truth doesn't justify you or anyone else. Never has never will.

Looks to me that you don't care what scripture says. You try your best to twist scripture and misinterpret it because in your mind you feel like you're winning something.
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Because its not just in the OT but in the NT as well.
One should read their bible more before trying to condemn God merely to justify their own sin to make themselves feel better thinking they have escaped any responsibility or answering to God for it, either now......or later on judgement day if they dont repent now and go and sin no more.
1 Cor 6:9
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men.

This includes ALLLLLL sexual immorality not limited to but also including homosexuals.
This includes bestiality, incest, and even sex before marriage which is fornication due to giving in to the flesh when one must be crucified to the flesh to live in Christ
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Did you read this?
Would Jesus Discriminate? - No fems? No fairies? (1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:10)
 
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MidniteWelder said:
Because its not just in the OT but in the NT as well.
One should read their bible more before trying to condemn God merely to justify their own sin to make themselves feel better thinking they have escaped any responsibility or answering to God for it, either now......or later on judgement day if they dont repent now and go and sin no more.
1 Cor 6:9
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men.

This includes ALLLLLL sexual immorality not limited to but also including homosexuals.
This includes bestiality, incest, and even sex before marriage which is fornication due to giving in to the flesh when one must be crucified to the flesh to live in Christ
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And this doesn't answer why the other OT laws don't count anymore.
Refer to the scripture in post #51
 
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